Author Topic: The beating and conviction of Leonor Cipriano  (Read 113378 times)

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AnneGuedes

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Re: The beating and conviction of Leonor Cipriano
« Reply #360 on: June 13, 2013, 06:32:17 PM »
Don't personally find it distasteful, merely intriguing, especially from self confessed atheists.
It's not necessary to be a Christian nor to believe this Jewish man historically existed, instead of being a conceptual character (a mixture of all Messiahs who popped up more than 2000 years ago in under Roman Empire domination Palestine) to find these words full of wisdom.

Offline Carana

Re: The beating and conviction of Leonor Cipriano
« Reply #361 on: June 13, 2013, 06:38:39 PM »
This is a woman who has six children, most who were farmed out to relatives, by five different fathers and a missing eight year old daughter with signs of sexual abuse of her underwear.

It is easy to clean up your home sadie, a damn sight harder to clean up your past.

Was her underwear ever tested by the lab? If so, what were the results?

Offline Puffin

Re: The beating and conviction of Leonor Cipriano
« Reply #362 on: June 13, 2013, 06:42:46 PM »
Don't personally find it distasteful, merely intriguing, especially from self confessed atheists.
I don't either, I quite enjoy fiction, on the whole that is.   8(0(*
Truth is the property of no individual but is the treasure of all men.
Ralph Waldo Emerson

Offline Mrs. B

Re: The beating and conviction of Leonor Cipriano
« Reply #363 on: June 13, 2013, 06:52:18 PM »
Was her underwear ever tested by the lab? If so, what were the results?

Yes, I'd be interested to see a credible link to that evidence, as I can't find it either.

Redblossom

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Re: The beating and conviction of Leonor Cipriano
« Reply #364 on: June 13, 2013, 07:15:19 PM »
lenoras common law husband leandro silva iirc gave evidence that she confessed  8)-)))to him what had happened, no doubt some will say this was tortured out of him too........

A small point that seems to be sooo overlooked here, why was a missing eight yr old child not reported to police by anybody until well past midnight after just going down the road to get a few groceries at 8pm

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icabodcrane

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Re: The beating and conviction of Leonor Cipriano
« Reply #365 on: June 13, 2013, 07:22:26 PM »
lenoras common law husband leandro silva iirc gave evidence that she confessed  8)-)))to him what had happened, no doubt some will say this was tortured out of him too........

A small point that seems to be sooo overlooked here, why was a missing eight yr old child not reported to police by anybody until well past midnight after just going down the road to get a few groceries at 8pm

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Is the common law husband Joana's father   ?

Redblossom

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Re: The beating and conviction of Leonor Cipriano
« Reply #366 on: June 13, 2013, 07:35:34 PM »
Is the common law husband Joana's father   ?

i am not sure, LL is the father of Joana, seems Silva was referred to as II, edited again, no I dont thnk he was her father


m) minor CC, in September 2004, was aged eight, being thin and measuring between 1,20 and 1,40 metres; (2)

n) minor CC was sometimes sad;

o) the arguida BB did not exercise any professional activity;

p) when the arguida was living with partner II, minor CC helped her mother with some home chores, as she sometimes helped to clean the house, took care of her younger siblings and went shopping;

q) before arguida BB moved in with her partner II, she wanted to stop having CC under her care, and left her, at the age of 5 months, with her father, LL – with whom she had no relationship since the beginning of the pregnancy – who ended up ‘returning’ her 2 days later, and later, she once more handed her over to the father, who didn’t want to keep her;

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« Last Edit: June 13, 2013, 07:42:26 PM by Redblossom »

Offline Mrs. B

Re: The beating and conviction of Leonor Cipriano
« Reply #367 on: June 13, 2013, 07:41:36 PM »
Torture charge for former Madeleine police chief
Updated: 09-Jul-2009

Former police chief Gonçalo Amaral, who led the Madeleine McCann investigation, has been charged with torturing a suspect in another missing child case.

Portugal’s public ministry has accused Gonçalo Amaral of torturing Leandro Silva, the partner of Leonor Cipriano who is in jail for the murder of her daughter Joana in 2004 (see the Algarve Resident edition, September 5, 2008).

