Amaral and the dogs

[ferryman]

In a nutshell, the handler of a dog trained to alert to the scent of dead bodies says that the dog alerted in places in 5a and a dog trained to alert to the scent of blood did not alert in the same place.

Uncorroborated cadaver-dog alerts are NOT acceptable as evidence in English courts.

And I'm pretty sure the alerts in the (first) PdL investigation would have been rejected in a Scottish court as well because (among other reasons) of wholesale disregard of the principle of cross-contamination.

[ferryman]

They [the dogs] may be able to detect whether a dead body has been transported in one of the vehicles for intelligence purposes or detect human blood deposits that can be recovered and
examined in a laboratory for Madeleine McCann's blood.

(Mark Harrison)

Intelligence is not acceptable as evidence in court.

[slartibartfast]

Uncorroborated cadaver-dog alerts are NOT acceptable as evidence in English courts.

And I'm pretty sure the alerts in the (first) PdL investigation would have been rejected in a Scottish court as well because (among other reasons) of wholesale disregard of the principle of cross-contamination.

I didn't say they did. If you think my statement was incorrect, please point out where?

[ferryman]

I didn't say they did. If you think my statement was incorrect, please point out where?

Eddie's alerts were inherently unreliable in PdL.

[slartibartfast]

Eddie's alerts were inherently unreliable in PdL.

Fine so my statement was correct.

[ferryman]

Fine so my statement was correct.

Your statement is irrelevant. 

The dogs were poorly handled and their alerts meaningless.

[slartibartfast]

Your statement is irrelevant. 

The dogs were poorly handled and their alerts meaningless.

[faithlilly]

Your statement is irrelevant. 

The dogs were poorly handled and their alerts meaningless.

How many years experience have you as a dog handler ferryman ?

[ferryman]

How many years experience have you as a dog handler ferryman ?

How many years' experience have you had?

[stephen25000]

How many years experience have you as a dog handler ferryman ?

His experience comes down to googling, as he admitted himself.

So perhaps he should google up on cardiac surgery.

I'm sure that will qualify him for surgical procedures

[stephen25000]

How many years' experience have you had?

Try answering the question before you pose one.

[stephen25000]

yes I can...you never learn do you

You never have backed up any of your personal claims.

They remain pure fiction.

[ferryman]

However, it must be stated any such indications without any physical evidence to support them can not have any evidential value, being unconfirmed indications. Additionally I consider no inference can be drawn as to whether a human cadaver has previously been in any location without other supporting physical evidence.

(Mark Harrison)

He went on to state that if death has occurred, he thought it most likely that Madeleine's remains had been jettisoned into the sea.

Note the crucial if.

How many years' experience has Harrison had?

[faithlilly]

How many years' experience have you had?

None. That's why I leave it to the experts.

So how many ferryman ?

[ferryman]

None. That's why I leave it to the experts.

In which case you will pay particular heed to the words of Mark Harrison which I quote above.