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Offline Mr Gray

Re: The beating and conviction of Leonor Cipriano
« Reply #90 on: June 08, 2013, 04:53:17 PM »
In Joana case, there's a double confession.
Wasn't that preceded by a double beating?

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Re: The beating and conviction of Leonor Cipriano
« Reply #91 on: June 08, 2013, 04:55:43 PM »
Yes I believe letters can be written, well written and well documented and, as letters have turned a rare object (at least well written and well documented), they are read.
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Annual Report 2013

The state of the world's human rights

Portugal

Torture and other ill-treatment

A criminal investigation into the use of a Taser against an inmate in Paços de Ferreira prison in 2010 did not progress despite the findings of an inquiry by the Audit and Inspection services of the General Directorate for prisons that two members of the Prison Security Intervention Group had used the weapon disproportionately. The outcome of disciplinary proceedings against the two prison officers remained pending at the end of the year.

The trial of three police officers accused of torturing Virgolino Borges in March 2000 while in police custody, which started in November 2011, made little progress.

http://www.amnesty.org/en/region/portugal/report-2013
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Online Eleanor

Re: The beating and conviction of Leonor Cipriano
« Reply #92 on: June 08, 2013, 05:09:37 PM »
Here's one of them.

It was proved these photo's were NOT fake



Jesus Christ.  Those photos make me feel ill every time I see them.  And people wonder why Leonor Cipriano can't remember exactly what happened.  It's a miracle that she survived at all.

Offline Carana

Re: The beating and conviction of Leonor Cipriano
« Reply #93 on: June 08, 2013, 05:09:55 PM »
Seems Tavares de Almeida and another cop were convicted earlier this year and got a 2.5 year suspended sentence and a monthly fine.


Dois anos e meio de prisão
Pena suspensa para dupla da PJ condenada por tortura

Dois inspetores-chefes da PJ foram condenados, esta sexta-feira, a dois anos e seis meses de prisão, com pena suspensa, por tortura contra o funcionário da CP Virgolino Borges, disse à Lusa o advogado da vítima.

    25 de Janeiro, 18h09
   

A notícia da condenação dos dois inspetores da Polícia Judiciária foi avançada pela SIC Notícias.

O coletivo de juízes da 3ªa vara criminal de Lisboa condenou pelo de tortura os inspetores-chefe José Diamantino Santos e Vitor Tavares de Almeida e ao pagamento de uma multa de 80 euros/mês pelo mesmo período, indicou à Lusa o advogado Jerónimo Martins.

http://www.cmjornal.xl.pt/detalhe/noticias/nacional/portugal/pena-suspensa-para-dupla-da-pj-condenada-por-tortura

Offline faithlilly

Re: The beating and conviction of Leonor Cipriano
« Reply #94 on: June 08, 2013, 05:10:09 PM »
Here's one of them.

It was proved these photo's were NOT fake



Not it wasn't. The provenance of these photographs was very much questioned by a photographic expert at Amaral's trial.
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Re: The beating and conviction of Leonor Cipriano
« Reply #95 on: June 08, 2013, 05:22:05 PM »
Seems Tavares de Almeida and another cop were convicted earlier this year and got a 2.5 year suspended sentence and a monthly fine.


Dois anos e meio de prisão
Pena suspensa para dupla da PJ condenada por tortura

Dois inspetores-chefes da PJ foram condenados, esta sexta-feira, a dois anos e seis meses de prisão, com pena suspensa, por tortura contra o funcionário da CP Virgolino Borges, disse à Lusa o advogado da vítima.

    25 de Janeiro, 18h09
   

A notícia da condenação dos dois inspetores da Polícia Judiciária foi avançada pela SIC Notícias.

O coletivo de juízes da 3ªa vara criminal de Lisboa condenou pelo de tortura os inspetores-chefe José Diamantino Santos e Vitor Tavares de Almeida e ao pagamento de uma multa de 80 euros/mês pelo mesmo período, indicou à Lusa o advogado Jerónimo Martins.

http://www.cmjornal.xl.pt/detalhe/noticias/nacional/portugal/pena-suspensa-para-dupla-da-pj-condenada-por-tortura

That is the case I posted above, Carana. Amnesty International.

