Amaral and the dogs

[Mr Gray]

It is the compound present in the samples they were trained on.

There are several analytical techniques available for those compounds to be identified, qualitatively and quantitatively.

The research could also help with the training of ‘human remains detection canines’. ‘We know very little about what compounds or combinations of compounds are recognised by sniffer dogs,’ says  Williams.

http://www.rsc.org/chemistryworld/2014/06/smell-death-cadaver-body-decay

[ferryman]

You can read all about it here, including search warrants requested, granted and the reasons;

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/DOGS_INSPECTION.htm

So it was Carlos who requested permission to search the villa, based on Harrison's report, but not his recommendation.

And still no mention of the inspection in the gym.

Why is that?

[Alfred R Jones]

I said it appeared facetious to me and to others because it was so obvious to us that it was absurd.

What, specifically, do you find absurd?  The fact that dogs may falsely alert for a variety of reasons?  Why do you find that absurd when there is ample evidence to suggest that dogs DO give false positives?

[stephen25000]

The research could also help with the training of ‘human remains detection canines’. ‘We know very little about what compounds or combinations of compounds are recognised by sniffer dogs,’ says  Williams.

http://www.rsc.org/chemistryworld/2014/06/smell-death-cadaver-body-decay

From the same article.

' ‘Several groups are working on e-noses at the moment,’ Focant says, ‘but we are not sure if this technology will ever make sniffer dogs obsolete.’

Bar haemoglobin and certain other proteins present in transgenic pigs used to produce 'human' haemoglobin, there be differences in the amino acid sequences resulting from protein hydrolysis after death,as well as the residues from the decomposition of other organic compounds from a body.

Now I believe it has been established that blood samples that have been obtained were from human sources, so any reference to the pigs or 'fertilizer' is essentially a red herring, unless proven otherwise.

[Lace]

From the same article.

' ‘Several groups are working on e-noses at the moment,’ Focant says, ‘but we are not sure if this technology will ever make sniffer dogs obsolete.’

Bar haemoglobin and certain other proteins present in transgenic pigs used to produce 'human' haemoglobin, there be differences in the amino acid sequences resulting from protein hydrolysis after death,as well as the residues from the decomposition of other organic compounds from a body.

Now I believe it has been established that blood samples that have been obtained were from human sources, so any reference to the pigs or 'fertilizer' is essentially a red herring, unless proven otherwise.

I don't think you understand my reference to fertiliser Stephen,   if the blood in the Fertiliser is pig then Eddie would alert to it,  so not a red herring as Eddie was trained using Pig meat at first.

[stephen25000]

I don't think you understand my reference to fertiliser Stephen,   if the blood in the Fertiliser is pig then Eddie would alert to it,  so not a red herring as Eddie was trained using Pig meat at first.

It's you who doesn't understand.

There would be clear biochemical differences between the pig and human, bar transgenic species.

Now did the forensic samples indicate the presence of any pig D.N.A. from those collected where the dogs alerted ?

[Alfred R Jones]

It's you who doesn't understand.

There would be clear biochemical differences between the pig and human, bar transgenic species.

Now did the forensic samples indicate the presence of any pig D.N.A. from those collected where the dogs alerted ?

What forensics were done to the flowerbed?

[Mr Gray]

It's you who doesn't understand.

There would be clear biochemical differences between the pig and human, bar transgenic species.

Now did the forensic samples indicate the presence of any pig D.N.A. from those collected where the dogs alerted ?

nothing of any significance was found

[stephen25000]

What forensics were done to the flowerbed?

The only pertinent question is, where there any non human 'traces' in the samples analysed.

If there wasn't all reference to pigs is pure hogwash.

[Alfred R Jones]

The only pertinent question is, where there any non human 'traces' in the samples analysed.

If there wasn't all reference to pigs is pure hogwash.

What samples were taken from the flowerbed? 

[Eleanor]

The only pertinent question is, where there any non human 'traces' in the samples analysed.

If there wasn't all reference to pigs is pure hogwash.

Were there any non human traces in The Death Scent?

[stephen25000]

Were there any non human traces in The Death Scent?

That is precisely what I am asking.

If they're wasn't then all this about the pigs is irrelevant.

[Eleanor]

That is precisely what I am asking.

If they're wasn't then all this about the pigs is irrelevant.

If you think it is possible to detect no human traces in a Death Scent then you are a better man than I am, Gunger Din

[Alfred R Jones]

The dog alerted to the flowerbed.  What forensics were done on the flowerbed?

[stephen25000]

If you think it is possible to detect no human traces in a Death Scent then you are a better man than I am, Gunger Din

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