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stephen25000

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Re: So what actual searching was there?
« Reply #615 on: November 17, 2015, 10:33:04 AM »
The police should have acknowledged that the parents said the window was open,  whether they believed them or not,   action should have been taken straight away in case she had been abducted as well as doing a search of the surrounding area.

Why do you keep saying the McCann's search terminated the following morning?    The police took over,  they went to the station,   what don't you understand?

The police were advised to investigate the McCann's after Amaral completely misunderstood the DNA results and fitted his theory against them.

Your lack of logic is startling.

Madeleine was searched for extensively by local people, holidaymakers, ex-pats and the police. This became an international search.

The PJ focused on the parents, not because of forensics, it was because they could find no evidence of abduction, and all such cases of missing children, say in the UK, would have included investigation of the parents.

As to the mccanns, NOTHING prevented them from searching.

Offline Lace

Re: So what actual searching was there?
« Reply #616 on: November 17, 2015, 10:44:19 AM »
Do you not comprehend.

it was a worldwide story.

Going abroad had zero impact on finding Madeleine.

How did going to the White House for example help in the 'search' ?

A paragraph from Kate's book,  that you probably haven't read -


We  had decided it would further our cause to visit one or two key countries ourselves and appeal personally to their people for help,  seeking assistance and advice from politicians and children's charities.  We wanted to reach some of the hundreds of potential witnesses from elsewhere on the continent who had been on holiday in the Algarve around the time of Madeleine's disappearance.  Perhaps even more importantly, it was quite possible that Madeleine was in another country now.  Had anyone noticed a little girl who seemed out of place, or somebody behaving suspiciously?

You see Stephen,  they were thinking more intensely about finding Madeleine, than just relying on the media.

The visit to America was to discuss the Amber alert.

Offline Lace

Re: So what actual searching was there?
« Reply #617 on: November 17, 2015, 10:47:28 AM »
Your lack of logic is startling.

Madeleine was searched for extensively by local people, holidaymakers, ex-pats and the police. This became an international search.

The PJ focused on the parents, not because of forensics, it was because they could find no evidence of abduction, and all such cases of missing children, say in the UK, would have included investigation of the parents.

As to the mccanns, NOTHING prevented them from searching.

Your blindness is startling.

Amaral only questioned the McCann's AFTER the dogs went in.   He then concocted a theory which would match what the dogs found.   He said there was 100% DNA of Madeleine found in 5a which was rubbish.

They DID search,  for gods sake what is wrong with you?   

Offline Angelo222

Re: So what actual searching was there?
« Reply #618 on: November 17, 2015, 10:52:27 AM »
Never heard of Zoom Lens Angelo?  They are standard equipment for photographers whose livelihood depends on taking and selling piccies to the media -  and sometimes from very great distances away from their 'targets'.    The McCanns may not even have been aware at times that their photo was being taken.

Some people refer to the jogging as a coping mechanism but coping from what?  shame?? guilt?? 
De troothe has the annoying habit of coming to the surface just when you least expect it!!

Je ne regrette rien!!

Offline xtina

Re: So what actual searching was there?
« Reply #619 on: November 17, 2015, 10:54:23 AM »
Oh wouldn't you,  well that is a remark I would expect from someone who no doubt think the McCann's didn't love their child enough to search for her.

I doubt if Sara Payne would agree with you as Sara has expressed her support for the McCann's many times.


are you for real

so you think also ...they loved her enough to loose her .....they failed to protect her .....left her in an unlocked room

one way street in UK ...you have to support the mccs .....so i wouldn't think if i was you they have as much support as you think....

no one saw them searching for that hour ..............so who knows that they did ...[oh yes k remembers it in her book]

IMO .....they didn't search ....because they knew they would not find her
Always listen to both sides of the story before you judge.

The first storyteller you will always find has modified the story, for there benefit BE WISE.

Offline Lace

Re: So what actual searching was there?
« Reply #620 on: November 17, 2015, 10:55:09 AM »
Some people refer to the jogging as a coping mechanism but coping from what?  shame?? guilt??

To relieve stress.

Offline Angelo222

Re: So what actual searching was there?
« Reply #621 on: November 17, 2015, 10:59:32 AM »
So having posted all afternoon that they didn't search you now realise you were wrong...you have no idea how long they searched for but it doesn't really matter...the sport is bashing the mccanns and it's the taking part that's important...pathetic

I have spent longer looking for a lost cat than they have apparently spent out there in the Algarve searching for a lost child.  hmm
De troothe has the annoying habit of coming to the surface just when you least expect it!!

Je ne regrette rien!!

stephen25000

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Re: So what actual searching was there?
« Reply #622 on: November 17, 2015, 11:00:57 AM »
Your blindness is startling.

Amaral only questioned the McCann's AFTER the dogs went in.   He then concocted a theory which would match what the dogs found.   He said there was 100% DNA of Madeleine found in 5a which was rubbish.

They DID search,  for gods sake what is wrong with you?   

There was no evidence of abduction.

The parents in any case such as this would be investigated.

Get real Lace.