Two and a half years in prison

Suspended sentence for duo PJ convicted of torture
Two chief inspectors of the PJ were sentenced on Friday to two years and six months imprisonment with suspended sentence for torture against the official CP Virgolino Borges, told Lusa the victim's lawyer.

January 25, 18h09

The news of the sentencing of two inspectors of the Judicial Police was advanced by SIC Notícias.

The collective of judges from the 3rd to the criminal court of Lisbon condemned the torture inspectors Chief Joseph Diamond Santos and Vitor Tavares de Almeida and the payment of a fine of 80 euros / month for the same period, told the Lusa attorney Jerónimo Martins.
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Re: The beating and conviction of Leonor Cipriano
« Reply #96 on: June 08, 2013, 05:32:57 PM »
@ DCI I know it's the same case, but the Amnesty extract was no doubt published prior to the conviction - as it wasn't mentioned.


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Re: The beating and conviction of Leonor Cipriano
« Reply #97 on: June 08, 2013, 05:39:20 PM »
@ DCI I know it's the same case, but the Amnesty extract was no doubt published prior to the conviction - as it wasn't mentioned.

No Idea Carana, but its this years report! Depends when Amnesty, does the reports. If after January, then yes.

Annual Report 2013

Portugal

The trial of three police officers accused of torturing Virgolino Borges in March 2000 while in police custody, which started in November 2011, made little progress.
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Re: The beating and conviction of Leonor Cipriano
« Reply #98 on: June 08, 2013, 05:45:23 PM »
No Idea Carana, but its this years report! Depends when Amnesty, does the reports. If after January, then yes.

Annual Report 2013

Portugal

The trial of three police officers accused of torturing Virgolino Borges in March 2000 while in police custody, which started in November 2011, made little progress.

I imagine that Amnesty prepares its upcoming report towards the end of the previous year.


A different article:


Dois inspetores da PJ condenados por tortura

17:44 Sexta feira, 25 de janeiro de 2013

Ler mais: http://expresso.sapo.pt/dois-inspetores-da-pj-condenados-por-tortura=f782292#ixzz2VdyvOxxp

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Re: The beating and conviction of Leonor Cipriano
« Reply #99 on: June 08, 2013, 07:40:33 PM »
Well, yes it did stray off topic, as a few of us mentioned Joana and there seemed to be an objection.

There is a Cipriano thread here:
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=1229.0

But the point here is that Joana might have been abducted. There is no proof that she ever got home and there is no forensic evidence that anything dreadful happened to her in her own home or anywhere else.

So her relatives were convicted on nothing at all, all their appeals quashed, and her sentence increased for perjury as well, ok  then if yu say so

Eta IIRC confessions are not allowed in court evidence so what was the point in torturing her? isnt it true she confessed in the presence of her first lawyer? Did that lawyer sit there and watch? Wasnt the confession before the day of the alledged beating? is there any evidence her inmates didnt beat her up? We all know what happens to child killers in prison. no officer was found guilty of torturing her

Wasnt the receipt from the shop Joana went to found in the house? Were not her fingerprints fround on the bottom of a door? Suggesting trying to escape when beingthrown around and beaten?Wasnt blood found? Have you actually read  the court judgements and what they say?

http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2013/04/leonor-cipriano-condemned-to-seven-more.html

See notes and link to supreme court ruling

And by some reckoning all children whose bodies have not been found even if someone has been convicted of their murder should feature on a missing campaign?
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Offline sadie

Re: The beating and conviction of Leonor Cipriano
« Reply #100 on: June 09, 2013, 01:20:58 AM »
Oh, and of course she was cut up and the pieces kept in the fridge weren't they?
.... and then feed to the pigs, wasn't she?  (gets rid of all the evidence)
Then her Mother was having it off with her brother (Joanas uncle)
And, of course, the physical torture


So like Amarals theory about The Mccanns keeping Madeleines body in the fridge
... and then the burning of the body at the pet crematorium?  (gets rid of all the evidence)
THen the Mccanns and the tapas peeps having it oiff with each other; swingers they were ya know.  Official!
And, of course, the mental torture



Amaral is very good at lurid and salacious stories with absolutely no forensic evidence.  None.  But torture thrown in
Cristavao too. 



