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Offline mercury

Re: Amaral and the dogs
« Reply #4620 on: August 30, 2015, 07:40:09 PM »
There was neither cadaver nor cadaver scent detected in the 2007/8 (shelved) enquiry ....

When was this proved? A cite would be very helpful here.

Edited to change disproved to proved......
« Last Edit: August 30, 2015, 07:42:23 PM by mercury »

Offline pegasus

Re: Amaral and the dogs
« Reply #4621 on: August 30, 2015, 08:49:12 PM »
Precisely Mercury it would be a bizarre exercise in pointlessness to hide something from noone.

Offline mercury

Re: Amaral and the dogs
« Reply #4622 on: August 30, 2015, 11:28:32 PM »
Precisely Mercury it would be a bizarre exercise in pointlessness to hide something from noone.

the only people possibly looking and finding a body would be the parents their children and other checkers, police are ruled out here

It's still a bit on the fringe movement though

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Amaral and the dogs
« Reply #4623 on: August 30, 2015, 11:51:12 PM »
Precisely Mercury it would be a bizarre exercise in pointlessness to hide something from noone.

If you had a corpse in your house you may hide it away and not leave it on the sofa to admire.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline mercury

Re: Amaral and the dogs
« Reply #4624 on: August 31, 2015, 12:12:20 AM »
If you had a corpse in your house you may hide it away and not leave it on the sofa to admire.
that's a point I suppose....but still PF, stick it in the wardrobe?

I just c ant picture Gerry or Kate walking into their flat finding their daughter dead and sticking her in the wardrobe....

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Amaral and the dogs
« Reply #4625 on: August 31, 2015, 12:14:15 AM »
that's a point I suppose....but still PF, stick it in the wardrobe?

I just c ant picture Gerry or Kate walking into their flat finding their daughter dead and sticking her in the wardrobe....

That depends on whether they wanted anybody to know about it.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline mercury

Re: Amaral and the dogs
« Reply #4626 on: August 31, 2015, 12:19:06 AM »
That depends on whether they wanted anybody to know about it.
If there WAS a corpse the scent could have settled in the wardrobe without it being there ever....and as I posted earlier this evening the scent could have contaminated some clothes if it did even without touching them

it is a conundrum isn't it....but not a conundrum to the point some have pulled it in the most ridiculous ways such as remnant scent of blood, saliva, BO etc....the dog question will NEVER go away because it has NOT been answered..many have tried and failed
« Last Edit: August 31, 2015, 12:23:31 AM by mercury »

Offline misty

Re: Amaral and the dogs
« Reply #4627 on: August 31, 2015, 12:31:07 AM »
That depends on whether they wanted anybody to know about it.

Bung her in the wardrobe & run to the Tapas Bar screaming for help......yes, that sounds like a plan. Only in the world of a deluded detective.

Offline mercury

Re: Amaral and the dogs
« Reply #4628 on: August 31, 2015, 01:26:14 AM »
Bung her in the wardrobe & run to the Tapas Bar screaming for help......yes, that sounds like a plan. Only in the world of a deluded detective.
Did Amaral say that? Cite then!!

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Amaral and the dogs
« Reply #4629 on: August 31, 2015, 07:28:47 AM »
Bung her in the wardrobe & run to the Tapas Bar screaming for help......yes, that sounds like a plan. Only in the world of a deluded detective.

That didn't happen but you do need a plan  8(>((
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Carana

Re: Amaral and the dogs
« Reply #4630 on: August 31, 2015, 01:06:46 PM »
Madeleine's name features just once in John Lowe's report:

An incomplete DNA result was obtained from cellular material on the swab (286A/2007 CRL 3a). The swab contained very little information and showed low level indications of DNA from more than one person. However, all of the confirmed DNA components within this result match the corresponding components in the DNA profile of Madeline McCann. LCN DNA profiling is highly sensitive; it is not possible attribute this DNA profile to a particular body fluid.


It doesn't say whereabouts in the villa that was taken from.

Don't you mean 5A, not "villa"?

It appears to be from one of the tiles behind the sofa.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/V/08_VOLUME_VIIIa_Page_2192_a.jpg

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/P12/12_VOLUME_XIIa_Page_3216.jpg

and

Conclusions:
On 4 August there were collected at [the above address]:
- Three (3) spots from the floor, numbered as trace evidence 1 to 3;
- Ten (10) spots from the wall, numbered as trace evidence 4 to 13;
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/BLOOD.htm

Offline pegasus

Re: Amaral and the dogs
« Reply #4631 on: August 31, 2015, 01:29:31 PM »
Don't you mean 5A, not "villa"?

It appears to be from one of the tiles behind the sofa.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/V/08_VOLUME_VIIIa_Page_2192_a.jpg

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/P12/12_VOLUME_XIIa_Page_3216.jpg

and

Conclusions:
On 4 August there were collected at [the above address]:
- Three (3) spots from the floor, numbered as trace evidence 1 to 3;
- Ten (10) spots from the wall, numbered as trace evidence 4 to 13;
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/BLOOD.htm
"286A/2007 CRL 3a" (see post above).
They did a dry swab and a wet swab of each spot, labelled a and b.
"3a" possibly means it is the dry swab of spot 3 on the lounge floor before the tiles were taken up???
(ETA this is probably wrong)
« Last Edit: August 31, 2015, 01:37:36 PM by pegasus »

Offline Lace

Re: Amaral and the dogs
« Reply #4632 on: August 31, 2015, 01:38:14 PM »
If there WAS a corpse the scent could have settled in the wardrobe without it being there ever....and as I posted earlier this evening the scent could have contaminated some clothes if it did even without touching them

it is a conundrum isn't it....but not a conundrum to the point some have pulled it in the most ridiculous ways such as remnant scent of blood, saliva, BO etc....the dog question will NEVER go away because it has NOT been answered..many have tried and failed

Are you referring to me when you say blood is a ridiculous as a remnant scent?    I remind you it was a forensic scientist who said that.

Offline pegasus

Re: Amaral and the dogs
« Reply #4633 on: August 31, 2015, 01:47:22 PM »
What we need is a photo of this whole area of tiles (with spots labelled) before the tiles were taken up

ferryman

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Re: Amaral and the dogs
« Reply #4634 on: August 31, 2015, 01:57:02 PM »
Don't you mean 5A, not "villa"?

It appears to be from one of the tiles behind the sofa.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/V/08_VOLUME_VIIIa_Page_2192_a.jpg

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/P12/12_VOLUME_XIIa_Page_3216.jpg

and

Conclusions:
On 4 August there were collected at [the above address]:
- Three (3) spots from the floor, numbered as trace evidence 1 to 3;
- Ten (10) spots from the wall, numbered as trace evidence 4 to 13;
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/BLOOD.htm

Thank you.  Yes of course I do.  I will edit my post.