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Offline pegasus

Re: So what actual searching was there?
« Reply #480 on: November 11, 2015, 01:47:48 AM »
I have read about a case where an innocent relative literally punched a UK detect. for in retrospect failing to search completely the premises

Offline Lace

Re: So what actual searching was there?
« Reply #481 on: November 11, 2015, 11:30:12 AM »
What I fail to understand is,   to get cadaver odour in the first place a body has to be left for an hour and a half.

So,   if Eddie alerted to cadaver odour behind the sofa [I believe he alerted to blood]   then Madeleine would have had to have been there for about an hour and a half.   So when would this have happened? 

Offline Eleanor

Re: So what actual searching was there?
« Reply #482 on: November 11, 2015, 01:04:36 PM »

Could we please try to stick to The Topic.

Offline pegasus

Re: So what actual searching was there?
« Reply #483 on: November 12, 2015, 01:13:20 AM »
@Lace child was seen alive and well at about 2105 ...

Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: So what actual searching was there?
« Reply #484 on: November 12, 2015, 10:47:15 AM »
What I fail to understand is,   to get cadaver odour in the first place a body has to be left for an hour and a half.

So,   if Eddie alerted to cadaver odour behind the sofa [I believe he alerted to blood]   then Madeleine would have had to have been there for about an hour and a half.   So when would this have happened?
If Eddie alerted to blood

and Madeleine bled on or before 3 may 2007

and Eddie alerted on ... whatever - months later

would the blood have been dead enough for Eddie to alert?

Now, if we were sure that Eddie alerted only to dead bodies, as opposed to dead blood, then Eddie's alerts would be interesting.

If the substance Eddie alerted to was Madeleine's blood, then given the long time that had elapsed since Madeleine disappeared before Eddie searched, I would be really worried by non-dead blood.  That would be into the Madeleine-was-an-alien bucket.

Dead blood tells us nothing about how long a potentially dead Madeleine was behind the couch.
What's up, old man?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: So what actual searching was there?
« Reply #485 on: November 12, 2015, 11:15:43 AM »
If Eddie alerted to blood

and Madeleine bled on or before 3 may 2007

and Eddie alerted on ... whatever - months later

would the blood have been dead enough for Eddie to alert?

Now, if we were sure that Eddie alerted only to dead bodies, as opposed to dead blood, then Eddie's alerts would be interesting.

If the substance Eddie alerted to was Madeleine's blood, then given the long time that had elapsed since Madeleine disappeared before Eddie searched, I would be really worried by non-dead blood.  That would be into the Madeleine-was-an-alien bucket.

Dead blood tells us nothing about how long a potentially dead Madeleine was behind the couch.

eddie alerts to blood from a live person

stephen25000

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Re: So what actual searching was there?
« Reply #486 on: November 12, 2015, 11:22:07 AM »
eddie alerts to blood from a live person

What has this to do with the topic?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: So what actual searching was there?
« Reply #487 on: November 12, 2015, 11:36:18 AM »
What has this to do with the topic?

I am replying to a post about blood einstein

stephen25000

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Re: So what actual searching was there?
« Reply #488 on: November 12, 2015, 11:39:10 AM »
I am replying to a post about blood einstein

Ah, attacking the poster again.

You never learn, DO YOU.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: So what actual searching was there?
« Reply #489 on: November 12, 2015, 11:40:29 AM »
Ah, attacking the poster again.

You never learn, DO YOU.

perhaps if you could do something about your fixation with me....the forum would run a little smoother

stephen25000

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Re: So what actual searching was there?
« Reply #490 on: November 12, 2015, 11:42:47 AM »
perhaps if you could do something about your fixation with me....the forum would run a little smoother

Fixation with you.

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That's a classic faux pas.

Offline pegasus

Re: So what actual searching was there?
« Reply #491 on: November 12, 2015, 04:02:53 PM »
First time any investigator (GNR or PJ or forensics or K9) pulled sofa out to search behind it was IMO over 12 weeks too late.
« Last Edit: November 12, 2015, 04:06:38 PM by pegasus »

Offline mercury

Re: So what actual searching was there?
« Reply #492 on: November 13, 2015, 12:35:17 AM »
First time any investigator (GNR or PJ or forensics or K9) pulled sofa out to search behind it was IMO over 12 weeks too late.

Well pegasus her body was never found in 5a at the time or beyond so im struggling to see the point

Offline pegasus

Re: So what actual searching was there?
« Reply #493 on: November 13, 2015, 12:48:37 AM »
The whole case summarised in a few words of the PJ final report http://www.mccannfiles.com/id136.html

"... G5A apartment ... the disappearance of a minor of British nationality ... between 21H05 and 22H00 ..."

Is the question worded correctly?

Offline pegasus

Re: So what actual searching was there?
« Reply #494 on: November 13, 2015, 01:05:08 AM »
Well pegasus her body was never found in 5a at the time or beyond so im struggling to see the point
Well Mercury , just pointing out that the available evidence is that the search (as recorded in statements) inside the property boundaries was incomplete.
« Last Edit: November 13, 2015, 01:31:05 AM by pegasus »