Author Topic: Brexit has well and truly begun!  (Read 284209 times)

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stephen25000

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Re: Brexit has well and truly begun!
« Reply #30 on: August 04, 2016, 01:27:24 PM »
Well naturally but when it suits they merely change the law.  Parliament and by extension the government are the supreme authority in this country.  Courts are merely a mechanism and not the panacea or elixir you appear to think they are.

Courts are a back up.

As to Parliaments  *&*%£
« Last Edit: August 04, 2016, 04:22:13 PM by stephen25000 »

stephen25000

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Re: Brexit has well and truly begun!
« Reply #31 on: August 04, 2016, 01:29:12 PM »
Bloody fab... mortgage payers have never had it so good.  Rock on Brexit!

 Not for long.

Offline John

Re: Brexit has well and truly begun!
« Reply #32 on: August 04, 2016, 01:41:23 PM »
It seems most of Europe want to follow our lead and have their own Referendum.  Unsurprisingly, lame ducks including Croatia, Romania and Portugal prefer to maintain the status quo.  Strangely however, Greece has also seen calls for a Referendum?

« Last Edit: August 04, 2016, 01:53:19 PM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Carana

Re: Brexit has well and truly begun!
« Reply #33 on: August 04, 2016, 01:46:32 PM »
It seems most of Europe want to follow our lead and have their own Referendum.



And the goal of a disintegrated Europe will be?

And who stands to profit?

Offline John

Re: Brexit has well and truly begun!
« Reply #34 on: August 04, 2016, 01:58:09 PM »
And the goal of a disintegrated Europe will be?

And who stands to profit?

Disintegrated?   Getting rid of the corrupt, wasteful, toothless giant called the EU will not affect our security one iota.
« Last Edit: August 05, 2016, 03:17:45 PM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Alfie

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Re: Brexit has well and truly begun!
« Reply #35 on: August 04, 2016, 02:05:52 PM »
Bloody fab... mortgage payers have never had it so good.  Rock on Brexit!
Are you going to be quite so ebullient when your banks starts charging you for simply depositing money in your current account and using it to pay bills?

Alfie

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Re: Brexit has well and truly begun!
« Reply #36 on: August 04, 2016, 02:07:09 PM »
Disintegrated?   Getting rid of the corrupt, wasteful, toothless giant called the EU will not affect our security one iota.
Whilst at the same time President Trump pulls out of NATO, yes nothing to worry here, move along...

Offline Carana

Re: Brexit has well and truly begun!
« Reply #37 on: August 04, 2016, 02:14:32 PM »
Disintegrated?   Getting rid of the corrupt, wasteful, toothless giant called the EU will not affect our security one iota.

What makes you think that, John?

What's the solution for high-speed security cooperation if existing agreements have to be renegotiated?

If Ireland and Scotland choose to remain, what practical measures will that entail? Not just for security, but also for commuters and businesses?

Offline Carana

Re: Brexit has well and truly begun!
« Reply #38 on: August 04, 2016, 02:17:19 PM »
Whilst at the same time President Trump pulls out of NATO, yes nothing to worry here, move along...

That couldn't possibly be in any way related to his bromance with Russian oligarchs, of course...

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Brexit has well and truly begun!
« Reply #39 on: August 05, 2016, 03:10:29 PM »
Are you going to be quite so ebullient when your banks starts charging you for simply depositing money in your current account and using it to pay bills?

Just like they used to "in the good old days" ?
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Offline John

Re: Brexit has well and truly begun!
« Reply #40 on: August 05, 2016, 03:18:25 PM »
Whilst at the same time President Trump pulls out of NATO, yes nothing to worry here, move along...

The US is NATO or haven't you heard?
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Alfie

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Re: Brexit has well and truly begun!
« Reply #41 on: August 05, 2016, 03:24:59 PM »
The US is NATO or haven't you heard?
Haven't I heard what?  I've heard Trump threaten to withdraw protection for NATO countries, remove US soldiers from European soil and demand that Europe spends more to protect themselves, all the while making goo-goo eyes at Putin, what have I missed?

Offline John

Re: Brexit has well and truly begun!
« Reply #42 on: August 05, 2016, 03:30:28 PM »
What makes you think that, John?

What's the solution for high-speed security cooperation if existing agreements have to be renegotiated?

If Ireland and Scotland choose to remain, what practical measures will that entail? Not just for security, but also for commuters and businesses?

The EU is a toothless entity Carana, it has never managed to end any conflicts, that is usually down to the US/UK alliance. Look at the Crimea recently and its pathetic posturing, how many more regions will Russia simple walk into and adopt?

The UK has never needed the EU to protect us, in fact it is the EU itself which is the danger.  We are very capable of maintaining alliances with each and every country in the EU without that organisation deciding tactics for us.

As for Scotland and N Ireland, the majority of the population did not vote to remain which speaks for itself. Scotland is currently enjoying a bit of a Nationalist revival but 1.5m hardly equates to much in a population of 6 million.  As for N Ireland, the remainers were mostly Nationalist and Republican voters who saw BrExit as something negative in an all Ireland context so no change there then.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline John

Re: Brexit has well and truly begun!
« Reply #43 on: August 05, 2016, 03:33:26 PM »
Haven't I heard what?  I've heard Trump threaten to withdraw protection for NATO countries, remove US soldiers from European soil and demand that Europe spends more to protect themselves, all the while making goo-goo eyes at Putin, what have I missed?

The UK and western Europe is the US' front line of defence just as it was in 1945.  If Europe were to fall into the hands of some anti US rogue State then the US itself would be in great peril.  Work it out for yourself.
« Last Edit: August 31, 2016, 07:24:54 PM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Alfie

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Re: Brexit has well and truly begun!
« Reply #44 on: August 05, 2016, 03:34:28 PM »
The EU is a toothless entity Carana, it has never managed to end any conflicts, that is usually down to the US/UK alliance. Look at the Crimea recently and its pathetic posturing, how many more regions will Russia simple walk into and adopt?

The UK has never needed the EU to protect us, in fact it is the EU itself which is the danger.  We are very capable of maintaining alliances with each and every country in the EU without that organisation deciding tactics for us.

As for Scotland and N Ireland, the majority of the population did not vote to remain which speaks for itself. Scotland is currently enjoying a bit of a Nationalist revival but 1.5m hardly equates to much in a population of 6 million.  As for N Ireland, the remainers were mostly Nationalist and Republican voters who saw BrExit as something negative in an all Ireland context so no change there then.
The majority of the UK did not vote to leave, so what point are you making with the above?