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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #12645 on: April 06, 2021, 10:17:14 PM »
It's a different discussion.
And how does this “new” discussion relate to the German suspect which is the thread subject?
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Offline Eleanor

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #12646 on: April 06, 2021, 11:20:06 PM »
And how does this “new” discussion relate to the German suspect which is the thread subject?

It doesn't.

We all go Off Topic on occasions, including me.  Sometimes people get cross about this, especially if they are losing the argument.

Offline misty

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #12647 on: April 06, 2021, 11:46:10 PM »
I cannot speak for Misty but as far as I know this is the person who is a facebook friend of Pauline M. I’ll try and find the complete reference.

A German musician and IT-technician, who got to know him in 2005 after a gig in a music bar in Lagos, learned that B. also has an uncanny side. The SPIEGEL reached Christian P., 53, via Skype in the small town of Kampot in Cambodia.

I met Christian from time to time, he fixed my car, I helped him with the TV," he says. Sometimes they would drink wine. "He was quite a messie. The house in Praia da Luz was totally untidy and unkempt."

During a visit, he noticed three stacks of foreign travel documents. "There were 30 to 50 passports lying around in plain sight." When asked about this, Christian B. told about thefts in Praia da Luz and the surrounding area. "He told us that he went on tour from time to time, and climbed up facades in the process.

This is consistent with the findings of the investigators. According to this, Christian B. financed his life in Portugal in the mid-2000s not with odd jobs, but with burglaries and thefts. In April 2006, he and an Austrian accomplice were caught red-handed at a gas station when they were siphoning diesel from a truck. A Portuguese court sentenced them to 258 days in prison.

"I visited him in prison at the time," Christian P. recalls. "He complained about the poor prison conditions and the lousy food. Because there was no alcohol in the prison, I was supposed to bring him oranges sprinkled with vodka, but I didn't want that. That made B. angry.

During his imprisonment, B. received notice of termination for the house he had rented in Praia da Luz. Christian P. wanted to help his friend and place a few boxes for him. "But there were such disgusting CDs with dirty movies like animal porn, more than a hundred CDs," says Christian P. He threw all the stuff away. Christian B. didn't want to see him again afterwards, "he was so angry".
https://www.spiegel.de/panorama/justiz/fall-madeleine-mccann-verdaechtiger-die-akte-christian-b-a-00000000-0002-0001-0000-000173444515

Thanks, Anthro. That's the person to whom I was referring but obviously cannot provide a link to his Facebook page on the forum and neither would I want to as he has no doubt already spoken to the German police.
It's unclear during what period nanny Pauline M and Christian P became acquainted and whether or not she also knew Brueckner. However, if Christian B knew Pauline M quite well then he may have had a perfectly legitimate reason to be near the Tapas Bar on 3rd May or at any time during the week. We also don't know where Pauline M was on the night of 3rd May as she doesn't appear to have been asked when she made her statement.

Offline G-Unit

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #12648 on: April 07, 2021, 01:22:19 AM »
That is not the original statement given to an English police officer in English is it?

No, the PJ had them translated, obviously.

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Offline G-Unit

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #12649 on: April 07, 2021, 11:07:53 AM »
Thanks, Anthro. That's the person to whom I was referring but obviously cannot provide a link to his Facebook page on the forum and neither would I want to as he has no doubt already spoken to the German police.
It's unclear during what period nanny Pauline M and Christian P became acquainted and whether or not she also knew Brueckner. However, if Christian B knew Pauline M quite well then he may have had a perfectly legitimate reason to be near the Tapas Bar on 3rd May or at any time during the week. We also don't know where Pauline M was on the night of 3rd May as she doesn't appear to have been asked when she made her statement.

Were all the nannies asked for their whereabouts on the night of 3rd May or did some of them just volunteer the information?

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Offline Brietta

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« Reply #12650 on: April 07, 2021, 12:52:12 PM »
No, the PJ had them translated, obviously.
No, the internet version published by LEVY was provided by INES.  No-one not in the loop - you included - has seen the English original.

