Amaral and the dogs

[mercury]

I shan't re-hash (yet again!) the words of Mark Harrison which confirms what I say as true.

no, do not, we have all read them as well as other things a million times over, everyone knows what is in the files, the problem lies in the "interpretation" of

Without "interpretation" Harrison said without corroboration the alerts remain unconfirmed indications.....it's not hard to work out what that means, and it does not mean meaningless...

To be frank, I'm bored now, so carry on having fun with your libelling and twisting....

 &8#£%

[Mr Gray]

no, do not, we have all read them as well as other things a million times over, everyone knows what is in the files, the problem lies in the "interpretation" of

Without "interpretation" Harrison said without corroboration the alerts remain unconfirmed indications.....it's not hard to work out what that means, and it does not mean meaningless...

To be frank, I'm bored now, so carry on having fun with your libelling and twisting....

 &8#£%

so  what do the alerts mean.......you wont be able to answer that question

[Mr Gray]

as no one can tell us what the alerts mean..they remain meaningless

[mercury]

that's right...unconfirmed...there is no evidence the dog alerted to cadaver odour

Oh but a cadaver dog alerting is exactly that..a lot of the time....deal with it....the blank denial is breathtaking

It seems in your mind Eddie may have been alerting to primroses as much as anythng else, plain logic tells us you are wrong....it is NOT meaningless when a CADAVER dog alerts...

[Mr Gray]

Oh but a cadaver dog alerting is exactly that..a lot of the time....deal with it....the blank denial is breathtaking

It seems in your mind Eddie may have been alerting to primroses as much as anythng else, plain logic tells us you are wrong...

you are rambling..if you cannot tell us what the alerts mean they are meaningless..

[ferryman]

Is there any particular reason why you  never give links to support your statements? IE, in this case, where in the files is there proof that the dog videos have been heavily edited?[/b]

Can you produce a video of Eddie, literally, playing with cuddle cat?

We know it be true that he did, because PJ Inspector Dias records it in his report (on line).

[mercury]

you are rambling..if you cannot tell us what the alerts mean they are meaningless..no wonder you run away

the alerts remain as indications...as stated by Harrison......a cadaver dog alerted....a cadaver dog is trained in death....pure logic tells you all you need to know, cue snap at heels rubbish, zzzzzzzzzzz

[mercury]

Can you produce a video of Eddie, literally, playing with cuddle cat?

We know it be true that he did, because PJ Inspector Dias records it in his report (on line).

the question was where was Davel's proof for what he said, ie that the evidence for a heavily edited video was in the files,one thing at a time dear, no twisting, derailing or obfuscation required

[Carana]

the question was where was Davel's proof for what he said, ie that the evidence for a heavily edited video was in the files,one thing at a time dear, no twisting, derailing or obfuscation required

The dog inspection videos weren't on the DVD, presumably. Whether they were available to any journalist who requested them isn't clear, either.

The full footage of the dog inspections hasn't been made accessible, AFAIK. Have you seen footage of the dogs on the beach?

There are most definitely edits to the footage in the extended clips that we have seen. I pointed one out the other day. Unless you were paying attention, you wouldn't have noticed that just after Grime says that he didn't intend to put Eddie in the car, there's a cut and Grime opens the door for Keela. In the meantime, the car had apparently undergone a forensic inspection on a different floor.

[ferryman]

the question was where was Davel's proof for what he said, ie that the evidence for a heavily edited video was in the files,one thing at a time dear, no twisting, derailing or obfuscation required

I'm not aware of anything which states, in the files, that videos have been edited, if that's what you mean.

But Dias' description of Eddie literally playing with cuddle-cat was once clear from the video of the inspection in the villa, but now no longer is, because someone (presumably Levy) has edited that sequence out.

Also, does the video of the inspection in the gym now show the clothes being literally taken out of the cardboard boxes they were transported in?

I'm genuinely not sure.

But at one time, it certainly did.

[mercury]

The dog inspection videos weren't on the DVD, presumably. Whether they were available to any journalist who requested them isn't clear, either.

The full footage of the dog inspections hasn't been made accessible, AFAIK. Have you seen footage of the dogs on the beach?

There are most definitely edits to the footage in the extended clips that we have seen. I pointed one out the other day. Unless you were paying attention, you wouldn't have noticed that just after Grime says that he didn't intend to put Eddie in the car, there's a cut and Grime opens the door for Keela. In the meantime, the car had apparently undergone a forensic inspection on a different floor.

The dog searches were hours and hours longer than the video, in that way it has been edited, who wants to see where the dogs roaming fields did not alert! The inference is it has been edited (and heavily) to show the Mccanns are guilty....which is quite franky silly any which way you look at it. the video shows the alerts...that's the important part.

[ferryman]

Sweet dreams, Mercury ....

[Mr Gray]

Where's this report been hiding...

I believe that this report was Feb 2008.

From the screening of the videos, referred previously, done when the dogs were working, some doubts arise. We don't want and we can't take the place of the trainer, we only wish to alert, with this paragraph, to some facts, that according to us, need further clarification.

If the dog is trained to react when he detects what he is looking for, why, in most of the cases, we see the dog passing more than once by that place in an uninterested way, until he finally signals the place where he had already passed several times'

On one of the films, it's possible to see that 'Eddie' sniffs Madeleine's cuddle cat, more than once, bites it, throws it into the air and only after the toy is hidden does he 'mark' it (page 2099). Whys didn't he signal it when he sniffs it on the first time'

Apart from all that was said about the dogs, we must also take into attention the results of the forensic analysis that was performed by the experts on the Scientific Police Laboratory on the day immediately after the facts, and already mentioned where no vestige of blood was found.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/ANALYSIS-11-VOLUMES.htm

Doesn't the red highlight ring any alarm bells...no wonder the arguido status was removed

I would say that proves the videos have been heavily edited  to make the alerts seem more impressive than they actually are

[stephen25000]

I would say that proves the videos have been heavily edited  to make the alerts seem more impressive than they actually are

In reality to make a correct judgement, the unedited recordings would have to be viewed.

[Mr Gray]

In reality to make a correct judgement, the unedited recordings would have to be viewed.

then we can make no judgement on the alerts themselves unless the full videos have been viewed...what we have is proof from the statement by the pj that they have been heavily edited