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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #2565 on: May 01, 2019, 11:43:24 AM »
You seem to be criticising the PJ for poor customer service. What a peculiar idea,  Of course their reply might not have been curt. Have you seen it?
What is peculiar about common courtesy?  Of course police are public servants and answerable to the public, or maybe not in Portugal, I don't know. 

"Family spokesman Clarence Mitchell confirmed that Mrs McCann wrote to senior officer Paulo Rebelo but received no reply beyond a formal notification that her correspondence would be placed on file".

How many words does it take to say the correspondence would be placed on file?  The letter was addressed to Rebelo - did he reply?  No. 
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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #2566 on: May 01, 2019, 11:44:29 AM »

So why is it SY did - because according to them PJ did such a good job in investigating K & G tapas 7

They decided not to go over it again because

The Metropolitan Police has confirmed it didn’t formally interview the McCanns because it was satisfied the couple had been ruled out by the initial Portuguese investigation.
What do you think?  Did the PJ do a good job or not? 
"Surely the fact that their accounts were different reinforces their veracity rather than diminishes it? If they had colluded in protecting ........ surely all of their accounts would be the same?" - Faithlilly

Offline kizzy

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #2567 on: May 01, 2019, 12:32:22 PM »
What do you think?  Did the PJ do a good job or not?


Well not if - the couple had been ruled out by the initial Portuguese investigation.

But there again it could be just SY excuse -  for not starting at the beginning.

Offline G-Unit

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #2568 on: May 01, 2019, 12:38:57 PM »
What is peculiar about common courtesy?  Of course police are public servants and answerable to the public, or maybe not in Portugal, I don't know. 

"Family spokesman Clarence Mitchell confirmed that Mrs McCann wrote to senior officer Paulo Rebelo but received no reply beyond a formal notification that her correspondence would be placed on file".

How many words does it take to say the correspondence would be placed on file?  The letter was addressed to Rebelo - did he reply?  No.

The PJ may be answerable to the Portuguese public but not to other nationalities and their obligations to suspects are restricted to those laid down by Portuguese law imo.
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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #2569 on: May 01, 2019, 12:56:23 PM »
The PJ may be answerable to the Portuguese public but not to other nationalities and their obligations to suspects are restricted to those laid down by Portuguese law imo.
Do you accept now that the McCanns wrote to the PJ and their pleas were ignored.  Probably not! 
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #2570 on: May 01, 2019, 01:40:52 PM »
Do you accept now that the McCanns wrote to the PJ and their pleas were ignored.  Probably not!

I think Kate McCann knew very well that the PJ weren't able to give her any information due to the judicial secrecy laws. I think she knew very well that they were not going to work togather with atguidos. Therefore I'm not sure what she hoped to acieve. Maybe she would have got a better reaction if she'd offered to return to Portugal and answer those questions she refused to answer when she was 'working with them' previously?
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Offline jassi

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #2571 on: May 01, 2019, 01:44:03 PM »
I think Kate McCann knew very well that the PJ weren't able to give her any information due to the judicial secrecy laws. I think she knew very well that they were not going to work togather with atguidos. Therefore I'm not sure what she hoped to acieve. Maybe she would have got a better reaction if she'd offered to return to Portugal and answer those questions she refused to answer when she was 'working with them' previously?

That would have been a novel approach.
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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #2572 on: May 01, 2019, 01:44:59 PM »
I think Kate McCann knew very well that the PJ weren't able to give her any information due to the judicial secrecy laws. I think she knew very well that they were not going to work togather with atguidos. Therefore I'm not sure what she hoped to acieve. Maybe she would have got a better reaction if she'd offered to return to Portugal and answer those questions she refused to answer when she was 'working with them' previously?
Yes, but do you now accept that the McCanns wrote to the PJ and their please were ignored, like I said many dozens of posts ago and about which you have been nit-picking ever since?
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Offline Brietta

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #2573 on: May 01, 2019, 01:53:44 PM »
I think Kate McCann knew very well that the PJ weren't able to give her any information due to the judicial secrecy laws. I think she knew very well that they were not going to work togather with atguidos. Therefore I'm not sure what she hoped to acieve. Maybe she would have got a better reaction if she'd offered to return to Portugal and answer those questions she refused to answer when she was 'working with them' previously?

It would appear to be a constant sceptic belief that Kate McCann was not entitled to refuse to answer questions when she was made an arguida in accordance with Portuguese law.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline jassi

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #2574 on: May 01, 2019, 01:57:33 PM »
Cooperation is a two way street.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #2575 on: May 01, 2019, 02:01:04 PM »
Cooperation is a two way street.
Gerry cooperated with the PJ, if he'd written the letter instead do you think his letter wouldn't have been ignored? 
"Surely the fact that their accounts were different reinforces their veracity rather than diminishes it? If they had colluded in protecting ........ surely all of their accounts would be the same?" - Faithlilly

Offline jassi

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #2576 on: May 01, 2019, 02:02:39 PM »
Gerry cooperated with the PJ, if he'd written the letter instead do you think his letter wouldn't have been ignored?

We will never know,so why speculate ?
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I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

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Offline kizzy

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #2577 on: May 01, 2019, 02:05:23 PM »
It would appear to be a constant sceptic belief that Kate McCann was not entitled to refuse to answer questions when she was made an arguida in accordance with Portuguese law.


Whatever - she refused to answer although knowing it could harm the investigation as to what happened to Maddie

Why do that - oh yes she thought it may harm her IMO if she answered the questions.

Offline The General

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #2578 on: May 01, 2019, 02:07:19 PM »
It would appear to be a constant sceptic belief that Kate McCann was not entitled to refuse to answer questions when she was made an arguida in accordance with Portuguese law.
What would be the reason for her not answering a pretty routine set of questions? After all, in the one question she did answer, she confirmed that not doing so may impede the search for her daughter - so she's aware of the ramifications.
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Offline The General

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #2579 on: May 01, 2019, 02:11:23 PM »
Gerry cooperated with the PJ, if he'd written the letter instead do you think his letter wouldn't have been ignored?
Maybe relations had soured to the point where professional responses were not forthcoming.
Or perhaps they perceived it as a gimmick, bearing in mind their stance on the outcome of their investigation.
Perhaps there was a legal embargo on such responses, including discussing responses.
Perhaps it was poorly translated, then poorly transcribed.
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