Jeremy Bamber YouTube video suggesting guilt?

[Nicholas]

Statement 2)

Police were alerted to the crime scene by a phone call to the local police office by Nevill and June's son Jeremy at 3.26am from his cottage 3 miles away, who said he'd just taken a phone call from his father stating "Please come over, Sheila has gone crazy, she has the gun". It was testified and corroborated by multiple witnesses that Jeremy telephoned his girlfriend Julie before 3.15am.

It might be important to relay that Bamber said he received the call from Nevill at 03:10 because the timeline is important.

As is Bamber’s behaviour at the crime scene

[Nicholas]

So that's about the first minute of the video, with six statements staying on screen for 10 seconds. Have covered the bare facts of the murders, the alleged and actual phone calls, Bamber's descriptions of his sister at the crime scene, and his direction to destroy crime scene materials. Probably need more attacking the phone call alibi, before moving onto the non existent crime scene evidence against Sheila, the silencer. Then Jeremy's actions after the murders. Holidays, high living, lust for money, ignoring his family etc. Then Julie's testimony of pre and post crime behaviours and any other circumstantial evidence.

Re Bamber ‘actions’ and ‘behaviour’

He’s been described as a sexual predator and his actions and behaviour certainly appears to support this

[Truth SKR1]

Thanks, Caroline 👍. Both statements amended to reflect those additional facts.

[Truth SKR1]

Thanks, Nicholas. I'm unsure there's anything in that drawing reflecting any guilt, tho. Firmly agree about his gaslighting.

[Nicholas]

Thanks, Nicholas. I'm unsure there's anything in that drawing reflecting any guilt, tho. Firmly agree about his gaslighting.

What about Bamber’s coercive controlling behaviour?

‘Coercive control is a behavioural regime & strategic pattern of behaviour in a relationship & throughout relationships to dominate, exploit & entrap’ (Laura Richards - 2021)

[Nicholas]

Thanks, Nicholas. I'm unsure there's anything in that drawing reflecting any guilt, tho. Firmly agree about his gaslighting.

Don’t forget Bamber’s a diagnosed psychopath

If he’s been assessed by 27 individuals since the original diagnosis (pre trial assessment) - as claimed by his supporters - are those 27 individuals fit to practice ?

Kerry Beckley’s assessment of Bamber was appalling https://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/Admin/2020/2842.html

In October 2019 Kerry Beckley stated via twitter,

“Parole board should not act as a criminal court’

Yet

Para 27.
‘The judge said it was not disputed by the Secretary of State that Dr Beckley had not concluded that a risk assessment of risk was impossible. She merely concluded (at [27.1] that 'it is difficult to develop a comprehensive formulation of the risk that (the Claimant) poses to the public based upon the available information'. Later, in the same paragraph she repeated that 'it is difficult to further develop the formulation (of risk) without full access to the trial documents due to (the Claimant's) maintained innocence.'

[Truth SKR1]

I was not aware of that transcript, or the above. Something new to read, thanks. I believe he fits the traits of psychopathy very well, but hard to fit in and be conclusive about via these short statements.

[Nicholas]

I was not aware of that transcript, or the above. Something new to read, thanks. I believe he fits the traits of psychopathy very well, but hard to fit in and be conclusive about via these short statements.

What about Bamber’s coercive controlling behaviour?

‘Coercive control is a behavioural regime & strategic pattern of behaviour in a relationship & throughout relationships to dominate, exploit & entrap’ (Laura Richards - 2021)

Bamber’s coercive controlling behaviour is a matter of public record in all his relationships

[Caroline]

As is Bamber’s behaviour at the crime scene

I agree but it's kind of subjective and always gets the reaction of "everyone behaves different in grief".

But you're right, it was enough to spark suspicion from people who witness with grief regularly.

[Nicholas]

I agree but it's kind of subjective and always gets the reaction of "everyone behaves different in grief".

But you're right, it was enough to spark suspicion from people who witness with grief regularly.

Thanks for pointing that out Caroline 

Bamber’s alleged grief

So grief stricken was Bamber following the murders - at ‘ tea time’ he paid a visit to Charles Marsden and the pair of them went out for a chat and a pint.

The same Charles Marsden Bamber referred to as a liar.

Then he had his mother’s beloved dog Crispy put down

Robert McTaggart Hill, w/s, 14 October 1985; vet with Neill & Scott, Maldon.

