Vila do Bispo in West Portugal becomes a place of interest for the second time.

[G-Unit]

I’m sure the woman he has been with in the past may disagree with you.

You really do think in stereotypes don’t you ?

It's a complex subject. Many people don't realise they're being controlled.

[Eleanor]

I am getting very fed up with the nastiness and snide remarks.  I will be Deleting the entire Comments if this continues.

[faithlilly]

It's a complex subject. Many people don't realise they're being controlled.

Of course it is.

[Holly Goodhead]

Men like him are not inclined to pick strong, intelligent, self-respecting, independent women..
I agree that all types of women can find themselves in an abusive relationship but I refer back to the General's post which suggested that if he had mentioned Madeleine in a worrying context then no strong, independent woman would keep quiet.......my pont was that he was unlikely to be in a relationship with such a woman.

If he did incriminate himself with anyone in the past why would any such person show any loyalty towards him now?  What would prevent them from getting onto the authorities? Maybe it was anticipated the appeal would generate contact from exes or acquaintances.

[Venturi Swirl]

Me - My opinion is that Bruckner is unlikely to have written anything disturbing about Madeleine to past girlfriends and that the request to be sent any correspondence is something routine that is bound to happen in an investigation. The press are the ones again, who present things as significant when they may not be.

and that was my whole point.    ....it's the media that jump on these things and make them seem more significant than they may be.  I was never questioning the German's procedure but you jumped on my comment without really understanding what I was saying.

It wasn’t the media suggesting the letters were full of grisly details, it was you, so whatever point you thought you were making, you failed.

[Venturi Swirl]

I'm often labelled as misogynist by one particular bird on here, but I'd contend that no self-respecting woman (strong, intelligent, independent woman at that) would sit there and let him regale tales of horrific child abuse.

No one is suggesting that happened are they?

[Venturi Swirl]

Was the PJs court application to read the content of deleted texts.
With regards to the deleted call logs Vodafone had supplied a list of calls made and received but I’m not sure if this included the full number and call duration.
The deleted call logs certainly raised a red flag. Why did KM leave GMs 23:17 call in her log but GM deleted it from his?

Let your imagine run riot and come up with a sinister reason for this chain of events, then feel free to share it with us.  I for one would love to know why you would view this as suspicious.

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

Let your imagine run riot and come up with a sinister reason for this chain of events, then feel free to share it with us.  I for one would love to know why you would view this as suspicious.

It was a former US Marshall (McCleish) who reportedly said the deleted calls log raised a red flag. We don’t need to imagine anything. It’s just worthy of investigation like CB’s call in the PDL area on the evening of May 3rd.

Anyway we know it roused suspicion of “manipulation” as the PJ applied to court for more information from Vodafone.

[Venturi Swirl]

It was a former US Marshall (McCleish) who reportedly said the deleted calls log raised a red flag. We don’t need to imagine anything. It’s just worthy of investigation like CB’s call in the PDL area on the evening of May 3rd.

Anyway we know it roused suspicion of “manipulation” as the PJ applied to court for more information from Vodafone.

So you can’t say why it would be suspicious only that it must be because a former US Marshsll said so.  Disappointing.

[The General]

So you can’t say why it would be suspicious only that it must be because a former US Marshsll said so.  Disappointing.

Well it's called being forensically aware in law enforcement parlance.

[Gertrude]

It wasn’t the media suggesting the letters were full of grisly details, it was you, so whatever point you thought you were making, you failed.

Again you've accused me of writing something I didn't. Cite please.

[Venturi Swirl]

Again you've accused me of writing something I didn't. Cite please.

Did you write this?


 “I know he's an arch weirdo but..I find this hard to believe, that he would be bragging about the assault and murder of a small child to multiple girlfriends”

[Gertrude]

Did you write this?


 “I know he's an arch weirdo but. .I find this hard to believe, that he would be bragging about the assault and murder of a small child to multiple girlfriends”

Yes and you wrote this  'It wasn’t the media suggesting the letters were full of grisly details, it was you, so whatever point you thought you were making, you failed./

   I wrote I doubted any letters contain grisly detail..... I'm quite clearly saying the complete opposite of what you've accused me of.

[Venturi Swirl]

Yes and you wrote this  'It wasn’t the media suggesting the letters were full of grisly details, it was you, so whatever point you thought you were making, you failed./

   I wrote I doubted any letters contain grisly detail..... I'm quite clearly saying the complete opposite of what you've accused me of.

You’re doubting the existence of something that was never suggested by the mediai in the first place!  I am quite clearly able to understand your own posts better than you are.

[Gertrude]

You’re doubting the existence of something that was never suggested by the mediai in the first place!  I am quite clearly able to understand your own posts better than you are.

No you really aren't and you're being very condescending in my view. I said the request would be routine not that I believe letters exist or not. I also said....

'Bruckner is unlikely to have written anything disturbing about Madeleine to past girlfriends '

Yet you have decided that is me suggesting the letters contain 'grisly details'. How is that possible if I think any letters would not contain detail of an assault?