Leandro Silva claims that the former police chief punched him in the abdomen and slapped him across the face in October 2004, with the help of two other unidentified police officers, while asking where the child’s body was hidden. Leandro Silva is asking for 500,000 euros in compensation.

Meanwhile, Leandro and Leonor’s lawyer, Marcos Aragão Correia has also made a claim of more than 500,000 euros against Gonçalo Amaral for defamation of character.

http://www.algarveresident.com/33288-32232/algarve/torture-charge-for-former-madeleine-police-chief

AnneGuedes

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Re: The beating and conviction of Leonor Cipriano
« Reply #368 on: June 13, 2013, 07:44:36 PM »
Leandro  da Silva isn't Joana's father.
Her father is Paulo Guerreiro.
« Last Edit: June 13, 2013, 07:49:02 PM by AnneGuedes »

Redblossom

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Re: The beating and conviction of Leonor Cipriano
« Reply #369 on: June 13, 2013, 07:45:09 PM »
Torture charge for former Madeleine police chief
Updated: 09-Jul-2009

Former police chief Gonçalo Amaral, who led the Madeleine McCann investigation, has been charged with torturing a suspect in another missing child case.

Portugal’s public ministry has accused Gonçalo Amaral of torturing Leandro Silva, the partner of Leonor Cipriano who is in jail for the murder of her daughter Joana in 2004 (see the Algarve Resident edition, September 5, 2008).

Leandro Silva claims that the former police chief punched him in the abdomen and slapped him across the face in October 2004, with the help of two other unidentified police officers, while asking where the child’s body was hidden. Leandro Silva is asking for 500,000 euros in compensation.

Meanwhile, Leandro and Leonor’s lawyer, Marcos Aragão Correia has also made a claim of more than 500,000 euros against Gonçalo Amaral for defamation of character.

http://www.algarveresident.com/33288-32232/algarve/torture-charge-for-former-madeleine-police-chief

And the reason they all waited years to say this was???? Oh they were waiting for a pro mccann psychic lawyer
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icabodcrane

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Re: The beating and conviction of Leonor Cipriano
« Reply #370 on: June 13, 2013, 07:47:14 PM »
i am not sure, LL is the father of Joana, seems Silva was referred to as II, edited again, no I dont thnk he was her father


m) minor CC, in September 2004, was aged eight, being thin and measuring between 1,20 and 1,40 metres; (2)

n) minor CC was sometimes sad;

o) the arguida BB did not exercise any professional activity;

p) when the arguida was living with partner II, minor CC helped her mother with some home chores, as she sometimes helped to clean the house, took care of her younger siblings and went shopping;

q) before arguida BB moved in with her partner II, she wanted to stop having CC under her care, and left her, at the age of 5 months, with her father, LL – with whom she had no relationship since the beginning of the pregnancy – who ended up ‘returning’ her 2 days later, and later, she once more handed her over to the father, who didn’t want to keep her;

Edited

Hard to imagine a more inadequate mother then  ...  no wonder the neighbours remarked at her uncaring treatment of little Joana   

   

Offline Mrs. B

Re: The beating and conviction of Leonor Cipriano
« Reply #371 on: June 13, 2013, 07:48:51 PM »
Dear me, you'd almost get the impression that some elements agree with torturing people. Interesting.

icabodcrane

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Re: The beating and conviction of Leonor Cipriano
« Reply #372 on: June 13, 2013, 07:49:59 PM »
Leandro  da Silva isn't Joana's father.

Does anyone know who  her real father  is  ? 

Redblossom

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Re: The beating and conviction of Leonor Cipriano
« Reply #373 on: June 13, 2013, 07:52:01 PM »
Dear me, you'd almost get the impression that some elements agree with torturing people. Interesting.

Your silly minds machinations are, well, just that


pathetic as usual

Wondering what YOUR theory is on why none  of her family reported her missing...... Took someone else to do it well past midnight,
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Online Eleanor

Re: The beating and conviction of Leonor Cipriano
« Reply #374 on: June 13, 2013, 07:53:04 PM »
Dear me, you'd almost get the impression that some elements agree with torturing people. Interesting.

Some elements have actually said they do.  One almost hopes those elements never find themselves in the same position.