Jeremy Bamber called him on 8 August and he went to Bourtree:

‘On my arrival Mr Jeremy Bamber told me that he wished me to put down the Shih Tzu dog that had belonged to Mrs Bamber, his mother. He said that the dog was very attached to his mother, and since her death, he thought that the dog should not go to another home. He also said that the dog had turned a bit nasty since the killings at WHF and it was a bit snappy. I also spoke with Mr Jeremy Bamber about finding a new home for another dog from WHF, this was a black Labrador gun dog. He seemed concerned that the dog should be found another home on a farm but if that didn’t work out that dog should also be put down. Through the vet’s practise another home was found for this dog at Corporation Farm at Maldon and we housed the dog on Friday, 9 August 1985… Mr J Bamber brought the dog to the surgery on that afternoon. On the occasions I saw Jeremy Bamber, he seemed upset when I saw him on 8.8.85 but he seemed to be more composed on 9.8.85 when I saw him in Maldon at the surgery. On the latter occasion he explained that he was on tranquillisers. I knew nothing of Jeremy Bamber or his family prior to 8.8.85.’

...while he coerced Julie into identifying the bodies of his family members

And didn’t he visit Mr Cock the solicitor before calling on Charles Marsden out of the blue?

Was Bamber also the ‘close friend’ who tipped of Keiron Saunders at the Sun newspaper claiming Sheila,
“had been taking methadone, a heroin substitute”

“Jeremy was on the phone to his father from his home in the nearby village of Goldhanger when he heard a shot echo down the line”
(The Sun - 8th Aug 1985 by Kieron Saunders)

[Nicholas]

Bamber’s alleged grief

Within days of his families funerals Bamber was sat on the sofa at Angela Greave’s flat in London making a move on her - even though according to Charles Marsden he was in a relationship with her sister Virginia ?

And didn’t he also propose marriage to one of the Greave sisters whilst telling Brett Collins he was planning a trip to New Zealand with him?

[Nicholas]

Does anyone know when Angela Greave’s found out Bamber was also in a relationship with her sister?

And did she (Anji) know about her sister Virginia and Bamber’s relationship when she was waiting for him in the hotel in London following his murder trial or did he lie to Charles Marsden about the relationship with Virginia?

“Occasionally choking on her words, she told the court about the night at Caterham Road, when she had begged him to remain with her, and the angry confrontation at Sheila’s flat when she discovered that Jeremy had begun dating a former girlfriend,”

(Courtesy of Carol Ann Lee from her book, ‘The Murders at White House Farm’)
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=Rj14BwAAQBAJ&pg=PA317&lpg=PA317&dq=the+sun+anji+greaves+jeremy+bamber&source=bl&ots=h8PnNHTkTl&sig=ACfU3U1NpuMY9WW_GJ0UKEtiEAeZmVwONg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwics4rWi4LpAhWEoFwKHYIID8oQ6AEwBHoECAoQAQ#v=onepage&q=the%20sun%20anji%20greaves%20jeremy%20bamber&f=false

‘Anji later told the Sun that she and Jeremy became lovers before his arrest and it was their affair, rather than his with her sister, that had led to Julie being so inflamed with jealousy that she named him as the murderer”
(Carol Anne Lee - The Murders at White House Farm)

Wouldn’t be at all surprised to learn Bamber coerced Virginia to perjure herself during his murder trial

[Nicholas]

So that's about the first minute of the video, with six statements staying on screen for 10 seconds. Have covered the bare facts of the murders, the alleged and actual phone calls, Bamber's descriptions of his sister at the crime scene, and his direction to destroy crime scene materials. Probably need more attacking the phone call alibi, before moving onto the non existent crime scene evidence against Sheila, the silencer. Then Jeremy's actions after the murders. Holidays, high living, lust for money, ignoring his family etc. Then Julie's testimony of pre and post crime behaviours and any other circumstantial evidence.

Don’t forget Bamber’s ‘coercive controlling’ of Julie



So, what exactly is coercive control?
”Coercive control is a strategic pattern of behaviour designed to exploit, control, create dependency and dominate. The victim’s every day existence is micro managed and her space for action as well as potential as a human being is limited and controlled by the abuser.

Initially lovebombing and charm may occur to get the victim into the relationship. Gaslighting, isolation, economic control and financial abuse and rules and regulations are gradually introduced over time once the victim is emotionally invested as well as a consequence if they are broken. The rules apply to the victim rather the perpetrator creating a double standard and the victim fears the consequence if she breaks a rule.

Over time, coercively controlling behaviour erodes the victim’s sense of self, their confidence and self-esteem, agency and autonomy.

The abuser creates an unreal world of contradiction, confusion and fear. Moreover 51% of victims do not even know that they are being abused, manipulated and controlled.

Coercive control correlates significantly to serious harm and homicide.

Where did the term ‘coercive control’ originate from?

A number of feminist psychologists in the 1970s identified the domestic abuse victims that they worked with as living like hostages and coined the term ‘coercive control.’

This dangerous form of abuse relies on a range of behaviours or actions that can be very subtle and nuanced. The intention is to exploit and dominate and to ultimately deprive the victim of their most basic rights and needs. Over time, the victim may lose the very essence of being, the sense of who they are, their likes and dislikes, rendering their needs and desires irrelevant – hence hostage taking and living under an enforced regime.

