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Offline Lace

Re: So what actual searching was there?
« Reply #720 on: November 18, 2015, 11:48:35 AM »
How very odd that he only makes this observation many months later, after they have been made arguidos... &%+((£

Yes,   well it does make you wonder doesn't it.   All the other witnesses' saying they were crying uncontrollably,  though they could have been trying to put on a brave face for the police,  they did go into another room to cry when the police were there.

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Offline Lace

Re: So what actual searching was there?
« Reply #721 on: November 18, 2015, 11:50:19 AM »
Thanks for that Pathfinder.

I wou!d say that shows tremendous guilt over what they did.

Really?   how do you come to that conclusion?    and what did they do?

Offline Lace

Re: So what actual searching was there?
« Reply #722 on: November 18, 2015, 12:06:31 PM »
Didn't a policeman see Kate and Gerry out searching at 6am that morning?

Was it this Policeman Alfred,   he saw them at 7 so probably coming back from their search -


 Date: 27/05/16

 Witness Statement

 Paolo Jorge Fernandes Neto

 GNR Officer

 He has been a GNR officer since 2002.

 On the night of 4th May at 01.00 after having begun duty at his post, he first heard, from the Patrol Commander, Officer Casimiro, that a girl had disappeared and that he to go and join his colleagues who were there.

 At about 01.05-01.20 they arrived at the site. They went to Sergeant Duarte, Commander of the Lagos GNR division, who was on the corner pavement between Rua Agostinho da Silva and Rua Francisco Gentil Martins, where they were informed about the disappearance of a little girl from an apartment at the OC tourist complex.

 Afterwards they received a photograph of Madeleine McCann and received orders to search the whole of the Rua da Ramalhete and the access points to Quinta da Bela Vista.

 They did not enter the apartment zone nor the parking area opposite.

 The patrol he was a member of did not contact anyone, nor were they approached by anyone.

 He saw many people, mainly British, who were helping with the searching.

 At about 02.15-02.30 and after having helped his colleagues from the PJ who had arrived at the site, they contacted the Commander again and were told to search the area surrounding the resort.

 During this search they were approached by two people, one, a Portuguese individual who worked at the Mirage Complex, who asked if they knew anything yet, and by a female who was with the individual and who participated in the conversation.

 They were in the area until about 09.00 searching in coordination with GNR team members, at which time they were relieved by other officers who came on duty.

  He remembers that he saw the McCann couple at about 07.00 alone in the street next to the site where they were stationed.

 He did not enter the apartment where the disappearance took place.

 Reads, signs, ratifies.

Offline G-Unit

Re: So what actual searching was there?
« Reply #723 on: November 18, 2015, 12:20:14 PM »
Gerry threw himself at the officers feet as he was so relieved they had arrived,   he was distraught and frantic waiting for them.

The McCann's lying on the bed crying and praying might have seemed odd to them,  but it doesn't to many who could understand the sheer panic,  helplessness and desperation they were feeling.

It's great how some people believe they understand exactly how the McCanns felt that night and why. Different interpretations are possible, and no-one's opinion can be proved to be the correct one.
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Offline Brietta

Re: So what actual searching was there?
« Reply #724 on: November 18, 2015, 12:45:00 PM »
Gerry threw himself at the officers feet as he was so relieved they had arrived,   he was distraught and frantic waiting for them.

The McCann's lying on the bed crying and praying might have seemed odd to them,  but it doesn't to many who could understand the sheer panic,  helplessness and desperation they were feeling.

I understand that on occasion such is the distress of parents in similar circumstances that sedation is required.

I find it rather odd that the McCann distress has been caricatured in the way it was in the Amaral 'documentary' ... I find it rather odd that fictionalised representation of their distress is being used by posters as a stick to beat them with in the more sophisticated environment of modern media.

I find it decidedly odd that it has managed to rear its two large bottoms on a thread where we are supposed to be discussing searches ... but there you go and here we are ... again.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Alfred R Jones

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Re: So what actual searching was there?
« Reply #725 on: November 18, 2015, 01:06:29 PM »
It's great how some people believe they understand exactly how the McCanns felt that night and why. Different interpretations are possible, and no-one's opinion can be proved to be the correct one.
But you seem quite certain that they had no empathy at all for their own missing daughter!  Go figure...

