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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #1485 on: April 22, 2019, 08:06:40 PM »
Quote from: G-Unit on April 22, 2019, 07:57:09 PM
A cite from the source of your knowledge would be nice. The procedures laid down for Police Scotland saying they must interview material witnesses when carrying out an investigative review of a previously investigated missng child case. Or delete your post, I really don't mind which.
/www.app.college.police.uk/app-content/investigations/victims-and-witnesses/

The success of any investigation depends largely on the accuracy and detail of the material obtained from witnesses. Investigators, whether tasked with a volume crime or major investigation, must recognise the individual needs and concerns of witnesses and treat them with dignity and respect. This can have a significant impact on how witnesses cooperate with the investigation and any subsequent prosecution.

based on this are you suggesting grange would simply rely on statements taht the mccanns have said are inaccurate
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #1486 on: April 22, 2019, 08:15:57 PM »
Quote from: Davel on April 22, 2019, 08:06:40 PM
/www.app.college.police.uk/app-content/investigations/victims-and-witnesses/

The success of any investigation depends largely on the accuracy and detail of the material obtained from witnesses. Investigators, whether tasked with a volume crime or major investigation, must recognise the individual needs and concerns of witnesses and treat them with dignity and respect. This can have a significant impact on how witnesses cooperate with the investigation and any subsequent prosecution.

based on this are you suggesting grange would simply rely on statements taht the mccanns have said are inaccurate

Cite for the McCanns saying their statements were inaccurate? Kate McCann said 'lost in translation' which is slightly different. Control Risks got her statement wrong, apparently, and that was done in the same language. I don't think Gerry McCann has said anything.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #1487 on: April 22, 2019, 08:20:13 PM »
Quote from: G-Unit on April 22, 2019, 08:15:57 PM
Cite for the McCanns saying their statements were inaccurate? Kate McCann said 'lost in translation' which is slightly different. Control Risks got her statement wrong, apparently, and that was done in the same language. I don't think Gerry McCann has said anything.

innaccurate ...lost in translation...is there a SIGNIFICANT difference...you really are clutching at straws...no cite required
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Offline Eleanor

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #1488 on: April 22, 2019, 08:21:45 PM »
Quote from: Davel on April 22, 2019, 08:20:13 PM
innaccurate ...lost in translation...is there a SIGNIFICANT difference...you really are clutching at straws...no cite required

Agreed.
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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #1489 on: April 22, 2019, 08:26:19 PM »


"Kate and Gerry have always said there are innocent explanations for any alleged inconsistencies in their statements because they are innocent."

-CM

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1569143/Madeleine-McCann-Possible-translation-errors.html
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Offline Brietta

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #1490 on: April 22, 2019, 08:53:18 PM »
Quote from: G-Unit on April 22, 2019, 07:57:09 PM
A cite from the source of your knowledge would be nice. The procedures laid down for Police Scotland saying they must interview material witnesses when carrying out an investigative review of a previously investigated missng child case. Or delete your post, I really don't mind which.

What an arrogant post.

Moving goalposts ???  I didn't say you could build a new stadium.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #1491 on: April 22, 2019, 08:53:55 PM »
Quote from: G-Unit on April 22, 2019, 08:15:57 PM
Cite for the McCanns saying their statements were inaccurate? Kate McCann said 'lost in translation' which is slightly different. Control Risks got her statement wrong, apparently, and that was done in the same language. I don't think Gerry McCann has said anything.

They gave statements to control risks because of the lost in translation problem and Kate said these contained inaccuracies TOO... confirming the inaccuracies in the original statements given to the PJ... It just shows how difficult it must be to get an accurate account... The PJs method didn't stand a chance imo
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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #1492 on: April 22, 2019, 08:59:26 PM »
Quote from: Davel on April 22, 2019, 08:53:55 PM
They gave statements to control risks because of the lost in translation problem and Kate said these contained inaccuracies TOO... confirming the inaccuracies in the original statements given to the PJ... It just shows how difficult it must be to get an accurate account... The PJs method didn't stand a chance imo

The main inaccuracy I see in the McCann's statements is the inclusion of the word "abducted"......
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Offline pathfinder73

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #1493 on: April 22, 2019, 09:49:42 PM »
Quote from: Davel on April 22, 2019, 08:53:55 PM
They gave statements to control risks because of the lost in translation problem and Kate said these contained inaccuracies TOO... confirming the inaccuracies in the original statements given to the PJ... It just shows how difficult it must be to get an accurate account... The PJs method didn't stand a chance imo

They paid 100,000 to get them translated so where is their evidence of translation errors?  They could say anything and you would believe them.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #1494 on: April 22, 2019, 09:54:24 PM »
Quote from: pathfinder73 on April 22, 2019, 09:49:42 PM

They paid 100,000 to get them translated so where is their evidence of translation errors?  They could say anything and you would believe them.

It'd not often I'm lost for words... Just realised I'm not lost for words just can't use the ones that spring to mind
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #1495 on: April 23, 2019, 06:22:55 AM »
Quote from: Brietta on April 22, 2019, 08:53:18 PM
What an arrogant post.

Moving goalposts ???  I didn't say you could build a new stadium.

Why the fuss? You either have a cite or you don't. Just provide it or admit you don't know what police procedures are in a case like this instead of messing around as is your wont imo.
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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #1496 on: April 23, 2019, 07:08:15 AM »
Quote from: G-Unit on April 23, 2019, 06:22:55 AM
Why the fuss? You either have a cite or you don't. Just provide it or admit you don't know what police procedures are in a case like this instead of messing around as is your wont imo.
Just who made you the boss around here?
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Offline The General

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #1497 on: April 23, 2019, 08:08:39 AM »
Quote from: Vertigo Swirl on April 23, 2019, 07:08:15 AM
Just who made you the boss around here?
The old boss.
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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #1498 on: April 23, 2019, 08:10:23 AM »
Quote from: The General on April 23, 2019, 08:08:39 AM
The old boss.
If only the new boss was quite so tenacious about chasing up cites when I ask for them.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #1499 on: April 23, 2019, 08:11:56 AM »
Quote from: Vertigo Swirl on April 23, 2019, 07:08:15 AM
Just who made you the boss around here?

All I ask is equal treatment. If I don't provide a cite my post is deleted. The same rule should apply to others who don't provide cites.
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