They made a fortune between them with an extremely lurid story about Joanas abduction, soz murder  8)-))) with a bit of sex thrown in ....  LOL!  All to sell a few more copies? .... more lucre?

They made a fortune between them with a lurid story about Madeleines abduction, soz death in the apartment  8)-))) with a bit of sex thrown in....  LoL! all to sell a few more copies? ..... more lucre?



The repeat story is so predictable ... and the same as they produced for Joana.

Only wondering of course, but unbelievably similar aren't they?

How could you be so naive not to question it, Red?

Offline Mrs. B

Re: The beating and conviction of Leonor Cipriano
« Reply #101 on: June 09, 2013, 01:44:52 PM »
Don't know if you are aware but, apart from the Torture of Cipriano, there were more than one conviction for Torture in Portugal in recent times, as far as I can see.

The first one involves Tavares de Almeida (Amaral's 2nd in command) who was convicted to a 2.5 years suspended prison sentence for the Torture of Mr. Virgilino Borges, an innocent Portuguese citizen.

http://expresso.sapo.pt/dois-inspetores-da-pj-condenados-por-tortura=f782292

The other one refers to a case in Lisbon where a young German student was tortured, officers involved in that case received a sentence four years and three months in prison.

http://www.cmjornal.xl.pt/detalhe/noticias/exclusivo-cm/tortura-leva-dois--policias-a-cadeia

The torture in the 2nd case was no more severe than the first, though there was ONE notable difference:

And an attaché of the German embassy monitored throughout the trial.

If I was Portuguese, I would be absolutely LIVID...



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Re: The beating and conviction of Leonor Cipriano
« Reply #102 on: June 09, 2013, 02:00:35 PM »
Don't know if you are aware but, apart from the Torture of Cipriano, there were more than one conviction for Torture in Portugal in recent times, as far as I can see.

The first one involves Tavares de Almeida (Amaral's 2nd in command) who was convicted to a 2.5 years suspended prison sentence for the Torture of Mr. Virgilino Borges, an innocent Portuguese citizen.

http://expresso.sapo.pt/dois-inspetores-da-pj-condenados-por-tortura=f782292

The other one refers to a case in Lisbon where a young German student was tortured, officers involved in that case received a sentence four years and three months in prison.

http://www.cmjornal.xl.pt/detalhe/noticias/exclusivo-cm/tortura-leva-dois--policias-a-cadeia

The torture in the 2nd case was no more severe than the first, though there was ONE notable difference:

And an attaché of the German embassy monitored throughout the trial.

If I was Portuguese, I would be absolutely LIVID...
This happens everywhere, it's not typical of Portugal where, at least, the media report these cases (and the two PSP officers were heavily and rightly condemned).
Lots of people travel without paying, usually they have either to pay a fine immediately or to sign a document and show their Identity Card. If they refuse both they're taken to the police station.

Online Eleanor

Re: The beating and conviction of Leonor Cipriano
« Reply #103 on: June 09, 2013, 02:47:41 PM »

Getting severely beaten for non payment of a Train Ticket seems a bit drastic.

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Re: The beating and conviction of Leonor Cipriano
« Reply #104 on: June 09, 2013, 02:58:47 PM »
Getting severely beaten for non payment of a Train Ticket seems a bit drastic.
I don't know what happened, but you're not taken to the police for non payment of a ticket. The control isn't done by policemen, of course. If you pay the fine you don't have to produce an IC. If you don't have the money for the fine, the controller will take note of your IC and (according to what I observed) give you a document with indications to pay in a multibanco. 
Police is called only in case of aggression.