Sceptics beliefs ?

[Angelo222]

No Proof that they were accurate.

The originals were all signed by the person giving the statement and I am yet to see a translation which was inaccurate so I find your suggestion puzzling.  It is common knowledge that Gerry McCann changed his statement, he even had to admit it so the suggestion that the PJ somehow were incompetent in taking statements is inaccurate imo.

[Eleanor]

The originals were all signed by the person giving the statement and I am yet to see a translation which was inaccurate so I fi d your suggestion puzzling.

No Language perfectly translates.  There is always room for error or nuances.

[Angelo222]

No Language perfectly translates.  There is always room for error or nuances.

I have found them to be of very high quality despite the language problems you highlight.  Gerry McCann's memory lapses cannot be explained away in such a way and that is the difficulty for many sceptics.

[Eleanor]

I have found them to be of very high quality despite the language problems you highlight.

They could well be of high quality.  But in a Court of Law they have to be perfect.

[Lace]

Big man, old ground again, but both Kate and Gerry told numerous friends and family, and in turn they told the media many, many times.
Unless the friends and family all lied, of course. Or Gerry and/or Kate lied, of course.

Gerry found that the shutter could be raised from outside,   was it supposed to do that?   If the shutter was onlly supposed to be raised by using the control in the bedroom then,  yes it was broken.   Gerry by the sound of it was very upset 'roaring like a bull'  it was said,  so maybe he did say it was broken or levered up.   How can anyone suggest that he was lying about it?

[Robittybob1]

who supplied the list to the consulate...were they professional...you dont know....FACT

at least they were "approved" in order to appear on the list.
Are we now using Kate's book as "evidence".  Sometimes it is acceptable and other times as not.

[Robittybob1]

Also untouched by PJ hands, which in this case is the important point imo. I expect they could have hired their own interpreter had they had concerns. Strangely there's no mention of them seeking advice or support before these interviews. They didn't even seem to consult their lawyer.

A lawyer was allowed to be present.  (My understanding of the situation only.)

[Miss Taken Identity]

It’s amazing that the police are looking at German paedos seeing as how it’s so blatantly obvious the window wasn’t jemmied, innit though...

The window wasn't jemmied?  oh...

'Gerry rings his sister, Trish Cameron, at 23:40 on 03 May 2007
Heart specialist Gerry McCann rang his sister Trish in Scotland after Maddy vanished from her cot placed between two-year-old twins Sean and Amelie.

Trish revealed yesterday: "He was breaking his heart, saying 'Madeleine's been abducted, she's been abducted'."

Trish said: "When Kate checked, she came out screaming. Maddy had gone. The door was open and the window in the bedroom and shutters were jemmied open. Nothing had been touched and no valuables taken."

"Kate came screaming back to the group crying, 'They’ve taken her, they’ve taken her'. Gerry was crying and roaring like a bull."

"They think someone must have come in the window and gone out the door with her."

Link to Daily Mirror article containing this quote'

Trish Cameron: They last checked at half past nine; they were all sound asleep, sleeping; windows shut; shutters shut. Kate went back at ten o'clock to check; the front door was lying open; the window had been tampered with; the shutters had been jammied open... or whatever you call it, and Madeleine was missing.


Jon Corner, a close friend of Mrs McCann and godparent of the twins, said Kate telephoned him in the middle of the night distraught.
He said: "She just blurted out that Madeleine had been abducted. She told me, 'They have broken the shutter on the window and taken my little girl.'

Gerrys blog:http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/Nigel/id31.htm


As it turns out the window and shutters were not tampered with at all...

[Robittybob1]

If the window was shut and it is later found open it has been tampered with IMO.

[Wonderfulspam]

If the window was shut and it is later found open it has been tampered with IMO.

Not if it was Kate that opened it.

[Miss Taken Identity]

Not if it was Kate that opened it.

Indeed!
...  and there was NO evidence it was 'tampered 'with. who closed it?

Tampering implies neferious intent to use an implement to coerce an aparatus (window/shutter)which is not in a state which is preferred.(ie it is shut) One opens ones window- one does not tamper with ones window to open it...

[Lace]

The window wasn't jemmied?  oh...

'Gerry rings his sister, Trish Cameron, at 23:40 on 03 May 2007
Heart specialist Gerry McCann rang his sister Trish in Scotland after Maddy vanished from her cot placed between two-year-old twins Sean and Amelie.

Trish revealed yesterday: "He was breaking his heart, saying 'Madeleine's been abducted, she's been abducted'."

Trish said: "When Kate checked, she came out screaming. Maddy had gone. The door was open and the window in the bedroom and shutters were jemmied open. Nothing had been touched and no valuables taken."

"Kate came screaming back to the group crying, 'They’ve taken her, they’ve taken her'. Gerry was crying and roaring like a bull."

"They think someone must have come in the window and gone out the door with her."

Link to Daily Mirror article containing this quote'

Trish Cameron: They last checked at half past nine; they were all sound asleep, sleeping; windows shut; shutters shut. Kate went back at ten o'clock to check; the front door was lying open; the window had been tampered with; the shutters had been jammied open... or whatever you call it, and Madeleine was missing.


Jon Corner, a close friend of Mrs McCann and godparent of the twins, said Kate telephoned him in the middle of the night distraught.
He said: "She just blurted out that Madeleine had been abducted. She told me, 'They have broken the shutter on the window and taken my little girl.'

Gerrys blog:http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/Nigel/id31.htm


As it turns out the window and shutters were not tampered with at all...

Forced open,  jemmied open,  for goodness sake,  Gerry found they could be opened from the outside,  he thought they were broken and had been forced open. 

[kizzy]

Forced open,  jemmied open,  for goodness sake,  Gerry found they could be opened from the outside,  he thought they were broken and had been forced open.

Why use the window at all - if there had been someone observing them as they say on previous nights.

They would have seen that the doors were left open.

[Venturi Swirl]

Why use the window at all - if there had been someone observing them as they say on previous nights.

They would have seen that the doors were left open.

Why stage an abduction by opening a window and shutter claiming it was jemmied and then not actually jemmy it and then closing it? 

[Wonderfulspam]

Why use the window at all - if there had been someone observing them as they say on previous nights.

They would have seen that the doors were left open.

Only the patio door was left open & no one went in or out of it without tidying up after themselves.
The front door was locked, the fairytale abductor required a key to enter it.