Amaral and the dogs

[Carana]

IIRC it's on a documentary/video about HDLG. Grime is on a beach then hides an open jar of ancient bone fragments up in the rocks for Eddie to find. Sorry - I've lost all my links, but I'll try to find the link on Google unless someone else can post it.

Found it.

[ferryman]

Keela inspected the clothes first to rule out blood so if Eddie comes next and alerts it suggests cadaver odour.

So why did Eddie not alert to any clothing in the villa he, apparently, "alerted" to in the gym?

And is there any evidence of Keela and Eddie being deployed together before PdL?

[sadie]

Found it.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmHdPGyQt2M[/youtube]

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmHdPGyQt2M[/youtube]

Wont work Carana, cos there is an "s" after http

Drop the "s" to

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmHdPGyQt2M

... et voila it works!

[faithlilly]

So why did Eddie not alert to any clothing in the villa he, apparently, "alerted" to in the gym?

And is there any evidence of Keela and Eddie being deployed together before PdL?

Eddie inspected the McCanns clothing in the villa ? Do you have any written or visual verification for that ?

[ferryman]

Eddie inspected the McCanns clothing in the villa ? Do you have any written or visual verification for that ?

Following the search effected at Rua das Flores, 27, during which certain items were seized, this present inspection was performed, in a place appropriated for its purpose [the gym], attempting to identify particular pieces of clothing possibly indicated by the dogs, namely Eddy [that] indicates cadaver odours and Kila [that] indicates blood odours.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/INSPECTION_SITES.htm

[Carew]

So why did Eddie not alert to any clothing in the villa he, apparently, "alerted" to in the gym?

And is there any evidence of Keela and Eddie being deployed together before PdL?

Were the dogs given the opportunity to inspect the clothing actually at the villa, though?

It doesn`t look like it from the report.

Clothing was seized and boxed there, but there seems no report of the dogs actually having access to items of clothing until later at the gym.

The report moves to the gym following the part I`ve snipped, below.

Have I missed or mis-read something?


*snip*
Page 2097-2098
Official document of search and seizure.
 Inspector: Joao Carlos
 Date: 02 August 2007
 Place: Rua das Flores, 27
 Officers: Tavares de Almeida, Vitor Matos, Joao Carlos, Carlos Dordonnat, Carla Brito (Interpreter)
 Consent given by: Gerry McCann
 Legal formalities having been observed a search was undertaken.
 The following describes in detail the number and quality of papers or detected objects, and the exact place of the same with the seizure declaration and indication of how they were packed up:
 - The present search was started at 18h00.
 - The residence comprised: entrance hall; a WC (01) on the left; twins' bedroom; visitors' bedroom with WC en suite; master bedroom [bedroom of the couple]; lounge; dining area; WC and kitchen.
 - All outside rooms [annexes] searched nothing was seized.
 - OBJECTS FOR EXAMINATION
 1. One (01) pink cloth toy, with yellow paws and ears and blue label, make "cuddle cat", with a third in wood and a green band, alluding to Fatima, that was found in the lounge on top of a large chair [armchair].
 2. Clothes, shoes, bags [hand-bags; suitcases] and travel bags [knapsacks] that were packed as follows:
 - Lounge, two boxes.
 - Master bedroom, two boxes.
 - Twins' bedroom, one suitcase.
 - Visitors' bedroom, one suitcase.
3. Various papers.
 - One bible, bedside table of the master bedroom.
 - Two diaries and a notepad that was found in the cupboard of the master bedroom.
 - On pair of latex gloves, that was found in a drawer of a bedside table of the visitors' bedroom.
 - There being nothing more to record, the present activity was ended at 20h30.
 - This document is drawn up to ratify the truth of the above and it is going to be duly signed.
 (four signatures)
 =======================================================
 Page 2099

Official record of the canine inspection at 18h14 on 2 August 2007 at the current residence of the McCann couple situated at Rua das Flores, 27, Praia da Luz, Lagos.

 The five participants are indicated as two PJ Inspectors; UK NPIA officer (Harrison); UK dog handler (Grime); UK English Springer spaniel (Eddy).

 The entire activity was recorded on video image and sound.

 As part of the residence search performed today at the above address, a canine search was also conducted.

