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Offline pegasus

Re: Amaral and the dogs
« Reply #3690 on: August 24, 2015, 03:52:09 PM »
A picture of Eddie which should be a big clue that he did not alert to the scent of fish alive or dead.
http://i.imgur.com/vldy8zT.jpg?1-EVRD-Eddie-UK_Justice_Forum

Offline misty

Re: Amaral and the dogs
« Reply #3691 on: August 24, 2015, 04:14:22 PM »
A picture of Eddie which should be a big clue that he did not alert to the scent of fish alive or dead.
http://i.imgur.com/vldy8zT.jpg?1-EVRD-Eddie-UK_Justice_Forum

His leg fur is very wet but his mouth is empty. Perhaps he swallowed the evidence.
Nice promotional picture for the outdoor pursuits apparel company!

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Amaral and the dogs
« Reply #3692 on: August 24, 2015, 04:20:52 PM »
In the video of the dogs if you look in the wardrobe where the blue tennis bag is you might see half a pound of pork sausages

stephen25000

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Re: Amaral and the dogs
« Reply #3693 on: August 24, 2015, 04:30:17 PM »
In the video of the dogs if you look in the wardrobe where the blue tennis bag is you might see half a pound of pork sausages

Did you enjoy then with a bottle of chianti ? *&*%£

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Amaral and the dogs
« Reply #3694 on: August 24, 2015, 04:36:16 PM »
Did you enjoy then with a bottle of chianti ? *&*%£

Sausages and Chianti ... Oh dear...what appalling taste
If I was going to drink Italian red it would be Barolo
But much prefer South American

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Amaral and the dogs
« Reply #3695 on: August 24, 2015, 04:39:44 PM »
Eddie was initially trained on decomposing piglets. He was enhanced by being trained on human decomposing renains. so he was trained on both. He also alerted to human blood. He had years of experience too, which is invaluable whether you are a dog or a human. He knew what he was looking for.
So, if you accept that he alerted to both pig and to human remains how the jiggery did Martin Grime communicate to Eddie to only alert to human cadaver scent when in PdL?  Or was he initially trained to alert to pigs and then trained not to alert to pigs, and if so - how is that communicated via the handler?

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Amaral and the dogs
« Reply #3696 on: August 24, 2015, 04:43:00 PM »
Alerts all over the place could then have been possible since tracking through from the outside spaces/gardens would occur everywhere.
No, because the dogs have to be primed by the handler to commence work mode, if not then presumably they would both be alerting all over the place anyway, unless you believe we live in a completely sterile world in which no drop of blood ever gets spilt anywhere.

stephen25000

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Re: Amaral and the dogs
« Reply #3697 on: August 24, 2015, 04:56:44 PM »
Sausages and Chianti ... Oh dear...what appalling taste
If I was going to drink Italian red it would be Barolo
But much prefer South American

We thought you wouldn't get the joke.

ferryman

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Re: Amaral and the dogs
« Reply #3698 on: August 24, 2015, 05:04:18 PM »
His leg fur is very wet but his mouth is empty. Perhaps he swallowed the evidence.
Nice promotional picture for the outdoor pursuits apparel company!


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Of course, the other point is that all working dogs alert only when given a signal by their instructor/owner that they are to be in work mode ...

ferryman

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Re: Amaral and the dogs
« Reply #3699 on: August 24, 2015, 05:05:55 PM »
No, because the dogs have to be primed by the handler to commence work mode, if not then presumably they would both be alerting all over the place anyway, unless you believe we live in a completely sterile world in which no drop of blood ever gets spilt anywhere.

Yes .....

Offline misty

Re: Amaral and the dogs
« Reply #3700 on: August 24, 2015, 05:08:15 PM »

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Of course, the other point is that all working dogs alert only when given a signal by their instructor/owner that they are to be in work mode ...

A clothing model would be very upset to be told that posing for the camera wasn't being in work mode.....

ferryman

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Re: Amaral and the dogs
« Reply #3701 on: August 24, 2015, 05:13:26 PM »
A clothing model would be very upset to be told that posing for the camera wasn't being in work mode.....

No wonder poor Eddie was confused ....

stephen25000

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Re: Amaral and the dogs
« Reply #3702 on: August 24, 2015, 05:18:22 PM »

                                    @)(++(*

Of course, the other point is that all working dogs alert only when given a signal by their instructor/owner that they are to be in work mode ...


Have you lot thought about forming a Porkie Appreciation  Club ?  *&*%£

Offline Benice

Re: Amaral and the dogs
« Reply #3703 on: August 24, 2015, 05:33:38 PM »

Have you lot thought about forming a Porkie Appreciation  Club ?  *&*%£


Why all the sneering?

As it is Martin Grime himself who brought up the fact that the dogs can't distinguish between pigmeat and human remains - I don't understand why sceptics are so quick to dismiss the subject.   

 He obviously thought it was an important point to make when it came to discussing/explaining how the dogs operate - so what's wrong with posters here discussing it too - and why do you have such a problem with that?   


The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

Offline Brietta

Re: Amaral and the dogs
« Reply #3704 on: August 24, 2015, 05:34:06 PM »
His leg fur is very wet but his mouth is empty. Perhaps he swallowed the evidence.
Nice promotional picture for the outdoor pursuits apparel company!

Is that the Brand name of a company, Misty?

I thought it was Keela's very own wet suit ... but it isn't hers ... she's advertising ??? 
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