So what actual searching was there?

[Alice Purjorick]

I have explained to you many times that a  belief is not a fact...but often belief is all the police have to go on. even if a case goes to court the verdict is based on what the jury believe

Very true. For this case to go to court we will need a perpetrator to be charged in Portugal.
First catch your perp.

[Mr Gray]

Not one iota..especially since Redwood destroyed the main circumstancial piece of evidence aka tannerman...then there was nothing left..absolutely nothing at all

I wouldn't agree at all...if you accept tannerman as circumstantial evidence ...which you have...then smithman is evidence too...and there is more..again...SY's opinion is abduction based on the evidence

[Mr Gray]

Very true. For this case to go to court we will need a perpetrator to be charged in Portugal.
First catch your perp.

the case could go to court in the UK  IF the McCanns were charged with fraud...to me that idea is absurd

[mercury]

Very true. For this case to go to court we will need a perpetrator to be charged in Portugal.
First catch your perp.

If there isnt one its gonna be a bit hard i suppose.....maybe.....

[pegasus]

The apartment was not completely searched at 10 nor at 11 IMO.

[misty]

The apartment was not completely searched at 10 nor at 11 IMO.

Which place that concealed a living child, who was never seen again,  was overlooked in your opinion?

[pegasus]

Which place that concealed a living child, who was never seen again,  was overlooked in your opinion?

In the statements there are several places no-one mentions searching. Behind sofa "E" is one, and there are others. If a child is not awake it is very easy to search assuming they are awake and overlook them. There are many other cases where this has happened (completely missed in the early search and then found hours later under a beanbag or in a kitchen cupboard or in a suitcase or under a bed or in a chest of drawers - all real case BTW).

[misty]

In the statements there are several places no-one mentions searching. Behind sofa "E" is one, and there are others. If a child is not awake it is very easy to search assuming they are awake and overlook them. There are many other cases where this has happened (completely missed in the early search and then found hours later under a beanbag or in a kitchen cupboard or in a suitcase or under a bed or in a chest of drawers - all real case BTW).

From just after 10pm, there was always someone in the apartment until the CSI duo departed (3am?) & then there was supposedly a GNR officer guarding the scene until morning.
I understand the implications of the other cases, but the apartment was so compact...and rather noisy for periods of time....I just don't see that a living child wouldn't have been discovered.

[pegasus]

From just after 10pm, there was always someone in the apartment until the CSI duo departed (3am?) & then there was supposedly a GNR officer guarding the scene until morning.
I understand the implications of the other cases, but the apartment was so compact...and rather noisy for periods of time....I just don't see that a living child wouldn't have been discovered.

Other cases include compact residences with searchers continuously in them. Often a searcher has actually looked in the exact place where the child is but has failed to see them. That happened in the beanbag case and suitcase case and kitchencupboard case.

[pegasus]

Here is a case where a searcher even looks in exactly the correct place but fails to look properly. 
"he had already checked the suitcase for his daughter, but failed to spot her"
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1195223/Missing-year-old-home-asleep-suitcase.html

[pegasus]

Another suitcase case. Four hours after the house had supposedly been completely searched - and while search parties and a police helicopter were scouring the surrounding areas,
"a policeman saw the case in an upstairs room bouncing around on its own"
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-516770/Jamie-Lee-6-sparks-police-hunt-falling-asleep-suitcase-grandpas-house.html

[mercury]

Failing to see what  a missed child  in a house  search could mean in this  case...

[G-Unit]

Another suitcase case. Four hours after the house had supposedly been completely searched - and while search parties and a police helicopter were scouring the surrounding areas,
"a policeman saw the case in an upstairs room bouncing around on its own"
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-516770/Jamie-Lee-6-sparks-police-hunt-falling-asleep-suitcase-grandpas-house.html

Do you think she's still in the apartment then pegasus?

[pegasus]

Do you think she's still in the apartment then pegasus?

Now? No. The only remote possibility there would be if there is some undiscovered cavity for example for services in the large volume of presumably completely filled subfloor which results from the north to south slope of the plot

[pegasus]

Failing to see what  a missed child  in a house  search could mean in this  case...

There was a police search of the residence at about 2315 which was IMO rushed and incomplete, so how can anyone possibly claim to know there was nothing there then, when they didn't look everywhere? The assumption "oh someone's searched the residence already so there is definitely nothing there so no point in searching it again" has been the embarrassing failure of search in many other real cases.