Brexit has well and truly begun!

[Venturi Swirl]

Me silly? Has being in the EU given the UK a healthy prosperous economy? Why, then, has the gap between rich and poor grown and the number of those in poverty steadily risen?

I believe the UK is the 5th largest economy in the world and that London is the centre of global finance so certainly I believe we have had a healthy and prosperous economy more info here https://www.inet.ox.ac.uk/news/Brexit , it’s certainly untrue that poverty has steadily risen since joining the Eu, quite the reverse in facthttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poverty_in_the_United_Kingdom  but you are entirely deflecting from my point which was more about your complete lack of concern for the future of this country and your chikdren and grandchildren.  . 

[G-Unit]

I believe the UK is the 5th largest economy in the world and that London is the centre of global finance so certainly I believe we have had a healthy and prosperous economy more info here https://www.inet.ox.ac.uk/news/Brexit , it’s certainly untrue that poverty has steadily risen since joining the Eu, quite the reverse in facthttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poverty_in_the_United_Kingdom  but you are entirely deflecting from my point which was more about your complete lack of concern for the future of this country and your chikdren and grandchildren.  .

Your belief that a prosperous country means prosperous citizens is simplistic and naive imo. As is your belief that prosperity equals happiness.

[Venturi Swirl]

Your belief that a prosperous country means prosperous citizens is simplistic and naive imo. As is your belief that prosperity equals happiness.

You believe that I believe that and so it is you being simplistic and, well, quite insulting really.  Point to where I have made either claim or apologise for misrepresenting my views.

[Venturi Swirl]

That said,  5 of the top ten happiest countries in the world are in the EU.  Compare the list of the poorest countries in the world

https://www.focus-economics.com/blog/the-poorest-countries-in-the-world

with their rankings in the happiness rankings

https://www.gfmag.com/global-data/non-economic-data/happiest-countries

And draw your own conclusions.

[G-Unit]

You believe that I believe that and so it is you being simplistic and, well, quite insulting really.  Point to where I have made either claim or apologise for misrepresenting my views.

You said I should care about the kind of country my descendants will be living in. What difference will it make if I do care?

[Venturi Swirl]

You said I should care about the kind of country my descendants will be living in. What difference will it make if I do care?

For a start it might motivate you to actually getting out and voting next time.  I thought a vote to leave was all about caring for the future of this country, but you seem to think that’s pointless.  You appear quite nihilistic in my view, except you seem to care passionately about democracy - why bother?

[G-Unit]

For a start it might motivate you to actually getting out and voting next time.  I thought a vote to leave was all about caring for the future of this country, but you seem to think that’s pointless.  You appear quite nihilistic in my view, except you seem to care passionately about democracy - why bother?

What was the point in 17.4 million people who cared voting for this country to leave the EU?

[Venturi Swirl]

What was the point in 17.4 million people who cared voting for this country to leave the EU?

What’s the point of drawing your next breath?

[G-Unit]

What’s the point of drawing your next breath?

What a silly comment imo. Why not try to answer the question? Too difficult?

[G-Unit]

That said,  5 of the top ten happiest countries in the world are in the EU.  Compare the list of the poorest countries in the world

https://www.focus-economics.com/blog/the-poorest-countries-in-the-world

with their rankings in the happiness rankings

https://www.gfmag.com/global-data/non-economic-data/happiest-countries

And draw your own conclusions.

Happiness isn't dependant on EU membership or economic prosperity.

[Venturi Swirl]

What a silly comment imo. Why not try to answer the question? Too difficult?

Perhaps you’d care to read back and see how many of my questions you’ve answered properly.   None I think, I guess they were too difficult.  One of your replies was along the line of what should the poor do, lock themselves in a dark cupboard and cry which I thought was particularly silly.  I thought my question to you was rather good as you seem to think everything is ultimately pointless.  To answer your not very difficult question the people voted in the referendum to make their feelings known and the country will never be the same again as a result .  As far as any of us knows we may be fulfilling “the will of the people “ a week Friday.  Rejoice!

[Venturi Swirl]

Happiness isn't dependant on EU membership or economic prosperity.

Who said it was?  However if you have a job and a family to support and the factory you work in closes down is that going to make no difference to your happiness and the wellbeing of your family?

[G-Unit]

Perhaps you’d care to read back and see how many of my questions you’ve answered properly.   None I think, I guess they were too difficult.  One of your replies was along the line of what should the poor do, lock themselves in a dark cupboard and cry which I thought was particularly silly.  I thought my question to you was rather good as you seem to think everything is ultimately pointless.  To answer your not very difficult question the people voted in the referendum to make their feelings known and the country will never be the same again as a result .  As far as any of us knows we may be fulfilling “the will of the people “ a week Friday.  Rejoice!

I see no reason to rejoice if the will of the people is only delivered in spite of our politician's efforts rather than because of them. Most of them have thrown their efforts into preventing the result of the referendum from being implemented.

[G-Unit]

Who said it was?  However if you have a job and a family to support and the factory you work in closes down is that going to make no difference to your happiness and the wellbeing of your family?

You seemed to be suggesting a connection, otherwise why post what you posted

Caring and voting doesn't stop businesses from closing. Having a job doesn't guarantee happiness and wellbeing, especially if the worker deslikes the job. It can cause misery and resentment in the whole family.

[Venturi Swirl]

You seemed to be suggesting a connection, otherwise why post what you posted

Caring and voting doesn't stop businesses from closing. Having a job doesn't guarantee happiness and wellbeing, especially if the worker deslikes the job. It can cause misery and resentment in the whole family.

IMO you are being deliberately obtuse.  If you want to believe that mass unemployment, a recession and rampant inflation has no effect on the well being of the nation that’s your problem.  Just think of all those happy people in places like Venezuela and Zimbabwe, so fortunate to be living in poverty and deprivation.