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Offline pegasus

Re: So what actual searching was there?
« Reply #510 on: November 14, 2015, 10:49:24 PM »
Which goes to prove they were looking for evidence of an abductor and not gunnng for the  Mccanns  from day one as some assert
That's true Mercury, but what are interesting are the (red) areas PJ excluded from their forensic search. 50% of the apartment. Basically a missing Lord and the Holy Grail and some unknown Shakespeare works could have been there - and PJ would have been none the wiser.
« Last Edit: November 14, 2015, 10:54:13 PM by pegasus »

Offline mercury

Re: So what actual searching was there?
« Reply #511 on: November 14, 2015, 10:55:36 PM »
That's true Mercury, but what are interesting are the (red) areas PJ excluded from their forensic search. Basically a missing Lord and the Holy Grail and some unknown Shakespeare works could have been there - and PJ would have been none the wiser.

Not sure what you mean but loving the prose

 8**8:/:

Many criticise the police for x y z  I tend to agree, as a humble layman,  the whole flat should have been swept

Offline misty

Re: So what actual searching was there?
« Reply #512 on: November 14, 2015, 11:01:24 PM »
Which goes to prove they were looking for evidence of an abductor and not gunnng for the  Mccanns  from day one as some assert

No, it proves that the investigators failed in their duty to collect all available forensic deposits at the crime scene.
Who would have determined the areas to be scoped & tested?

Offline pegasus

Re: So what actual searching was there?
« Reply #513 on: November 14, 2015, 11:03:54 PM »
Not sure what you mean but loving the prose

 8**8:/:

Many criticise the police for x y z  I tend to agree, as a humble layman,  the whole flat should have been swept
Agreed whole flat should have been searched, absolutely every space, but it wasn't.
Happens in many cases, this is not the first, before or since.

Offline mercury

Re: So what actual searching was there?
« Reply #514 on: November 14, 2015, 11:04:56 PM »
No, it proves that the investigators failed in their duty to collect all available forensic deposits at the crime scene.
Who would have determined the areas to be scoped & tested?

No idea, sorry

Offline pegasus

Re: So what actual searching was there?
« Reply #515 on: November 14, 2015, 11:17:06 PM »
No, it proves that the investigators failed in their duty to collect all available forensic deposits at the crime scene.
Who would have determined the areas to be scoped & tested?
Yes I agree PJ forensics on 4th May should have searched whole apartment and garden.
Why did the PJ forensics search on 4th May find absolutely nothing at the 3 locations at 5A later signalled by Eddie?
Because they didn't search any of those 3 places - see the plan I posted - all 3 locations are in red areas - not searched.

Offline mercury

Re: So what actual searching was there?
« Reply #516 on: November 14, 2015, 11:21:05 PM »
Yes I agree PJ forensics on 4th May should have searched whole apartment and garden.
Why did the PJ forensics search on 4th May find absolutely nothing at the 3 locations at 5A later signalled by Eddie?
Because they didn't search any of those 3 places - see the plan I posted - all 3 locations are in red areas - not searched.

Forensics people cant find the scent of death peg or blood under tiles if you want to include that

Offline pegasus

Re: So what actual searching was there?
« Reply #517 on: November 14, 2015, 11:30:48 PM »
Forensics people cant find the scent of death peg or blood under tiles if you want to include that
PJ cannot possibly know what on early 4th was or wasn't in any of the 50%+ they didn't forensically search.

Offline pegasus

Re: So what actual searching was there?
« Reply #518 on: November 14, 2015, 11:36:58 PM »
Just to illustrate how powerful assumptions are, can you name 6 places in PDL not searched by DP MO ROB DW that night? BTW room names are allowed.

Offline mercury

Re: So what actual searching was there?
« Reply #519 on: November 14, 2015, 11:41:54 PM »
PJ cannot possibly know what on early 4th was or wasn't in any of the 50%+ they didn't forensically search.

No, true, but if there was no body, would not have found evidence of it potentially being there aka eddies alerts that you brought up OR blood that was invisible

It remains a question why the police did nit search the whole flat forensically though

Offline pegasus

Re: So what actual searching was there?
« Reply #520 on: November 15, 2015, 12:20:48 AM »
Answer to the 6 places not searched that night by DP ROB MO DW question is
child bedroom, adult bedroom, hall, kitchen, bathroom, living area.

Offline G-Unit

Re: So what actual searching was there?
« Reply #521 on: November 15, 2015, 03:18:40 PM »
What searching did Gerald McCann do?

When asked why instead of scouring the land next to the complex they stayed inside the apartment, he replies that it did not happen that way.

 While the guests and employees of the resort were searching, he went to the main Reception to check whether they had called the Police, and told Kate to wait inside the apartment. After going to the Reception he went back to the apartment where he stayed in the living room and in their bedroom.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/GERRY-MCCANN-ARGUIDO.htm

The receptionist saw him with John Hill. If it was at the time of the second call to the GNR that would be 10.50pm.

That he immediately contacted the GNR in Lagos, shortly after this the child’s father and John Hill arrived at the reception and he phoned the GNR again.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/HELDER_LUIS.htm
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Offline pegasus

Re: So what actual searching was there?
« Reply #522 on: November 15, 2015, 04:11:26 PM »
Three group members who did do hours of frantic searching that night are ROB MO DP
Here is a map of the area they searched (green) which extends out as far as the beach, and Millennium.
And the two areas they didn't search (red).
The inner red area is magnified of scale by about x50 so you can see it.
The outer red area is obviously the whole world.
Looks a bit like a giant green mint?
« Last Edit: November 15, 2015, 04:23:34 PM by pegasus »

Offline mercury

Re: So what actual searching was there?
« Reply #523 on: November 15, 2015, 10:26:27 PM »
Looks like a button but missing three holes lol


You have a bee in your bonnett about no one searching the flat properly, if it doesnt connect then why?



Offline misty

Re: So what actual searching was there?
« Reply #524 on: November 15, 2015, 10:51:44 PM »
Looks like a button but missing three holes lol


You have a bee in your bonnett about no one searching the flat properly, if it doesnt connect then why?

Maybe because the cadaver dog alerts all occurred in areas which had not been searched by independent witnesses for a child or by the PJ for forensics? (which meant, of course, if you wished to plant any evidence in those places at a later stage it may be hard for an innocent person to explain away but equally would be inadmissible in court)