So what actual searching was there?

[Robittybob1]

Why is that do you think?

I think it is because it is a conscious decision as to what gets released.

[Eleanor]

I think it is because it is a conscious decision as to what gets released.

And could well have affected public opinion.  Including a Trial, should that ever have happened.  We all know what happened to Leonor Cipriano and her brother.

[G-Unit]

Who fabricated the information contained in the Reports from the Brigade for Information Analysis then?  Which were allegedly taken from official documents and files.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/BRIGADE-OF-INFORMATION.htm

It's not so much a matter of fabrication as information which cannot be confirmed by looking at the source document(s), which is/are not in the files.

[Brietta]

It's not so much a matter of fabrication as information which cannot be confirmed by looking at the source document(s), which is/are not in the files.

Are you suggesting that an analysis of events was conducted from documents which are not in the files despite the fact the analysis is supposedly based on the information in the files?

[G-Unit]

Are you suggesting that an analysis of events was conducted from documents which are not in the files despite the fact the analysis is supposedly based on the information in the files?

The statements given to Control Risks by 5 of the Tapas group and Emma Knight are not in the PJ files.

[Brietta]

The statements given to Control Risks by 5 of the Tapas group and Emma Knight are not in the PJ files.

What exactly does that have to do with the price of beans?

[G-Unit]

What exactly does that have to do with the price of beans?

Nothing as far as I know, but they formed part of the basis for the reports, as did the Berry/Balu statements. Although the UK police were helping the PJ it's not clear whether they shared all the information they gathered.

[Brietta]

Nothing as far as I know, but they formed part of the basis for the reports, as did the Berry/Balu statements. Although the UK police were helping the PJ it's not clear whether they shared all the information they gathered.

Isn't it an amazement how flexible the files can be.  Am I correct in thinking you deny that Berry and Balu encountered and assisted a searching Gerry because it doesn't appear in the files but you accept the analysis of the files saying that Berry and Balu encountered and assisted a searching Gerry?

Please explain how one can carry out an analysis of information if that information does not exist - according to you - in the document analysed?

[Robittybob1]

What exactly does that have to do with the price of beans?

I think it goes to show the released files are not the entire PJ file on the case.

[Brietta]

I think it goes to show the released files are not the entire PJ file on the case.

Agreed Robitty.  The files to which we have access are the tip of the iceberg in my opinion.

[G-Unit]

Isn't it an amazement how flexible the files can be.  Am I correct in thinking you deny that Berry and Balu encountered and assisted a searching Gerry because it doesn't appear in the files but you accept the analysis of the files saying that Berry and Balu encountered and assisted a searching Gerry?

Please explain how one can carry out an analysis of information if that information does not exist - according to you - in the document analysed?

I can't explain why the PJ asked a rogatory question of Balu and Berry which they had already answered, according to the report by analyst 7792 Eaton. That makes me wonder if the PJ saw their first statements to the UK police.

I can't explain why Balu and Berry didn't repeat what they said in their first statements when asked that question in their rogatory interviews, but neither of them mentioned hearing Gerry McCann calling for his daughter.

It's possible that the information was taken from Gerry McCann's statement to Control Risks. Perhaps he assumed they appeared because they'd heard him calling.

[Robittybob1]

I can't explain why the PJ asked a rogatory question of Balu and Berry which they had already answered, according to the report by analyst 7792 Eaton. That makes me wonder if the PJ saw their first statements to the UK police.

I can't explain why Balu and Berry didn't repeat what they said in their first statements when asked that question in their rogatory interviews, but neither of them mentioned hearing Gerry McCann calling for his daughter.

It's possible that the information was taken from Gerry McCann's statement to Control Risks. Perhaps he assumed they appeared because they'd heard him calling.

This fact needs follow up.  I hope OG followed up on the reliability of Balu and Berry.

[Mr Gray]

This fact needs follow up.  I hope OG followed up on the reliability of Balu and Berry.

Again were the first, statements verbatim... And was, everything  they said in those, statements recorded

[Robittybob1]

Again were the first, statements verbatim... And was, everything  they said in those, statements recorded

It would be up to OG to follow this up.  The armchair detectives just don't have enough information.
Everyone there is a potential suspect and if their statements change over time that becomes an inconsistency.

[ShiningInLuz]

p82 "At long last dawn broke."

p83 "As soon as it was light Gerry and I resumed our search."

p83 "The most striking thing about this is we were all alone."

This history is problematic for me.  I have been out in Luz around dawn on multiple occasions, and never once have I experienced such emptiness.

It is a time when the older ex-pats get an early morning stroll in.  It is a time when the dog-walkers socialise on the beach.  It is a time when the câmara workers clear the front up before the majority of early morning ex-pats/tourists mess it up again.  It is a time when the rubbish lorries are trying to clear central bins in Luz before traffic makes it harder.  It is a time when the early-morning cafés are setting up for business.  If the Habana ever gets its webcam working properly again, you can check when its set-up squad goes into work.  I've seen them active before dawn.

It is a very sociable time.  It is considered extremely rude to not exchange conversation with these early morning people.  It is almost like a club - we are the owners of the madrugada (dawn, early morning).