At first the perpetrator may be charming and put the victim on a pedestal by the effective tactic of love bombing. Once under their spell, love bombed and intoxicated with love, their behaviour will change. The victim might wonder where the person they fell in love with went. They may not even recall when the change took place or how it happened.

Coercive Control is Akin to Brainwashing

The art of brainwashing is sophisticated. The abuser replaces the victim’s inner narrative and thoughts with their own. Gradually, the victim’s voice is eroded and replaced with the abuser’s narrative – their views, needs, desires, wants which is placed above all else.

The behaviours can be very different in each case because it depends on the victimology. It’s very idiosyncratic to the victim and tailor-made as a plan to target them. And it can happen to anyone.

These behaviours can include strategies such as pseudo-caring tactics that appear to be attentive and thoughtful, while in reality the perpetrator is actually just micro managing the victim and limiting their space for action. They may appear super attentive and into the victim in the beginning, but all the while they may be social engineering and data mining and storing up information about the intended victim or creating an atmosphere of co-dependence.

When we understand coercive control, it’s really about utter domination.
By Laura Richards - https://www.laurarichards.co.uk/coercive-control/


What are some of the signs of coercive control?
Isolation – controlling who you can speak to, monitoring you online and/or offline, checking up on you, monopolising your time, creating drama when you want to go out preventing you from making your own choices about when you go out, preventing access to transport and limiting your time with others.

Pressuring you to do things you don’t want to do – making you feel bad and guilt tripping you to do things, policing what you wear

Inserting in relationships – taking over relationships, edging you out of your relationships, telling people not to speak with you

Criticising and verbal abuse – undermining you, shouting, unpicking you, accusing you, name calling, putting you down, using information you have shared against you

Gaslighting you – distorting the reality to upend and manipulate you

Threats – using physical size to intimidate, using gestures, threatening family, friends or pets (those you care about the most), breaking things, punching walls, driving fast to intimidate, picking up weapons whilst talking with you, threatening to self-harm or commit suicide.

Charm – putting you on a pedestal, being overly attentive, buttering you up (to knock you down or manipulate), using charm to disarm and when it suits to manipulate or just in front of others to create a false impression.

Rules and Regulation – setting the rules to live by (just applies to you and not them), dinner on the table at a certain time, dress a certain way, hair a certain way, micro management of your life.

Disrespect – disrespecting you in front of others, interrupting you when you are with others, not listening or responding to you, taking your money, logging into your accounts, refusing to help you with shared household affairs, work or children, saying you cause the abuse or that you are to blame, lying to you, cheating on you, embarrassing you in front of others, sharing secrets, being jealous, monopolising your time, breaking promises or agreements, appropriating or denying you access to resources required for personhood and citizenship.

Stalking – following you, monitoring you online/offline, appearing in places you go to, watching you, using others to watch you.

Physical abuse – punching, kicking, slapping, pinching, burning, pinning you down, putting hands around the neck, biting, pulling hair, shoving.

Economic abuse – controlling finances, preventing you from working, making you ask for money, giving you an allowance, taking your money, making you work multiple jobs whilst they do nothing, not allowing you access to family income, putting debt in your name.

Sexual abuse – forcing you to have sex, pressuring you, making you have sex with others, taking pictures or videos, forcing you to watch porn, demeaning you sexually, demeaning you sexually in front of others, calling you names.

Sadly and paradoxically, it is the victim who is often blamed and shamed for the perpetrator’s behaviour, as if they are somehow complicit due to the familiarity of the setting where the abuse occurs. Most perpetrators are serial and hone their tradecraft over time by practicing on different victims.

We must focus on their behaviour and shift the responsibility back on to them. It is much more about what they do, how they do it and how they get away with it. Reframing the victim’s predicament as hostage-like and calling it coercive control helps dispels this misconception and ensuring serial perpetrators are on a register, just like sex offenders, would create the seismic cultural shift needed.
https://www.laurarichards.co.uk/what-are-the-signs-of-coercive-control/

[Truth SKR1]

Thanks, Nicholas. Short 2-3 sentence statements is the plan. Coercive control of relationships and indeed his inability to sustain any long-term relationships of any kind. Those factors could make up a couple of statements, but hard to effectively summarise. I'm not sure he was able to sustain any pre-murders relationships after his incarceration by letter or visit? Sue Ford, maybe?

[Nicholas]

Thanks, Nicholas. Short 2-3 sentence statements is the plan. Coercive control of relationships and indeed his inability to sustain any long-term relationships at all. Those factors could make up a couple of statements, but hard to effectively summarise. I'm not sure he was able to sustain any pre-murders relationships after his incarceration by letter or visit? Sue Ford, maybe?

Bamber and his supporters have placed a false narrative into the public domain since the day he murdered his 5 family members

‘Hard to effectively summarise’ but not impossible

‘Coercive control is a behavioural regime & strategic pattern of behaviour in a relationship & throughout relationships to dominate, exploit & entrap’ (Laura Richards - 2021)