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Alfred R Jones

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Re: So what actual searching was there?
« Reply #870 on: November 20, 2015, 10:08:48 PM »
Just read back through all the threads until July 2014 ish you will find them.
But then it's good to know that honcho II also agrees with salient points of the case.
so, as I suspected, you are unable to.

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: So what actual searching was there?
« Reply #871 on: November 20, 2015, 11:19:09 PM »
so, as I suspected, you are unable to.

Unable to, can't be arsed to or it is not necessary to;? take your pick.
But if you read through the threads you will find some if you can be arsed  8(0(*
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Alfred R Jones

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Re: So what actual searching was there?
« Reply #872 on: November 20, 2015, 11:22:31 PM »
Unable to, can't be arsed to or it is not necessary to;? take your pick.
But if you read through the threads you will find some if you can be arsed  8(0(*
I've read plenty of posts on this forum in the last year or more and have never seen any, so can only conclude that you're talking rubbish.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: So what actual searching was there?
« Reply #873 on: November 21, 2015, 08:15:37 AM »
I've read plenty of posts on this forum in the last year or more and have never seen any, so can only conclude that you're talking rubbish.

agreed

Offline Benice

Re: So what actual searching was there?
« Reply #874 on: November 21, 2015, 09:01:34 AM »
Had it been my kid I would be out there every day asking around, putting up posters, making sure the cops were on their toes and garnering further support from the locals but...

How would you deal with the scores of reporters/photographers who were being starved of info from the PJ and who were camped on your doorstop waiting for you to emerge - so that they could fire questions at you and take pictures to send back to their editors?   You would need a police escort to prevent you from being mobbed by them imo.

How could you garner further support from the locals when you didn't speak the language and were not allowed to  discuss the case anyway - as that would be breaking the secrecy laws? 

What is it that you could actually do yourself  to make sure the cops were 'on their toes' when you were not being told what they were doing in the first place?      And wouldn't the PJ be insulted by the inference that it was necessary for someone to make sure they were kept 'on their toes' - as that in itself suggests they were not up to the job imo.


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stephen25000

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Re: So what actual searching was there?
« Reply #875 on: November 21, 2015, 09:10:52 AM »
How would you deal with the scores of reporters/photographers who were being starved of info from the PJ and who were camped on your doorstop waiting for you to emerge - so that they could fire questions at you and take pictures to send back to their editors?   You would need a police escort to prevent you from being mobbed by them imo.

How could you garner further support from the locals when you didn't speak the language and were not allowed to  discuss the case anyway - as that would be breaking the secrecy laws? 

What is it that you could actually do yourself  to make sure the cops were 'on their toes' when you were not being told what they were doing in the first place?      And wouldn't the PJ be insulted by the inference that it was necessary for someone to make sure they were kept 'on their toes' - as that in itself suggests they were not up to the job imo.

Ah, IMO yet again.

The mccanns courted publicity, as can be seen from many of the photographs. They enjoyed it.

As to the Police, they were doing their job.

Classic mccann supporter tactic, attack the PJ.

Offline Lace

Re: So what actual searching was there?
« Reply #876 on: November 21, 2015, 09:12:44 AM »
Had it been my kid I would be out there every day asking around, putting up posters, making sure the cops were on their toes and garnering further support from the locals but...

John,   everyone knows what they would do after an event don't they.   

It's fine to say you would be out there every day asking around,   asking where?   who?   Could they speak Portuguese?    Kerry Needham tried knocking on doors,   they shut their doors in her face,  frightened no doubt by seeing a frantic woman gabbling in a language they couldn't understand.

It was the job of the police to ask around and do door to door.

As to posters,   I seem to remember a photograph of the McCann's with a massive poster on the beach.   There were posters in shop windows,  everywhere you went according to Raymond Hewlett,  who said that is how he knew Madeleine McCann.

As to keeping the police on their toes,  how do you expect them to have done that?     They had to write a letter asking for information,   they didn't get a reply.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: So what actual searching was there?
« Reply #877 on: November 21, 2015, 09:28:56 AM »
Ah, IMO yet again.

The mccanns courted publicity, as can be seen from many of the photographs. They enjoyed it.

As to the Police, they were doing their job.

Classic mccann supporter tactic, attack the PJ.

we know the mccanns courted publicity...I wouldn't say they enjoyed it

Offline Lace

Re: So what actual searching was there?
« Reply #878 on: November 21, 2015, 09:57:19 AM »
Ah, IMO yet again.

The mccanns courted publicity, as can be seen from many of the photographs. They enjoyed it.

As to the Police, they were doing their job.

Classic mccann supporter tactic, attack the PJ.

Make up your mind Stephen,  one minute you are saying the McCann's didn't care enough to search for their daughter,   next minute you are saying they courted publicity,  by doing the only thing they could do to find Madeleine and that was to put her name out there,  keep her in the news keep her face in the newspapers.