Meanwhile back at the current investigation far removed from the venal prejudices and distractions of the past things are underway concerning the prime suspect - Brueckner.

I think the absolute silence from all concerned is speaking volumes.  And just as it is said "all roads lead to Rome" I think at the moment all investigative opportunities are concentrated firmly in the hands of the German prosecutors.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline G-Unit

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #12651 on: April 07, 2021, 02:07:03 PM »
No, the internet version published by LEVY was provided by INES.  No-one not in the loop - you included - has seen the English original.

Meanwhile back at the current investigation far removed from the venal prejudices and distractions of the past things are underway concerning the prime suspect - Brueckner.

I think the absolute silence from all concerned is speaking volumes.  And just as it is said "all roads lead to Rome" I think at the moment all investigative opportunities are concentrated firmly in the hands of the German prosecutors.

It's clear that the PJ had the original English version of the statements, sent to Ricardo Paiva by Mike Marshall;

"As requested, appended are the statements of Arul and Katherina Gaspar."
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/KATERINA-PAYNE-INCIDENT.htm

Obviously they needed translating into Portuguese and Carla Romana Fidalgo Esteves provided the translation. She worked for the PJ Translation Section.
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/ap/A11_5/apenso5_vol_11_p2445.jpg

Innes translated the Portuguese documents back into English.

Why Levy is significant in your opinion escapes me.

Whatever is happening in the present investigations is unclear. Nothing has been said by any of the police forces associated with the investigations for quite some time. The Germans may have a prime suspect, but they don't seem to be moving towards arresting him.
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Offline Eleanor

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #12652 on: April 07, 2021, 02:14:01 PM »
It's clear that the PJ had the original English version of the statements, sent to Ricardo Paiva by Mike Marshall;

"As requested, appended are the statements of Arul and Katherina Gaspar."
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/KATERINA-PAYNE-INCIDENT.htm

Obviously they needed translating into Portuguese and Carla Romana Fidalgo Esteves provided the translation. She worked for the PJ Translation Section.
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/ap/A11_5/apenso5_vol_11_p2445.jpg

Innes translated the Portuguese documents back into English.

Why Levy is significant in your opinion escapes me.

Whatever is happening in the present investigations is unclear. Nothing has been said by any of the police forces associated with the investigations for quite some time. The Germans may have a prime suspect, but they don't seem to be moving towards arresting him.

The Germans don't have to arrest him.  He's locked up for Rape.

Offline jassi

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #12653 on: April 07, 2021, 02:28:30 PM »
It's a funny old investigation when police don't bother to question their prime suspect - IMO
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline barrier

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #12654 on: April 07, 2021, 02:31:33 PM »
The Germans don't have to arrest him.  He's locked up for Rape.

Not even to question him ?
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Offline barrier

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #12655 on: April 07, 2021, 02:32:14 PM »
It's a funny old investigation when police don't bother to question their prime suspect - IMO

No need, concrete evidence, the legend is writ.
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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #12656 on: April 07, 2021, 02:35:25 PM »
No need, concrete evidence, the legend is writ.
Are you contractually obliged to end every post with your favourite catchphrase?
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Offline Eleanor

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #12657 on: April 07, 2021, 02:37:05 PM »
It's a funny old investigation when police don't bother to question their prime suspect - IMO

Rest your soul in patience.  Either something will happen or it won't.  And whatever happens or not, it will result in a jolly good Argie Bargie, wherein we can all insult each other wholesale.

Offline barrier

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #12658 on: April 07, 2021, 02:54:43 PM »
Rest your soul in patience.  Either something will happen or it won't.  And whatever happens or not, it will result in a jolly good Argie Bargie, wherein we can all insult each other wholesale.

Oh happy day's, bring it on.
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Offline Brietta

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #12659 on: April 07, 2021, 03:03:45 PM »
It's a funny old investigation when police don't bother to question their prime suspect - IMO

No doubt they are getting on very well without him ... and he's going nowhere any time soon 😉
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....