Amaral and the dogs

[mercury]

I have no problem with Keela, alhough there is always the possiblity that she could have been mistaken by confusing smells very similar to what she was trained for.

Ridicuous assertion that Keela alerts to sweat or skin cells

[Mr Gray]

It's obvious how useful dogs can be in all sorts of roles. The alerts must worry some people a lot if they go to such lengths to try to discredit them. I'm sure that if there were lots of cases where the police used dogs and they alerted wrongly there would either be a massive retraining effort or they would stop using them. They bring them into so many situations that it's obvious how much faith police forces and others have in these dogs being able to help.

I am not worried about the dog's alerts as eddie's so called cadaver alerts were not confirmed.
I don't go to any lengths to discredit the dog's but I go to great lengths to expose the myths re the dog's because I am interested in the truth. I accept everything that Grime said about the alerts ...they are not evidence of a cadaver being in 5A and certainly amaral was woefully off the mark...a complete duffer...when he claimed he could prove Maddie died in 5A based on the dog's alerts

[Alfred R Jones]

No, Alfred. You may be 'so over the dog alerts', but others aren't. You can't decide what is or is not relevant, you're not in charge. If people wish to discuss Amaral and the dogs they can do so for lots more years yet. 

You claimed some of us (meaning McCann supporters I suppose) were ever so worried about the dog alerts.  I don't think discussing them is the same as being worried about them.  You may choose to infer that we're in a permanent angst-ridden fret about the dog alerts if it makes you happy, but I think you'll find you are wrong.

[Mr Gray]

Its not your position as a layman to make any claim

tell me what proof there is that eddie has never given a false alert

[Mr Gray]

It's beyond ridiculous when you consider what a fabulous job these dogs do. They're so useful when tragedies happen;

Staffordshire Police's search teams, which includes a specialist police cadaver dog, found two bodies this afternoon.

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As I have said before...the dogs are only of any use if they find evidence...if they do not find evidence...they are of no use... I would class 2 bodies as evidence

[G-Unit]

Where is it stated that she alerted to spots on the wall? If they had been blood, surely it would have been noted that she had done so?

I have no problem with Keela, alhough there is always the possiblity that she could have been mistaken by confusing smells very similar to what she was trained for.

She was trained for human blood and alerted in several places. Apparently in such microscopic quantities that the traces couldn't be determined as such, let alone any conclusive DNA within it.

The living-room wall doesn't appear to have been one such location... so why do some people keep banging on about "blood spatters" on the the wall?

who's banging on about the walls?

[pathfinder73]

I am not worried about the dog's alerts as eddie's so called cadaver alerts were not confirmed.
I don't go to any lengths to discredit the dog's but I go to great lengths to expose the myths re the dog's because I am interested in the truth. I accept everything that Grime said about the alerts ...they are not evidence of a cadaver being in 5A and certainly amaral was woefully off the mark...a complete duffer...when he claimed he could prove Maddie died in 5A based on the dog's alerts

Ignorance is bliss. SY are searching for a body because of those pesky dogs.

[G-Unit]

As I have said before...the dogs are only of any use if they find evidence...if they do not find evidence...they are of no use... I would class 2 bodies as evidence

what if someone had nipped in and taken the bodies away? The dog would still have alerted and it would have been right. That's why you can't write dog alerts off and forget all about them.

[stephen25000]

I am not worried about the dog's alerts as eddie's so called cadaver alerts were not confirmed.
I don't go to any lengths to discredit the dog's but I go to great lengths to expose the myths re the dog's because I am interested in the truth. I accept everything that Grime said about the alerts ...they are not evidence of a cadaver being in 5A and certainly amaral was woefully off the mark...a complete duffer...when he claimed he could prove Maddie died in 5A based on the dog's alerts

There is nothing else in this case.

[Mr Gray]

There is nothing else in this case.

Then there's nothing to incriminate the  mccanns .... Must be why they are not suspects

[G-Unit]

You claimed some of us (meaning McCann supporters I suppose) were ever so worried about the dog alerts.  I don't think discussing them is the same as being worried about them.  You may choose to infer that we're in a permanent angst-ridden fret about the dog alerts if it makes you happy, but I think you'll find you are wrong.

Discussion is fine Alfred. I was referring to ridiculous assertions that the dogs alerted to such things as sweat. That to me is scraping the ground under the barrel.

[stephen25000]

Then there's nothing to incriminate the  mccanns .... Must be why they are not suspects

With the crime still unknown.

Mmm.

[Alfred R Jones]

Discussion is fine Alfred. I was referring to ridiculous assertions that the dogs alerted to such things as sweat. That to me is scraping the ground under the barrel.

Do you know for certain what caused Eddie and Keela to alert?  Would you stake your life on it?

[Alice Purjorick]

Do you know for certain what caused Eddie and Keela to alert?  Would you stake your life on it?

Turn that one on it's head Alf for a reality check  *&*%£

[stephen25000]

Do you know for certain what caused Eddie and Keela to alert?  Would you stake your life on it?

Why don't you take gerry mccanns advice to Sandra ?