Offline Lace

Re: So what actual searching was there?
« Reply #879 on: November 21, 2015, 09:59:26 AM »
we know the mccanns courted publicity...I wouldn't say they enjoyed it

Ah but Stephen thinks they enjoyed having to keep Madeleine's face in the news,  rather than have her with them as part of their family.   What a way to think.


stephen25000

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Re: So what actual searching was there?
« Reply #880 on: November 21, 2015, 10:05:15 AM »
Ah but Stephen thinks they enjoyed having to keep Madeleine's face in the news,  rather than have her with them as part of their family.   What a way to think.

Wrong yet again.

I said the mccanns enjoyed and courted publicity.

Do keep up.

stephen25000

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Re: So what actual searching was there?
« Reply #881 on: November 21, 2015, 10:16:37 AM »
For example.



Gloria Hunniford and Fiona Phillips join McCanns at fundraiser to mark '1,000 days of agony' since Maddie vanished

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1246595/Kate-Gerry-McCann-host-star-studded-fundraiser-mark-1-000th-day-daughter-Maddie-went-missing.html#ixzz3s7UhemsR
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Now that's what I call searching. £4%4%
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Offline Brietta

Re: So what actual searching was there?
« Reply #882 on: November 21, 2015, 10:49:35 AM »
John,   everyone knows what they would do after an event don't they.   

It's fine to say you would be out there every day asking around,   asking where?   who?   Could they speak Portuguese?    Kerry Needham tried knocking on doors,   they shut their doors in her face,  frightened no doubt by seeing a frantic woman gabbling in a language they couldn't understand.

It was the job of the police to ask around and do door to door.

As to posters,   I seem to remember a photograph of the McCann's with a massive poster on the beach.   There were posters in shop windows,  everywhere you went according to Raymond Hewlett,  who said that is how he knew Madeleine McCann.

As to keeping the police on their toes,  how do you expect them to have done that?     They had to write a letter asking for information,   they didn't get a reply.

They really do look as if they are having the time of their lives, don't they!!


If there is a better way of looking for Madeleine than publicising her and keeping people aware that she is missing, perhaps someone could let us know exactly what it is.

If there is a better way of looking for Madeleine than having the official decision to write her off both here and in Portugal overturned through years of hard work and lobbying, perhaps someone would be kind enough to say what it is.

One would mistakenly have thought that after all the years of opprobrium they have suffered as a result of searching for their child using whatever means they could there would have been some let up when they achieved their aim of having the investigation into her disappearance reopened.

Nowt as queer as folk ... seems appropriate ... it is almost as if there are those out there who share the same aim as the abductor/s.  Can't be right surely?
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

stephen25000

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Re: So what actual searching was there?
« Reply #883 on: November 21, 2015, 10:56:07 AM »
They really do look as if they are having the time of their lives, don't they!!


If there is a better way of looking for Madeleine than publicising her and keeping people aware that she is missing, perhaps someone could let us know exactly what it is.

If there is a better way of looking for Madeleine than having the official decision to write her off both here and in Portugal overturned through years of hard work and lobbying, perhaps someone would be kind enough to say what it is.

One would mistakenly have thought that after all the years of opprobrium they have suffered as a result of searching for their child using whatever means they could there would have been some let up when they achieved their aim of having the investigation into her disappearance reopened.

Nowt as queer as folk ... seems appropriate ... it is almost as if there are those out there who share the same aim as the abductor/s.  Can't be right surely?

Wow, I never knew that , Madeleine is missing.

'Nowt as queer as folk ... seems appropriate ... it is almost as if there are those out there who share the same aim as the abductor/s.  Can't be right surely?'

Out comes the 'abductor'.


Rolled out every time, despite the lack of any evidence to show it happened.


Offline Brietta

Re: So what actual searching was there?
« Reply #884 on: November 21, 2015, 10:56:58 AM »
For example.



Gloria Hunniford and Fiona Phillips join McCanns at fundraiser to mark '1,000 days of agony' since Maddie vanished

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1246595/Kate-Gerry-McCann-host-star-studded-fundraiser-mark-1-000th-day-daughter-Maddie-went-missing.html#ixzz3s7UhemsR
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Now that's what I call searching. £4%4%

Indeed it is searching of the highest calibre ... great you recognise that.

**Snip
The McCanns said it sometimes felt wrong that they were coping with life without Madeleine - but added that otherwise there would be no search for the little girl.

In a poignant statement they said: 'Today marks 1,000 days since Madeleine was taken from us. It's hard to even say the number.
'We remember the first few days after Madeleine was taken, watching the clock and counting every hour. Now we've reached 1,000 days.
'It's difficult sometimes to understand how we've been able to keep going and survive without Madeleine, especially since nothing has changed since that terrifying first night.

'Madeleine is still missing. Sometimes it even feels wrong to be coping.

'And yet if we weren't, there would be no search and no campaign to find Madeleine and that just doesn't bear thinking about.'


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1246595/Kate-Gerry-McCann-host-star-studded-fundraiser-mark-1-000th-day-daughter-Maddie-went-missing.html#ixzz3s7dLkz5G
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....