The beating and conviction of Leonor Cipriano

[Mrs. B]

I don't agree, I think it's highly significant & quite notable that at least TWO officers investigating the case were, at the same time, not only investigated for, but had been CHARGED with torture related offences. They shouldn't even have been let NEAR any investigations, let alone another missing child case. IMO.

[Eleanor]

The eyes of the world were watching when Madeleine disappeared.  Why else does anyone think The British Ambassador turned up so quickly?
The British Embassy knew all about The PJ's and Amaral's penchant for obtaining confessions by torture, and they weren't going to let that happen again.

[AnneGuedes]

The conspiration of the beginning of the century ?
Was Madeleine McCann just instrumental, the idea being to convict those cops and sanction the country that allowed them to exist ?

[DCI]

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[Mrs. B]

The conspiration of the beginning of the century ?
Was Madeleine McCann just instrumental, the idea being to convict those cops and sanction the country that allowed them to exist ?

Or...they could just have sacked them? Just a thought, like...

[Carana]

The conspiration of the beginning of the century ?
Was Madeleine McCann just instrumental, the idea being to convict those cops and sanction the country that allowed them to exist ?

Could you expand on your thoughts?

[AnneGuedes]

Or...they could just have sacked them? Just a thought, like...

I was kidding of course, any suggestion of conspiracy is on the side of irrationality.
The Portuguese State is sovereign. I find healthy Portuguese citizens criticizing their judiciary system (independent of the executive), I find extraordinary foreigners judging a country of which they ignore the culture and the language.

[stephen25000]

Someone who is involved in an alleged crime of torture doesn't necessarily have to had tortured the person making the claim. Involved also includes those who turned a blind eye to what was going on or who falsified documentation to cover up the alleged torture. Amaral didn't need to have hit Cipriano to have been involved in her torture.

So where exactly is the carte blanche proof that Amaral colluded in the 'torture' of CIPRIANO ?

i.e. Not an opinion he did, just undeniable PROOF .

[ferryman]

So where exactly is the carte blanche proof that Amaral colluded in the 'torture' of CIPRIANO ?

i.e. Not an opinion he did, just undeniable PROOF .

Amaral's conviction in a court of Portuguese law ....

[stephen25000]

Amaral's conviction in a court of Portuguese law ....

So where is the physical/literary evidence he colluded in 'torture'  honestbroker ?

P.S. I'm not interested in hearsay.

[ferryman]

So where is the physical/literary evidence he colluded in 'torture'  honestbroker ?

P.S. I'm not interested in hearsay.

Regard Amaral's conviction in a court of Portuguese law as "hearsay" if you wish ..

[stephen25000]

Regard Amaral's conviction in a court of Portuguese law as "hearsay" if you wish ..

So what proof is there in black and white of collusion in 'torture'  ?

P.S. Innocent people have been convicted before.

[DCI]

So what proof is there in black and white of collusion in 'torture'  ?

P.S. Innocent people have been convicted before.

Amaral was also convicted of fraud.

[ferryman]

So what proof is there in black and white of collusion in 'torture'  ?

P.S. Innocent people have been convicted before.

Is it a fact that Amaral has a conviction for covering up torture to Leonor Cipriano?

Or is it a fact that Amaral has a conviction for covering up torture to Leonor Cipriano?

A straight "yes" or "yes" will do

[stephen25000]

Is it a fact that Amaral has a conviction for covering up torture to Leonor Cipriano?

Or is it a fact that Amaral has a conviction for covering up torture to Leonor Cipriano?

A straight "yes" or "yes" will do

SO BY THAT LOGIC HONESTBROKER, ANYONE CONVICTED OF A CRIME IS GUILTY.

so you must agree CIPRIANO IS GULITY OF HER DAUGHTER'S MURDER ?

A simple 'yes' or 'yes' will do.