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Offline G-Unit

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #1515 on: April 23, 2019, 01:42:39 PM »
Its not verbatim... I think the translator may have used some artistic licence... You can claim what you want... Due to the, way the accounts, were taken nothing can be confirmed either way

You have opinion, rumour, innuendo and guesswork. I have a signed statement.

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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #1516 on: April 23, 2019, 02:00:58 PM »
You have opinion, rumour, innuendo and guesswork. I have a signed statement.



Whatever.... It's a witness statement to so can't be used in evidence against as I understand

Offline G-Unit

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #1517 on: April 23, 2019, 02:08:30 PM »
Another piece of evidence suggesting that Gerry McCann had used the locked front door;

2115: JT leaves table, and sees GM talking with fellow resident ("Jez" Wilkins) outside the patio gate of 5A. The two were standing just up the hill from the gate towards Rua A. da Silva Road.
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/TIME_LINE_3_MAY_07.htm
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Offline Brietta

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #1518 on: April 23, 2019, 03:24:49 PM »
All I ask is equal treatment. If I don't provide a cite my post is deleted. The same rule should apply to others who don't provide cites.

I have just checked back to the date in question to find that the comment I temporarily removed on 23rd Jan because a cite had been refused on request has in fact been re-posted to the board on Jan 25th with the original content intact but some of the wording jumbled around and the cite which should have been appended on the 23rd attached to the new post on the 25th.

In my opinion the present episode is nasty and smacks of mischief making.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Brietta

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #1519 on: April 23, 2019, 03:33:04 PM »
I didn't even know it had happened myself until I was given a link to that discussion as what seemed to be some kind of justification for the lack of a cite in the latest incident. In my opinion you can't demand cites from others if you refuse to supply them yourself.

You had obviously mis-remembered that you had posted again ... this time with the cite you would not post when I asked for it.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #1520 on: April 23, 2019, 04:32:23 PM »
Even the most talented translator can't translate 'entered using the key, the door beiing locked' as 'entered via the unlocked patio door'
Was the most talented translator used?  Do you have a cite to prove your statement that mistakes of this nature are impossible or is it simply your opinion?
"Surely the fact that their accounts were different reinforces their veracity rather than diminishes it? If they had colluded in protecting ........ surely all of their accounts would be the same?" - Faithlilly

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #1521 on: April 23, 2019, 04:42:06 PM »
Another piece of evidence suggesting that Gerry McCann had used the locked front door;

2115: JT leaves table, and sees GM talking with fellow resident ("Jez" Wilkins) outside the patio gate of 5A. The two were standing just up the hill from the gate towards Rua A. da Silva Road.
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/TIME_LINE_3_MAY_07.htm

I seem to remember if we look at kste and gerrys statement sone parts are almost identical... Did they both say the same things OE were they asked a series of loaded questions

Offline Eleanor

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #1522 on: April 23, 2019, 04:53:27 PM »
I seem to remember if we look at kste and gerrys statement sone parts are almost identical... Did they both say the same things OE were they asked a series of loaded questions

Yes, they almost certainly were asked loaded questions.  Nothing wrong with that.  But the fact remains that Arguidos don't have to answer questions.

I will never understand why Amaral, or anyone else did that.  Arguido.  End of.

Offline G-Unit

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #1523 on: April 23, 2019, 05:50:25 PM »
Was the most talented translator used?  Do you have a cite to prove your statement that mistakes of this nature are impossible or is it simply your opinion?

I don't know who the McCanns and OG used, but they weren't free and they would have translated Gery's 4th May statement exactly as the vounteers did. It says he opened the door with the key because it was locked;

entrou no quarto munido da chave respectiva estando a porta trancada
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/GERRY-MCCANN.htm



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Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #1524 on: April 23, 2019, 06:06:15 PM »
I have just checked back to the date in question to find that the comment I temporarily removed on 23rd Jan because a cite had been refused on request has in fact been re-posted to the board on Jan 25th with the original content intact but some of the wording jumbled around and the cite which should have been appended on the 23rd attached to the new post on the 25th.

In my opinion the present episode is nasty and smacks of mischief making.

I have no memory of the incident and less interest. In my opinion cites are demanded from me on a regular basis but it I request them a mighty fuss ensues. Where did you get your information about police procedures by the way?
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #1525 on: April 23, 2019, 06:47:19 PM »
Another piece of evidence suggesting that Gerry McCann had used the locked front door;

2115: JT leaves table, and sees GM talking with fellow resident ("Jez" Wilkins) outside the patio gate of 5A. The two were standing just up the hill from the gate towards Rua A. da Silva Road.
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/TIME_LINE_3_MAY_07.htm

why does gerry say at 10 Kate entered the apartment using the key

Offline G-Unit

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #1526 on: April 23, 2019, 07:00:19 PM »
why does gerry say at 10 Kate entered the apartment using the key

I think the only person who can answer that is Gerry McCann and that isn't going to hapoen imo.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #1527 on: April 23, 2019, 07:21:50 PM »
I think the only person who can answer that is Gerry McCann and that isn't going to hapoen imo.

Perhaps he never said it

Offline G-Unit

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #1528 on: April 23, 2019, 08:14:09 PM »
Perhaps he never said it

What a daft suggestion imo. What possible motive would the interpreter have for lying?
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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #1529 on: April 23, 2019, 08:31:22 PM »
What a daft suggestion imo. What possible motive would the interpreter have for lying?
Who said he lied?  Is there no other explanation?
"Surely the fact that their accounts were different reinforces their veracity rather than diminishes it? If they had colluded in protecting ........ surely all of their accounts would be the same?" - Faithlilly