So what actual searching was there?

[faithlilly]

That's because supporters see themselves as part of some extended family with special insight and the sceptics are the barbarians at the gates.
I think there is a long convoluted psychological explanation for the phenomenon.

No doubt Alice, no doubt !

[Brietta]

The thread is about SEARCHING.  Please may we have an attempt to stay on topic.

[pegasus]

Search is controlled by assumptions - probably no-one wasted time searching the top cupboards of the wardrobes?

[mercury]

Search is controlled by assumptions - probably no-one wasted time searching the top cupboards of the wardrobes?

What you say about assumptions is right but, in what situation would a child end up in a top wardrobe cupboard??

[pegasus]

What you say about assumptions is right but, in what situation would a child end up in a top wardrobe cupboard??

A search that claims to be complete, but leaves out places because they don't fit assumptions, is incomplete.

[mercury]

A search that claims to be complete, but leaves out places because they don't fit assumptions, is incomplete.

My question was who would put a child in the top part of a wardrobe, an interrupted burglar?

[pegasus]

My question was who would put a child in the top part of a wardrobe, an interrupted burglar?

Completely theoretically, yes. But why waste time deciding which 50% of places in a residence to search and which 50% to not search because of assumptions? It's quicker to just do a complete search, without assumptions.

[mercury]

Completely theoretically, yes. But why waste time deciding which 50% of places in a residence to search and which 50% to not search because of assumptions? It's quicker to just do a complete search, without assumptions.

The police searched more than 50 per cent pegasus

Wheres youre 50 per cent? Top of wardrobes, behind bath panel and?

End of the day the child was not there (unless u thnk she might still be there) so isnt it academic? Its late, laters

[xtina]

What?

sorry about that ....edited it now how it should have read....


Quote from: Benice on June 09, 2016, 10:52:47 AM
Has this man ever met or spoken to the McCanns?  Some of his statements are opinions which many other people would not agree with - including the experts who unlike that person  - actually spent time with the McCanns and found nothing suspicious whatsoever with their reactions or behaviour.  Does this Dr. not know the therapeutic and stress busting effects of jogging for instance?

If you don't think those parents of other abducted children are the 'real' experts then that's your prerogative.   IMO no-one can possibly know better than THEY do about every last single terrible effect this nightmare experience has on the parents.     And  I repeat - if anyone could spot a fake it would be those people.  Any claim that they could not -  is insulting to them IMO.

is insulting to them ........well not as insulting as you ....dragging the mccs ...into those parents of abducted children who have there own grief ......there own loss...who have enough to contend with that...

without the mccs being poked down there throat every touch and turn ...like yourself...is doing

[Alfie]

Search is controlled by assumptions - probably no-one wasted time searching the top cupboards of the wardrobes?

How do you imagine Madeleine got into the top cupboard of the wardrobe?

[Benice]

sorry about that ....edited it now how it should have read....


Quote from: Benice on June 09, 2016, 10:52:47 AM
Has this man ever met or spoken to the McCanns?  Some of his statements are opinions which many other people would not agree with - including the experts who unlike that person  - actually spent time with the McCanns and found nothing suspicious whatsoever with their reactions or behaviour.  Does this Dr. not know the therapeutic and stress busting effects of jogging for instance?

If you don't think those parents of other abducted children are the 'real' experts then that's your prerogative.   IMO no-one can possibly know better than THEY do about every last single terrible effect this nightmare experience has on the parents.     And  I repeat - if anyone could spot a fake it would be those people.  Any claim that they could not -  is insulting to them IMO.

is insulting to them ........well not as insulting as you ....dragging the mccs ...into those parents of abducted children who have there own grief ......there own loss...who have enough to contend with that...

without the mccs being poked down there throat every touch and turn ...like yourself...is doing

Typical -  you can't challenge the post - so you attack the poster.

Your apparent determination to believe that none of the parents of other abducted children  ( like Coral Jones for instance ) - could possibly believe and support the McCanns is misplaced IMO as there is not a shred of evidence to support it. 

'Wishful thinking' that they share your own very obvious extreme animosity towards the McCanns and need to be 'protected' from any association with them is not evidence.

AIMHO

[Benice]

Oh purleeeeeeeeeeeez stop it already.  If you saw your friends daughter being ABDUCTED you wouldn't say anything just in case the anductor brought her back ?- now why on earth go to all the trouble of abducting her to take her back? Bejeezuz Why did Jane not shout to Gerry and Jes  oh look Maddie is being abducted. I just can't believe the bullsh  rubbish I have to read on here.

Your comment makes no sense.    Jayne had no reason to believe the man she saw was abducting Madeleine  until after she had disappeared.  Why would she?   She told the police immediately - and that was the most important thing to do at that time.

If you don't believe that during those first hours - everyone was hoping she would be found - then that is not my problem.

If you don't believe that abducted children have ever been found and returned to their parents - then that is not my problem either.

AIMHO

[xtina]

Typical -  you can't challenge the post - so you attack the poster.

Your apparent determination to believe that none of the parents of other abducted children  ( like Coral Jones for instance ) - could possibly believe and support the McCanns is misplaced IMO as there is not a shred of evidence to support it. 

'Wishful thinking' that they share your own very obvious extreme animosity towards the McCanns and need to be 'protected' from any association with them is not evidence.

AIMHO

okaaaaaay..................now who have i attacked ..for a kick off

as for challenging your post ............did i not reply

what you can't grasp it works both ways......

you called me insulting......insulting the parents of abducted children

you said .......there support for the mccs ......is compelling evidence...

you don't know ........what they think or there opinion   in R L

they have there own loss.....and unless you know them personally... how they feel about the mccs or have proof


or have proof........... you are wrong ...producing that as fact....

this is a maddie mccann ...discussion

don't involve other peoples grief to suit .........your agenda...or abduction


it has nothing to do with searching for maddie anyway..............something they personally never did

[pegasus]

How do you imagine Madeleine got into the top cupboard of the wardrobe?

No idea Alfie. But a search that didn't look in any of the four top cupboards was very incomplete.

[Alfie]

No idea Alfie. But a search that didn't look in any of the four top cupboards was very incomplete.

I don't suppose they looked in the fridge or the oven either.