Amaral and the dogs

[Mr Gray]

I'm afraid to say he wasn't proven wrong or right.

However, unlike what gerry mccann said, dogs are reliable.

and in that smarmy smug comment to Sandra Felgueiras , he was talking out of his derriere.

he is proven wrong by your own statement...amaral claimed he could prove maddie died in the apartment...he cannot prove such...he is 100% wrong

[mercury]

try posting on the correct thread

Correct thread despite your despotism

[mercury]

You just quoted from the wrong place.[/list]

Nope. Your post makes no sense. Grime categorically stated 200 case searches, now if yu want to continue calling him a fraud, its your prerogative

[stephen25000]

he is proven wrong by your own statement...amaral claimed he could prove maddie died in the apartment...he cannot prove such...he is 100% wrong

Can you say she didn't die in the apartment ?

Criminal cases rarely provide all the direct evidence needed to solve a crime, as with this case.

[mercury]

Grime stated.."it is possible " that the alert was to cadaverine contaminant....that means it may not have been ...that means it is not reliable...Grime used the words no evidential "reliability"....that is questioning the "reliability" of the alerts

No. He is not questionng the reliability of the alerts. Its that simple.

[Mr Gray]

the problem here is you can have 100 threads discussing something and there is no resolution/arbiter of truth....how to solve this??

try posting on topic...the title of this thread is amaral and the dogs...was amaral right to say he could prove maddie died in the apartment...no he wasn't

[Mr Gray]

No. He is not questionng the reliability of the alerts. Its that simple.

If the alerts are reliable the why is he saying it is"POSSIBLE"  that the alerts are to cadaver...if the alerts were reliable it would definitely signal cadaver

[Mr Gray]

So when you are losing an argument you pretend to be a moderator, 2/10 for comedy value

and when you have lost the argument you pretend you haven't and resort to insults as you did tonight

[Brietta]

Very true. I was merely pointing out the Topic of this thread 'Amaral and the dogs'

From the link you provided, Anna:-

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=3566.msg136059#msg136059

How sad ... the plaque on the oak tree would have alerted them why Eddie had alerted there.  But if there had been no plaque or anyone who knew the history ... no-one would have ever known what it was Eddie was alerting to.

Just as no-one can tell what he was alerting to in 5A master bedroom ... which is why it has no evidential value.

[mercury]

Do you really rate that? 

I'd rate a policeman on the job more than a stranger on the internet

[Mr Gray]

From the link you provided, Anna:-

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=3566.msg136059#msg136059

How sad ... the plaque on the oak tree would have alerted them why Eddie had alerted there.  But if there had been no plaque or anyone who knew the history ... no-one would have ever known what it was Eddie was alerting to.

Just as no-one can tell what he was alerting to in 5A master bedroom ... which is why it has no evidential value.

no evidential value or reliability...but some try to pretend they do

[mercury]

oh dear...you are a million per cent wrong...how embarrassing for you...could you supply a cite for this statement...you will not be able to

not embarrassed at all, why would I be

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_GRIMES.htm

scroll down to SUMMARY


cadaver scent contaminant

[Anna]

But those were NOT his only words, his CONCLUSION was that "in his professional opinion" the dog was alerting to cadaverscent contaminant. ie he was sure he was

My professional opinion as regards to the EVRD's alert indications is that it is
suggestive that this is 'cadaver scent' contaminant. This does not however
suggest a motive or suspect as cross contamination could be as a result of a
number of given scenarios and in any event no evidential or intelligence
reliability can be made from these alerts unless they can be confirmed with
corroborating evidence.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_GRIMES.htm

[mercury]

Do you have a cite for this comment, please

summary

[Mr Gray]

summary

I'm sure you now realise you were wrong