Amaral and the dogs

[sadie]

Found one or two which are really all about Madeleine ... what a shame there are individuals about who feel duty bound to append nasty comments to each and every one.

       

That is lovely.   There are still loads of kind people around, pity about the others.

Thank you for posting it Brietta. 8((()*/

[Mr Gray]

I don't quite follow your logic.
Mr Grime gave an opinion on the alerts. He was the "expert" called in. How does some gash hand effing about with videos diminish Mr Grime's opinion?
Or are you trying to say Mr Grime took in the dogs then relied on an edited version of the video to draw his conclusions?
 *&*%£
cue another 187 pages.

The logic is easy to follow...there is a statement in the files by a PJ officer who was very unimpressed with the dog alerts. He states that rather than simply alerting to items as the video shows the dog on most occasions completely ignored the target several times before eventually alerting...that's what's important..

Thw fact that the videos have been edited to misrepresent the alerts is secondary but still important

[Brietta]

Agreed, but that doesn't get to the bottom of who edited them.

For the PJ, the dog inspections were their "smoking gun". Unedited footage would have reduced the impact. It makes sense to me that the PJ went through it all, eliminating whatever didn't support the PJ case against the McCanns.

That sounds like a logical deduction ... particularly as we know both arguidos were shown the dogs allegedly 'alerting' to cadaver scent.
Sitting through hours of meaningless drivel would certainly have lessened the impact and wouldn't have had the shock value of being shown alleged temporary deposition sites for the remains of your dearly loved eldest.

A tactic designed I think to tip a distraught mother over the edge.

The chain of evidence has certainly had a few links removed from it ... and it is an interesting thought as to who exactly did the original edit on behalf of the PJ.

[Alice Purjorick]

The logic is easy to follow...there is a statement in the files by a PJ officer who was very unimpressed with the dog alerts. He states that rather than simply alerting to items as the video shows the dog on most occasions completely ignored the target several times before eventually alerting...that's what's important..

Thw fact that the videos have been edited to misrepresent the alerts is secondary but still important

This is waht you said first time around in repsonse to Mercury:
You have missed the point here....This thread has just discovered something that has not been discussed before...the fact that the videos of the dogs have been heavily edited showing the alerts to be of even less use than we thought.

No mention of policemen there is there?

[Carana]

The logic is easy to follow...there is a statement in the files by a PJ officer who was very unimpressed with the dog alerts. He states that rather than simply alerting to items as the video shows the dog on most occasions completely ignored the target several times before eventually alerting...that's what's important..

Thw fact that the videos have been edited to misrepresent the alerts is secondary but still important

Inspector Dias may well have waded through the entire footage and not just the edited versions that got leaked.

[Mr Gray]

This is waht you said first time around in repsonse to Mercury:
You have missed the point here....This thread has just discovered something that has not been discussed before...the fact that the videos of the dogs have been heavily edited showing the alerts to be of even less use than we thought.

No mention of policemen there is there?

Context...... You need to read the posts preceding that post.. I can't keep repeating all the details in every post

[Carana]

That sounds like a logical deduction ... particularly as we know both arguidos were shown the dogs allegedly 'alerting' to cadaver scent.
Sitting through hours of meaningless drivel would certainly have lessened the impact and wouldn't have had the shock value of being shown alleged temporary deposition sites for the remains of your dearly loved eldest.

A tactic designed I think to tip a distraught mother over the edge.

The chain of evidence has certainly had a few links removed from it ... and it is an interesting thought as to who exactly did the original edit on behalf of the PJ.

I expect that team Amaral sat down with the footage and got someone with a bit of technical know-how to push the buttons to transfer selected sequences onto a new tape. Not rocket science, as you've said.

[stephen25000]

The logic is easy to follow...there is a statement in the files by a PJ officer who was very unimpressed with the dog alerts. He states that rather than simply alerting to items as the video shows the dog on most occasions completely ignored the target several times before eventually alerting...that's what's important..

Thw fact that the videos have been edited to misrepresent the alerts is secondary but still important

So what expertise did this PJ officer have in the field of alerts by dogs ?

and if you had observed what dogs do during searching, ignoring targets is not exactly unusual before alerting.

Just like the PJ 'officer', you and and a few others, need a bit more insight before you make judgements, clearly bent by your support of the mccanns.

[Mr Gray]

So what expertise did this PJ officer have in the field of alerts by dogs ?

and if you had observed what dogs do during searching, ignoring targets is not exactly unusual before alerting.

Just like the PJ 'officer', you and and a few others, need a bit more insight before you make judgements, clearly bent by your support of the mccanns.

could you tell us what you base this statement on..it looks like something you have just made up...It is obviously total BS....The dogs are used to screen large areas...are you telling me they go over the same large areaseveral times..absolute BS

[Mr Gray]

Indeed he did say something like "no evidential value unless backed up by forensic science" which is a nice academic point as there has been no court case.
What really counts is what is written in the archiving report. It remaining the ruling document and all.

it is not academic......there has been a court case online for the last 8 years

[Alice Purjorick]

it is not academic......there has been a court case online for the last 8 years

Under which court's jurisdiction?

[Mr Gray]

Under which court's jurisdiction?

The Public's

[Mr Gray]

As regards the editing of the vide...a video used as evidence.....  as this video has been used online...should never be edited. The same rule does not apply to a video recorded for entertainment.

[Mr Gray]

The crowned master of BS is well known on here.  %£&)**#

Take some time out of your busy schedule on here  *&*%£ and watch dogs  in the field. 

with respect Stephen the abundance of emojis in your post do not make up for the complete lack of substance

[Anna]

Topic please and watch the insults.