Offline Lace

Re: So what actual searching was there?
« Reply #623 on: November 17, 2015, 11:01:19 AM »

are you for real

so you think also ...they loved her enough to loose her .....they failed to protect her .....left her in an unlocked room

one way street in UK ...you have to support the mccs .....so i wouldn't think if i was you they have as much support as you think....

no one saw them searching for that hour ..............so who knows that they did ...[oh yes k remembers it in her book]

IMO .....they didn't search ....because they knew they would not find her

Are YOU for real,  you think they WANTED to lose her do you?

Yes they left her they shouldn't have,  they made a massive wrong decision,  but that does not mean they did not love her.

There was no INTENT as the final statement said,  they did not go out to cause Madeleine danger,  they did not want Madeleine to come to harm.   Is that clear enough for you?

Whether or not anyone saw them searching in that hour doesn't mean they didn't they said they did the friends looked after the twins so they could search,  so ask the friends,  I don't see why the friends would lie.

Your last sentence is really silly,  they DID search.

If they had wanted to put on a big show to make out they were searching for a child they knew was dead then they would have,  instead they did what all normal parents do,  they searched the area where they thought Madeleine would have gone,  they waited for the police.   They went out again in the early morning,  then waited for the police,  after all it was the police who could do a proper search for Madeleine it was important that the information was given to the police.

Offline xtina

Re: So what actual searching was there?
« Reply #624 on: November 17, 2015, 11:01:58 AM »
Why not - there is no evidence at all from the people who knew the McCanns that they were anything other than normal loving parents - and  there are plenty of photographs and videos evidence to show that Madeleine had a lovely life - in fact some would say a privileged life compared to some chidren.   

None of the witnesses who knew the family had a bad word to say about them as parents - and no-one has ever come out of the woodwork to say otherwise.     And believe you me - if the press could have found someone to do that - it would have been splashed all over their  front pages.

None of what happened in PdL can alter any of that IMO.

You might as well claim that Sara Paynes family were delinquent as they left their children on their own for hours without a thought for any dangers they were placing them  - and  then claim that by doing that -  it cancelled out any idea that they were normal loving parents before that fateful day.

Utter nonsense IMO.

 

Utter nonsense IMO.


referring to your post ...i can only agree


no comparasing ....the paynes children were not 2 3 year old
Always listen to both sides of the story before you judge.

The first storyteller you will always find has modified the story, for there benefit BE WISE.

Offline Lace

Re: So what actual searching was there?
« Reply #625 on: November 17, 2015, 11:02:02 AM »
I have spent longer looking for a lost cat than they have apparently spent out there in the Algarve searching for a lost child.  hmm


Don't be ridiculous.

stephen25000

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Re: So what actual searching was there?
« Reply #626 on: November 17, 2015, 11:02:39 AM »
I have spent longer looking for a lost cat than they have apparently spent out there in the Algarve searching for a lost child.  hmm

Nice one Angelo. 8((()*/

Offline Angelo222

Re: So what actual searching was there?
« Reply #627 on: November 17, 2015, 11:05:15 AM »
I think that is OK do you know that parents of another child who was abducted and murdered also searched for just over an hour and that was OK too.

They searched where Madeleine had been that week,   THEN just as ALL parents of missing children they WAITED FOR THE POLICE.

The following morning they searched again for an hour,  the police were due back so they again waited for the police to arrive then went to the station.

For some reason you are trying to make out that the McCann's have behaved differently to other parents whose children have gone missing,   they didn't.

And then they criticised the police for doing their job eventually failing to cooperate fully with the enquiry even though said police were following normal procedures.

So behaved differently is a no brainer.
De troothe has the annoying habit of coming to the surface just when you least expect it!!

Je ne regrette rien!!

Offline Benice

Re: So what actual searching was there?
« Reply #628 on: November 17, 2015, 11:09:24 AM »
Utter nonsense IMO.


referring to your post ...i can only agree


no comparasing ....the paynes children were not 2 3 year old

No they were not - but that didn't stop one of them being adbucted did it? 
The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

Offline pathfinder73

Re: So what actual searching was there?
« Reply #629 on: November 17, 2015, 11:09:31 AM »
A paragraph from Kate's book,  that you probably haven't read -


We  had decided it would further our cause to visit one or two key countries ourselves and appeal personally to their people for help,  seeking assistance and advice from politicians and children's charities.  We wanted to reach some of the hundreds of potential witnesses from elsewhere on the continent who had been on holiday in the Algarve around the time of Madeleine's disappearance.  Perhaps even more importantly, it was quite possible that Madeleine was in another country now.  Had anyone noticed a little girl who seemed out of place, or somebody behaving suspiciously?

You see Stephen,  they were thinking more intensely about finding Madeleine, than just relying on the media.

The visit to America was to discuss the Amber alert.

That looks good but equally it could be a wild goose chase if they are involved. Take the attention away from them about leaving their young kids in an unsecured apartment.

Madeleine’s Eye Holds Vital Clue
Updated: 18:00, Saturday May 12, 2007

Madeleine McCann’s family believe a new picture of the missing four-year-old could play a vital role in the search for her.

The photo of the youngster shows clearly the her distinctive right eye, where the pupil runs into the blue-green iris.



Gerry says, the iris “is Madeleine’s only true distinctive feature. Certainly we thought it was possible that this could potentially hurt her or”—he grimaces—“her abductor might do something to her eye.… But in terms of marketing, it was a good ploy.”
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.