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Offline G-Unit

Re: Brexit has well and truly begun!
« Reply #450 on: January 20, 2019, 09:20:14 PM »
Does anyone have the faintest idea what the plans are for the service sector (i.e. 80% of the UK economy)?

According to the Chancellor of the Exchequer the vasr majority of services are not traded.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-45707110
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Re: Brexit has well and truly begun!
« Reply #451 on: January 20, 2019, 09:23:40 PM »
To be concerned about the economy IS to be concerned about the poorest in society, for when the economy tanks it is the poorest who are hit hardest.  Even if the experts couldn’t give a toss about the poor it doesn’t change that fact.

Many things affect poverty. Austerity policies for exanple, which are based on ideology, not economics.
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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Brexit has well and truly begun!
« Reply #452 on: January 20, 2019, 10:00:41 PM »
Many things affect poverty. Austerity policies for exanple, which are based on ideology, not economics.
Yes, and?
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Offline Carana

Re: Brexit has well and truly begun!
« Reply #453 on: January 20, 2019, 10:53:48 PM »
According to the Chancellor of the Exchequer the vasr majority of services are not traded.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-45707110


I wonder what this means: "Mr Hammond also justified the exclusion of services from Chequers by saying that it would not be a good idea to agree to adopt the EU's rule book in the service sector because "the rule book is evolving in a way that we can't predict and which could be disadvantageous to our businesses"."


Offline Angelo222

Re: Brexit has well and truly begun!
« Reply #454 on: January 20, 2019, 11:24:57 PM »

I wonder what this means: "Mr Hammond also justified the exclusion of services from Chequers by saying that it would not be a good idea to agree to adopt the EU's rule book in the service sector because "the rule book is evolving in a way that we can't predict and which could be disadvantageous to our businesses"."

Put simply, the French and Germans want to get their hands on our banking, insurance and investment services.
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Offline Carana

Re: Brexit has well and truly begun!
« Reply #455 on: January 20, 2019, 11:40:14 PM »
Put simply, the French and Germans want to get their hands on our banking, insurance and investment services.

What makes you zoom in on the French and Germans? The world is watching this chaos.

Offline Angelo222

Re: Brexit has well and truly begun!
« Reply #456 on: January 20, 2019, 11:42:20 PM »
What makes you zoom in on the French and Germans? The world is watching this chaos.

They want to make Germany the centre of the financial world in Europe instead of London but BREXIT will kill off that particular notion for good.
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Offline Carana

Re: Brexit has well and truly begun!
« Reply #457 on: January 20, 2019, 11:49:05 PM »
A bit of bed-time reading



Guidance on how to prepare for Brexit if there's no deal.

https://www.gov.uk/government/collections/how-to-prepare-if-the-uk-leaves-the-eu-with-no-deal

No, I haven't read it all either. Nor does it seem to be comprehensive.

Who is competent to renegotiate the 759 treaties? And when?

 After Brexit: the UK will need to renegotiate at least 759 treaties
FT research reveals that agreements with 168 countries must be redone just for Britain to stand still

https://www.ft.com/content/f1435a8e-372b-11e7-bce4-9023f8c0fd2e


Offline Angelo222

Re: Brexit has well and truly begun!
« Reply #458 on: January 21, 2019, 12:00:37 AM »
A bit of bed-time reading



Guidance on how to prepare for Brexit if there's no deal.

https://www.gov.uk/government/collections/how-to-prepare-if-the-uk-leaves-the-eu-with-no-deal

No, I haven't read it all either. Nor does it seem to be comprehensive.

Who is competent to renegotiate the 759 treaties? And when?

 After Brexit: the UK will need to renegotiate at least 759 treaties
FT research reveals that agreements with 168 countries must be redone just for Britain to stand still

https://www.ft.com/content/f1435a8e-372b-11e7-bce4-9023f8c0fd2e

It took 45 years to create this mess so it won't all be reversed overnight and that is why Theresa May's deal was a non starter. 
De troothe has the annoying habit of coming to the surface just when you least expect it!!

Je ne regrette rien!!

Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Brexit has well and truly begun!
« Reply #459 on: January 21, 2019, 07:14:04 AM »
They want to make Germany the centre of the financial world in Europe instead of London but BREXIT will kill off that particular notion for good.
Can you explain who “they” is, and how they plannrd to achieve this?  Why will BREXIT stop this from happening?
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Offline Carana

Re: Brexit has well and truly begun!
« Reply #460 on: January 21, 2019, 07:45:37 AM »
It took 45 years to create this mess so it won't all be reversed overnight and that is why Theresa May's deal was a non starter.

What "mess" was there before Brexit?

Offline Carana

Re: Brexit has well and truly begun!
« Reply #461 on: January 21, 2019, 08:16:18 AM »
Can you explain who “they” is, and how they plannrd to achieve this?  Why will BREXIT stop this from happening?

I was wondering that as well...

Offline G-Unit

Re: Brexit has well and truly begun!
« Reply #462 on: January 21, 2019, 10:23:30 AM »
Lord Lilley could be seen as an expert on matters both political and economic. In his opinion there's no need to panic about leaving the EU without a deal.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1067595/brexit-news-no-deal-lord-lilley-wto-rules-30-truths-report
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Offline Angelo222

Re: Brexit has well and truly begun!
« Reply #463 on: January 21, 2019, 11:28:57 AM »
Lord Lilley could be seen as an expert on matters both political and economic. In his opinion there's no need to panic about leaving the EU without a deal.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1067595/brexit-news-no-deal-lord-lilley-wto-rules-30-truths-report

Of course there is no need to panic, the EU needs the UK more than we need them and history has proven this over the last century. If it wasn't for Britain and its allies the whole of Europe would be one huge Germanic state ruled by Nazis by now reaching from Norway to Turkey to Portugal and most probably half of Africa.  Anyone who cannot see that by now has really buried their head in the sand.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Brexit has well and truly begun!
« Reply #464 on: January 21, 2019, 11:40:47 AM »
Of course there is no need to panic, the EU needs the UK more than we need them and history has proven this over the last century. If it wasn't for Britain and its allies the whole of Europe would be one huge Germanic state ruled by Nazis by now reaching from Norway to Turkey to Portugal and most probably half of Africa.  Anyone who cannot see that by now has really buried their head in the sand.

It does make you wonder if some remainers are following the practice of 'keep your friends close and your enemies closer'.
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