So what actual searching was there?

[Benice]

There is no verification that the shutters or windows were moved before 10 pm.

Likewise, AS CLAIMED, the shutters were not jemmied.

There is no evidence of a break in, in the apartment.

As to SY , it is abundantly clear the investigation has achieved NOTHING.

Do keep up.

No need to be rude.

According to recent discussions on here  -  anything said by the family and friends about the shutters is 'hearsay' anyway - so not relevant as evidence of anything at all.

You keep forgetting that even if no evidence was recovered  - that is  not proof that none ever existed in the first place - but which may have been destroyed or even overlooked by some less than efficient forensic bods.  Something which Amaral himself commented on re the person testing for fingerprints.

[stephen25000]

No need to be rude.

According to recent discussions on here  -  anything said by the family and friends about the shutters is 'hearsay' anyway - so not relevant as evidence of anything at all.

You keep forgetting that even if no evidence was recovered  - that is  not proof that none ever existed in the first place - but which may have been destroyed or even overlooked by some less than efficient forensic bods.  Something which Amaral himself commented on re the person testing for fingerprints.

Yet again Benice, as regarding 'lack of evidence', then that applies to accidental death.

A point I note you have never answered.

[Brietta]

“Neither her parents or any of the members of the group that were with her are either persons of interest or suspects”
 ~ DCI Andy Redwood

One concrete clue from the night Madeleine was abducted was the sighting of a man carrying a child in the vicinity of the McCann apartment and walking briskly away from it.

He had come from somewhere ... he was going somewhere.  But for days the police concentrated their search on looking for a child who 'woke and wandered'.

[Lace]

It's about time you and your fellows spouted abductor as a fact.

It most certainly isn't.

Which experts on abduction are you referring to ?

Don't use that aggressive manner with me please.

SY are the experts Stephen otherwise they wouldn't be investigating the McCann case.

[stephen25000]

Don't use that aggressive manner with me please.

SY are the experts Stephen otherwise they wouldn't be investigating the McCann case.

What aggressive manner Lace ?

It's not me who is saying abduction as a fact.

Can you tell me what exactly SY have found  ?

[Lace]

What aggressive manner Lace ?

It's not me who is saying abduction as a fact.

Can you tell me what exactly SY have found  ?

Of course I can't tell you what they have found they haven't told the public anything,  which is as it should be,  they are still investigating.

[stephen25000]

Of course I can't tell you what they have found they haven't told the public anything,  which is as it should be,  they are still investigating.

In Portugal Lace ?

Or in a comfortable office reading files and going nowhere ?

[Lace]

In Portugal Lace ?

Or in a comfortable office reading files and going nowhere ?

I am not a detective,  nor do I pretend to be,  neither are you all you can do is speculate and by the looks of it revel in your view that the investigation is going nowhere,  why you find that so satisfying is beyond me.

[Wonderfulspam]

No need to be rude.

According to recent discussions on here  -  anything said by the family and friends about the shutters is 'hearsay' anyway - so not relevant as evidence of anything at all.

You keep forgetting that even if no evidence was recovered  - that is  not proof that none ever existed in the first place - but which may have been destroyed or even overlooked by some less than efficient forensic bods.  Something which Amaral himself commented on re the person testing for fingerprints.

Benice's Celestial Teapot.

Ok, I'll word it differently, seeing as though it so upset some wimp.

"You keep forgetting that even if no evidence was recovered  - that is  not proof that none ever existed in the first place"


"You keep forgetting that even if no evidence of the McCanns involvement in Madeleine's disappearence was recovered----that doesn't mean it wasn't them that dunnit".


 

[G-Unit]

“Neither her parents or any of the members of the group that were with her are either persons of interest or suspects”
 ~ DCI Andy Redwood

One concrete clue from the night Madeleine was abducted was the sighting of a man carrying a child in the vicinity of the McCann apartment and walking briskly away from it.

He had come from somewhere ... he was going somewhere.  But for days the police concentrated their search on looking for a child who 'woke and wandered'.

The GNR, whose responsibility it was, searched. The PJ did other things.

[stephen25000]

“Neither her parents or any of the members of the group that were with her are either persons of interest or suspects”
 ~ DCI Andy Redwood

One concrete clue from the night Madeleine was abducted was the sighting of a man carrying a child in the vicinity of the McCann apartment and walking briskly away from it.

He had come from somewhere ... he was going somewhere.  But for days the police concentrated their search on looking for a child who 'woke and wandered'.

Abduction is not a fact.

Time to get over it, and your mantra of abduction.

[stephen25000]

“Neither her parents or any of the members of the group that were with her are either persons of interest or suspects”
 ~ DCI Andy Redwood

One concrete clue from the night Madeleine was abducted was the sighting of a man carrying a child in the vicinity of the McCann apartment and walking briskly away from it.

He had come from somewhere ... he was going somewhere.  But for days the police concentrated their search on looking for a child who 'woke and wandered'.

...and the Mccanns did their final search, the morning after Madeleine disappeared.

[pegasus]

(snip) ..Why, out of curiosity do you think the top ones werent opened?

Because in the PJ crime scene photo taken that night both the top cupboards near the ceiling in the parents bedroom are completely closed. If anyone had searched in them they would be open in the photo.  http://www.mccannfiles.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/10VOLUMEXaPage2562.jpg

[mercury]

Because in the PJ crime scene photo taken that night both the top cupboards near the ceiling in the parents bedroom are completely closed. If anyone had searched in them they would be open in the photo.  http://www.mccannfiles.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/10VOLUMEXaPage2562.jpg

Fair assumption I suppose, though it can't IMO be taken as a cert. Then again, why would any officer look in there. They were looking for a live child hiding afaiaw.

[Mr Gray]

Abduction is not a fact.

Time to get over it, and your mantra of abduction.

I think we have reached the situation where all other options have been excluded and abduction is a fact