 Thus, the activity started at the indicated time, all rooms at the address [property] having been walked through, the following result being confirmed:

 - 18h36 - the dog Eddy, that detects cadaver odour, 'marked' [alerted in] the area of a cupboard in the lounge, it being confirmed that the dog indicated a pink soft toy belonging to Madeleine Beth McCann.

 This document is drawn up to ratify the truth of the above and is duly signed.
 (two signatures)
 ===================

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/INSPECTION_SITES.htm

[Anna]

Any help @ about 2.30

[ferryman]

At one time, before fraudster Levy started tampering with the lighting of the inspection at the villa, it was possible to see, very plainly, clothing littered about all over the villa, on the floors, on the beds, on the chairs (etc.)

All studiously ignored by Eddie.

Eddie was only interested in the toy.

Which he alerted to only after some bounder took it away from him and hid it in a cupboard.

In short, Eddie barked and picked up clothing in the gym he ignored completely in the villa.

[ferryman]

Any help @ about 2.30

Not sure what you're referring to at 2 minutes 30, but you can see the clothing littered about the villa throughout the video.

[pathfinder73]

Following the search effected at Rua das Flores, 27, during which certain items were seized, this present inspection was performed, in a place appropriated for its purpose [the gym], attempting to identify particular pieces of clothing possibly indicated by the dogs, namely Eddy [that] indicates cadaver odours and Kila [that] indicates blood odours.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/INSPECTION_SITES.htm

Show the clothes Eddie later alerted to in the villa footage.

'With respect to the cadaver odour on Kate's clothes, could it be undoubtedly affirmed that those clothes had been in contact with a cadaver'
OR
Could the alert have been given because the clothes had been in contact with other items of clothing, surfaces or objects that could previously have touched a cadaver, thereby allowing the odour to be transferred''

There is always a possibility of contamination of odours by transferral. EVRD does not make a distinction; he responds with a certain behaviour for which he was trained when he recognizes an odour. He does not identify the reasons for the presence of the odour nor does he identify suspects. Forensic confirmation and specialized investigation methods will determine the reasons and the suspicions. In order to undoubtedly affirm there must be a confirmation of the alert signals made by the dog.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_GRIMES_RIGATORY.htm

"I would have gotten away with it, too, if it weren't for that meddling FBI and their dog!"

[Anna]

Not sure what you're referring to at 2 minutes 30, but you can see the clothing littered about the villa throughout the video.

It is around that time that he is searching wardrobes.

[ferryman]

Show the clothes Eddie later alerted to in the villa footage.

Mission impossible.  Eddie never alerted to any clothing (at least in PdL)

Ah!  Ok thanks Anna.

[Carew]

At one time, before fraudster Levy started tampering with the lighting of the inspection at the villa, it was possible to see, very plainly, clothing littered about all over the villa, on the floors, on the beds, on the chairs (etc.)

All studiously ignored by Eddie.

Eddie was only interested in the toy.

Which he alerted to only after some bounder took it away from him and hid it in a cupboard.

In short, Eddie barked and picked up clothing in the gym he ignored completely in the villa.

I used the report which you linked.

The report doesn`t seem to record an inspection by the dogs of the actual clothing which was boxed / packed at the villa before the dogs were involved .

Just items seized and boxed........presumably for a later inspection at the gym?

There seems to be no written report of the "non alerts" to clothing inspected by the dogs actually at the villa, does there?

No confirmation anywhere that the clothes alerted to at the gym were previously not signalled at the villa.

[Carana]

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmHdPGyQt2M[/youtube]

Wont work Carana, cos there is an "s" after http

Drop the "s" to

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmHdPGyQt2M

... et voila it works!

Thanks Sadie, I didn't check before posting.

[ferryman]

I used the report which you linked.

The report doesn`t seem to record an inspection by the dogs of the actual clothing which was boxed / packed at the villa before the dogs were involved .

Just items seized and boxed........presumably for a later inspection at the gym?

There seems to be no written report of the "non alerts" to clothing inspected by the dogs actually at the villa, does there?

No confirmation anywhere that the clothes alerted to at the gym were previously not signalled at the villa.

The official written record, what I posted earlier.

Why do you suppose Harrison tersely dismissed both inspections at villa and gym as PJ exercises?

I'll tell you why.

It was because he had nothing to do with either of them.