The beating and conviction of Leonor Cipriano

[Eleanor]

You are confusing those present with those responsible for torture.

Before the bag was placed over her head, she'd have known who was present.

After the bag was placed over her head, she'd have had no clue who delivered the blows

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This is only too true.  Sickening to say.

[Redblossom]

You are confusing those present with those responsible for torture.

Before the bag was placed over her head, she'd have known who was present.

After the bag was placed over her head, she'd have had no clue who delivered the blows

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she said amaral was there, egging them on,  it was proven he was not there at the time ,that makes her a liar, im sure judges knew what they were doing, and all her appeals quashed, time and time again,  there is, after all this, no evidence police beat her over her inmates after her confession in the presence of her lawyer, the daybefore she alledges she was by police, perhaps it leaked out, incidentally, what this  has to do with the mccann case is beyond me as theynever were tortured or ever going to be

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And dont forget she is convicted of perjury as well as murder, do go on supporting her though if it bolsters your anti amaral agenda, and also i see from you and your ilk you are so keen to cherrypick, a single conviction based on a technicality makes mr amaral a CONVICTED CRIMINAL and they were right  but multiple decisions by the courts  on LC being a murderer and a perjurer, means thry are wrong and she must be INNOCENT, barf

[stephen25000]

The woman is a proven liar and murderer.

END OF.

[DCI]

The woman is a proven liar and murderer.

END OF.

So is Amaral, he was convicted for it! END OF!

[Redblossom]

interesting, so many people mollycoddling the convicted murderess when even her  own family have disowned her

Anything to blacken mr amaral and the pj and hoping  it paints themccanns whiter, abject failure in this argument

[DCI]

So how then did she name them in the first place if she didnt know who it was?

Why did she get convicted  of perjury?

BTW Amarals conviction doesnt prove the PJ tortured her, cant you work it out?

So, no one has answered my previous post, LC was in the presence of her lawyer, not the mad one, the one before,  when she confessed which was the day BEFORE she says she was beaten for a confession, worked it out yet? And what would be the point of the police beating a confession out when confessions are INVALID in court

That would be Joao Grade,



The one caught taking drugs into a prison. The one that went on to defend Amaral, but refused to defend him again, for none payment.

[Redblossom]

That would be Joao Grade,



The one caught taking drugs into a prison. The one that went on to defend Amaral, but refused to defend him again, for none payment.

awwww DCI go give LC a hug then next time you are there

Which part of convicted and all appeals quashed dont you understand?

[DCI]

awwww DCI go give LC a hug then next time you are there

Which part of convicted and all appeals quashed dont you understand?

I will, don't fret.
By the way, did you know, Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit.

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[Redblossom]

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i agree with  you you dont know so are scratching  your head

Cheers and dont worry about it

Oh and cite lca lawyer took drugs in and why ta

Why the   Mad marcos took over lcs case and her brothers YEARS later when his remit was to create dirt on mr a

Perhaps u can follow up with why the mcccanns  employed m3 and they are crooks

[Mrs. B]

So is Amaral, he was convicted for it! END OF!

Yes, Amaral testified in court that Cipriano received her injuries by throwing herself down the stairs IN the police station. So if anyone is claiming that she was instead beaten up by other "inmates", that means Amaral would be even MORE of a liar.

http://www.mccannfiles.com/id248.html

[faithlilly]

Torture was found proved (hence Amaral's conviction) but the officers responsible for torture were not identified.

That was because Leonor had a bag over her head as she was being tortured ...

Or did she ? She was done with perjury after all.

[Mrs. B]

The torture of Cipriano has been established by a court of law, it has then been reconfirmed by an appeal court. In the perjury case of Cipriano, she was found to have given false statement re the identity of those who tortured her. The reason she could not have identified them is because she was forced to wear a bag over her head.

Another possibility is that she was confused & reported the officers she saw before the bag was placed over her head. Portuguese courts seem unaware that one the reasons why torturers use these methods is to inflict pain, extreme fear & disorientation in victims.  In that state, it's easier to "convince" the victim to sign a confession to whatever is proposed.

[faithlilly]

Yes, Amaral testified in court that Cipriano received her injuries by throwing herself down the stairs IN the police station. So if anyone is claiming that she was instead beaten up by other "inmates", that means Amaral would be even MORE of a liar.

http://www.mccannfiles.com/id248.html

She had minor bruising only when she first arrived at prison from her attempt to throw herself over the balcony and either sustained more a more serious beating while there or alternatively the photographs of her injuries could have been tampered with. We may truly never know.

[Mrs. B]

You will just have to accept that the Torture of Leonor Cipriano has been confirmed in a court of law, not once, but TWICE, it was also given as proven in her perjury case.

[faithlilly]

You will just have to accept that the Torture of Leonor Cipriano has been confirmed in a court of law, not once, but TWICE, it was also given as proven in her perjury case.

Twice ? The second court was only repeating what the first court had decided.

A conviction achieved solely on the evidence of only one person, who later was found to have perjured themselves, would not stand in this country.

Further if I have to accept the torture of Cipriano then you will have to accept her conviction for the murder of her daughter, which she has launched multiple unsuccessful appeals against.