Offline G-Unit

Re: So what actual searching was there?
« Reply #726 on: November 18, 2015, 01:14:34 PM »
But you seem quite certain that they had no empathy at all for their own missing daughter!  Go figure...

If they had they didn't look for her. Screaming and crying helps no-one.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: So what actual searching was there?
« Reply #727 on: November 18, 2015, 01:22:36 PM »
It's great how some people believe they understand exactly how the McCanns felt that night and why. Different interpretations are possible, and no-one's opinion can be proved to be the correct one.

my interpretation is of devastated parents who believe their daughter has been abducted...and it seems SY agree....
who agrees with your intepretation

Alfred R Jones

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Re: So what actual searching was there?
« Reply #728 on: November 18, 2015, 01:28:49 PM »
If they had they didn't look for her. Screaming and crying helps no-one.
They did look for her, and screaming and crying is an understanadable response, although not apparently to you and the GNR policeman who made his statement about it.  Perhaps it is not the McCanns who lack empathy...

stephen25000

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Re: So what actual searching was there?
« Reply #729 on: November 18, 2015, 01:40:12 PM »
my interpretation is of devastated parents who believe their daughter has been abducted...and it seems SY agree....
who agrees with your intepretation

Stating they believe she was abducted is hardly surprising.

Anything else would land them in hot water.

stephen25000

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Re: So what actual searching was there?
« Reply #730 on: November 18, 2015, 01:41:03 PM »
But you seem quite certain that they had no empathy at all for their own missing daughter!  Go figure...

A 1 hour stroll to look for their daughter.

Go figure.......

Offline Brietta

Re: So what actual searching was there?
« Reply #731 on: November 18, 2015, 01:54:28 PM »
It just doesn't happen that a stranger enters a residence where children are having a slumber party ... bind them ... put pillowslips over their heads ... and kidnap one of their number.
All while the parents sleep soundly under the same roof.  Far too risky.

But that is exactly what happened to Polly Klaas.

Polly disappeared from her bedroom leaving other children behind.
Madeleine disappeared from her bedroom leaving other children behind.

Polly's abduction was witnessed ... and as soon as the alarm was raised the search for her initiated.
Madeleine's abductor may have been witnessed ... and as soon as the alarm was raised ... it seems her parents' fears that she had been abducted fell on deaf ears.



How long would it have taken Polly Klaas's parents to search an area of "1000 square miles of apple orchards, fields, oak savannahs and redwood stands".

Or take a plane to do an aerial survey of over 3000 square miles of territory at the same time as recording everything on CAD maps.

Is there any criticism of them if they did not ... or any criticism of them or suggestion that they should have.




**Snip
Two weeks after Polly's kidnapping, her mother Eve Nichol was quoted by the Press Democrat (Dec. 10, 1993) as saying,
                                         
                                               "I have a daughter out there--without shoes."

Her expression of pure motherhood brought the situation into perspective. While there were many, many people who cared for Polly and searched for Polly, this little girl would always be the beloved daughter of her very own parents.

A candle burned in her window for nine weeks. The flame was extinguished when they were told her remains had been found.                 http://www.pollyklaas.org/about/pollys-story.html


In very much the same way that Kate McCann's little girl ... "out there -- without shoes" ... is beloved by her parents who have never ever stopped searching for her.

To claim otherwise is nonsense.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline pathfinder73

Re: So what actual searching was there?
« Reply #732 on: November 18, 2015, 02:07:27 PM »
A 1 hour stroll to look for their daughter.

Go figure.......

Anybody out searching also had the opportunity to conceal if they knew where she was.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Alfred R Jones

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Re: So what actual searching was there?
« Reply #733 on: November 18, 2015, 02:19:06 PM »
Anybody out searching also had the opportunity to conceal if they knew where she was.
And how would they go about doing that with the place crawling with police and dogs?

Offline pathfinder73

Re: So what actual searching was there?
« Reply #734 on: November 18, 2015, 02:29:53 PM »
And how would they go about doing that with the place crawling with police and dogs?

Choose a time when there wasn't.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.