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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Amaral and the dogs
« Reply #2085 on: August 12, 2015, 07:55:22 AM »
The dogs alerted, that is evidence.

Now if the dogs hadn't alerted............................... 8)--))

the alerts have no evidential value according to Grime...but of course you know better

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Amaral and the dogs
« Reply #2086 on: August 12, 2015, 07:59:59 AM »
The dogs alerted, that is evidence.

Now if the dogs hadn't alerted............................... 8)--))

the dog's alerts are not evidence.
All your beliefs and those of others on this forum are based on lies...it really is a waste of time having any sort of debate when you believe lies

stephen25000

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Re: Amaral and the dogs
« Reply #2087 on: August 12, 2015, 08:00:26 AM »
the alerts have no evidential value according to Grime...but of course you know better

Can you read what I have said again this morning ?

It would really help.

Perhaps you should keep a 'log' of the posts.  8)--)) 8)--)) 8)-)))

stephen25000

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Re: Amaral and the dogs
« Reply #2088 on: August 12, 2015, 08:01:50 AM »
the dog's alerts are not evidence.
All your beliefs and those of others on this forum are based on lies...it really is a waste of time having any sort of debate when you believe lies

Rubbish as usual.

Also , your repeated mistakes in basic science and maths, show what your posts are worth. 8)-)))

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Amaral and the dogs
« Reply #2089 on: August 12, 2015, 08:04:32 AM »
Rubbish as usual.

Also , your repeated mistakes in basic science and maths, show what your posts are worth. 8)-)))

the dog's alerts are not evidence.
All your beliefs and those of others on this forum are based on lies...it really is a waste of time having any sort of debate when you believe lies

stephen25000

  • Guest
Re: Amaral and the dogs
« Reply #2090 on: August 12, 2015, 08:06:59 AM »
the dog's alerts are not evidence.
All your beliefs and those of others on this forum are based on lies...it really is a waste of time having any sort of debate when you believe lies

It is well known where the lies originate.

EXACTLY WHERE THEY ORIGINATE. 8(0(*

Offline Jean-Pierre

Re: Amaral and the dogs
« Reply #2091 on: August 12, 2015, 08:07:38 AM »
"He was questioned as a witness in a missing person case, a status that changed when sniffer dogs indicated that a body had been in Pacteau's car."

http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/he-robbed-us-of-our-beautiful-daughter-and-sister-buckley-family-issue-statement-690536.html

Are you saying that his status changed simply because the sniffer dogs indicated that body had been in Pacteau's car, Stephen? And that the change of status rested entirely on a sniffer dog alert?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Amaral and the dogs
« Reply #2092 on: August 12, 2015, 08:09:17 AM »
It is well known where the lies originate.

EXACTLY WHERE THEY ORIGINATE. 8(0(*

the dogs alerts are not evidence...your claim is totally false....you cannot even get the basics right..
when you have been caught out you then try and deflect

stephen25000

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Re: Amaral and the dogs
« Reply #2093 on: August 12, 2015, 08:14:07 AM »
the dogs alerts are not evidence...your claim is totally false....you cannot even get the basics right..
when you have been caught out you then try and deflect

Let's make this simple for you.

The dogs alerted. FACT.

Forensics were inconclusive. FACT.

So either the dogs alerted to a body or they didn't.  FACT.

 8(0(*

and dogs are RELIABLE, VERY RELIABLE.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Amaral and the dogs
« Reply #2094 on: August 12, 2015, 08:16:31 AM »
Let's make this simple for you.

The dogs alerted. FACT.

Forensics were inconclusive. FACT.

So either the dogs alerted to a body or they didn't.  FACT.

 8(0(*

and dogs are RELIABLE, VERY RELIABLE.

Alerts are not evidence.....fact...which is what you stated ..fact...you are 100% wrong...fact

stephen25000

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Re: Amaral and the dogs
« Reply #2095 on: August 12, 2015, 08:17:58 AM »
Alerts are not evidence.....fact...which is what you stated ..fact...you are 100% wrong...fact

They are circumstantial evidence.

I know what the laws of probability dictate in these circumstances.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Amaral and the dogs
« Reply #2096 on: August 12, 2015, 08:22:53 AM »
They are circumstantial evidence.

I know what the laws of probability dictate in these circumstances.

they are not evidence...fact...and are not admissible in uk or Portuguese courts as circumstantial evidence ...fact...you are 100% wrong...fact

You do not have a clue what the laws of probability state in this instance...fact...as you do not have enough information..fact

stephen25000

  • Guest
Re: Amaral and the dogs
« Reply #2097 on: August 12, 2015, 08:26:47 AM »
they are not evidence...fact...and are not admissible in uk or Portuguese courts as circumstantial evidence ...fact...you are 100% wrong...fact

You do not have a clue what the laws of probability state in this instance...fact...as you do not have enough information..fact


The alerts are circumstantial evidence.

You can't get away from that.

Hence why you, other 'supporters' and the mccanns, as the trial revealed, are still worried about the alerts.

and as far as the dogs are concerned, and the mccanns 'story', peoples minds are made up as to what really happened.
« Last Edit: August 12, 2015, 08:33:59 AM by Eleanor »

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Amaral and the dogs
« Reply #2098 on: August 12, 2015, 08:33:04 AM »


The alerts are circumstantial evidence.

You can't get away from that.

Hence why you, other 'supporters' and the mccanns, as the trial revealed, are still worried about the alerts.

and as far as the dogs are concerned, and the mccanns 'story', peoples minds are made up as to what really happened.



alerts...NO evidential value...do you understand the word NO...that's what both Grime and Harrison said and they are the experts.

you are 100% wrong...fact
« Last Edit: August 12, 2015, 08:34:17 AM by Eleanor »

Offline Jean-Pierre

Re: Amaral and the dogs
« Reply #2099 on: August 12, 2015, 08:33:15 AM »


The alerts are circumstantial evidence.

You can't get away from that.

Hence why you, other 'supporters' and the mccanns, as the trial revealed, are still worried about the alerts.

and as far as the dogs are concerned, and the mccanns 'story', peoples minds are made up as to what really happened.

Very revealing that you need to resort to insults in order to make your case.

The dogs have no more evidential value than any other form of search technique.  It is only the results of forensic analysis that has any evidential value whatever.  I know this is somewhat inconvenient to your argument, but it is the precise legal position.   
« Last Edit: August 12, 2015, 08:34:39 AM by Eleanor »