Charlotte Pennington - what is the truth?

[Eleanor]

Surely you are aware of the quotes.  As I said only parts of the actual original quote are still available on the internet. 

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=7864.msg373004#msg373004

"Do you accept that she made the statements recorded in this article?  http://www.infobae.com/2007/08/15/331952-crecen-las-sospechas-contra-los-padres-madeleine/

In particular:
1. "The technical director of the Ocean Club resort, Silvia Batista, stated that the same night that Madeleine disappeared, she personally offered the childcare service "because the hotel is responsible for the children of the clients, but they Rejected ".

2. "According to the director of the housing, " every month have theft records in place, so a nanny service are advised " but even knowing this, Maddie's parents did not accept it "

3.  "We were not to blame for the disappearance of the child, I could not say whose fault it was, but it was not ours," said the director, noting that "the parents of the girl that night were very careless", and that is why they didn't ask for the babysitting service."


In 3 there are clear hints of a conflict of interest.  She is basically declaring that she and the OC are not guilty, like responsible  for Madeleine's disappearance. Then she goes on to say something like it wouldn't have happened had the parents not refused the babysitting service.
Is Silvia involved in providing the nanny service?  If she personally offered it earlier that day it sounds like she had some involvement in providing the service.

These issues are not raised in her statement yet seem very important to the case.  Why were they not raised with the PJ in her statement?"

The McCanns chose not to use the Free Night Creche.  It's quite simple.  The McCanns knew about it but didn't use it.

Understandable when you consider moving three small. sleeping children.

Hindsight is a great thing.

[G-Unit]

The McCanns chose not to use the Free Night Creche.  It's quite simple.  The McCanns knew about it but didn't use it.

Understandable when you consider moving three small. sleeping children.

Hindsight is a great thing.

Most parents develop foresight. "Don't run you'll fall" "Don't touch that it's hot" and the very well-known and basic; "I can't come out I don't have a babysitter".

[Eleanor]

Most parents develop foresight. "Don't run you'll fall" "Don't touch that it's hot" and the very well-known and basic; "I can't come out I don't have a babysitter".

Most parents don't expect their child to be abducted from her bed.  Other dangers can be avoided with a bit of common sense.

[Brietta]

Surely you are aware of the quotes.  As I said only parts of the actual original quote are still available on the internet. 

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=7864.msg373004#msg373004

"Do you accept that she made the statements recorded in this article?  http://www.infobae.com/2007/08/15/331952-crecen-las-sospechas-contra-los-padres-madeleine/

In particular:
1. "The technical director of the Ocean Club resort, Silvia Batista, stated that the same night that Madeleine disappeared, she personally offered the childcare service "because the hotel is responsible for the children of the clients, but they Rejected ".

2. "According to the director of the housing, " every month have theft records in place, so a nanny service are advised " but even knowing this, Maddie's parents did not accept it "

3.  "We were not to blame for the disappearance of the child, I could not say whose fault it was, but it was not ours," said the director, noting that "the parents of the girl that night were very careless", and that is why they didn't ask for the babysitting service."


In 3 there are clear hints of a conflict of interest.  She is basically declaring that she and the OC are not guilty, like responsible  for Madeleine's disappearance. Then she goes on to say something like it wouldn't have happened had the parents not refused the babysitting service.
Is Silvia involved in providing the nanny service?  If she personally offered it earlier that day it sounds like she had some involvement in providing the service.

These issues are not raised in her statement yet seem very important to the case.  Why were they not raised with the PJ in her statement?"

1. "The technical director of the Ocean Club resort, Silvia Batista, stated that the same night that Madeleine disappeared, she personally offered the childcare service "because the hotel is responsible for the children of the clients, but they Rejected ".

I have googled that and have not received a hit from any of silvia Batista's PJ statements or of any worthwhile provenance.  I have found it mentioned in blogs inimically hostile to the McCann family.

In my opinion it is a falsehood and just one of many put about at the time of Madeleine's disappearance and since and as such is not worthy of mention on a forum such as this.
Am I wrong in thinking this?

[slartibartfast]

1. "The technical director of the Ocean Club resort, Silvia Batista, stated that the same night that Madeleine disappeared, she personally offered the childcare service "because the hotel is responsible for the children of the clients, but they Rejected ".

I have googled that and have not received a hit from any of silvia Batista's PJ statements or of any worthwhile provenance.  I have found it mentioned in blogs inimically hostile to the McCann family.

In my opinion it is a falsehood and just one of many put about at the time of Madeleine's disappearance and since and as such is not worthy of mention on a forum such as this.
Am I wrong in thinking this?

The newspaper article says that this is what she said. Why would the paper or the manager make it up?

[G-Unit]

Most parents don't expect their child to be abducted from her bed.  Other dangers can be avoided with a bit of common sense.

Most parents don't leave their kids home alone in an unlocked  apartment and it's got nothing to do with the fear or the likelihood of abduction imo.

[Mr Gray]

The newspaper article says that this is what she said. Why would the paper or the manager make it up?

we could say the same raeson they make so much else up....or it could be because they are not  too fussy about the sources of information, I seem to remember the sun making direct quotes from sil that he said he didnt make

[Eleanor]

The newspaper article says that this is what she said. Why would the paper or the manager make it up?

Is this joke?  Why would the paper or manager make it up?  They did, frequently.

[Brietta]

The newspaper article says that this is what she said. Why would the paper or the manager make it up?

I think if there is perhaps one thing where the majority of members have consensus it is the perfidy of the press, of which there are far too many examples to enumerate.

Why would you suppose they had any scruples about printing lies in this or any other instance.  What newspaper article are you referring to anyway? 
On googling the phrase ... I only saw it mentioned in internet blogs of the most questionable type and neither Portuguese or any other MSM.

[faithlilly]

I think if there is perhaps one thing where the majority of members have consensus it is the perfidy of the press, of which there are far too many examples to enumerate.

Why would you suppose they had any scruples about printing lies in this or any other instance.  What newspaper article are you referring to anyway? 
On googling the phrase ... I only saw it mentioned in internet blogs of the most questionable type and neither Portuguese or any other MSM.

If the press is so perfidious ( btw I agree ) why do you cut and paste great swathes of their reportage quite so often ?

[slartibartfast]

Is this joke?  Why would the paper or manager make it up?  They did, frequently.

Suggesting the manager made it up is libel.

[Brietta]

Suggesting the manager made it up is libel.

Do you have an actual cite for the manager saying anything of the kind, please?

I did ask you ... http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=10342.msg499764#msg499764 but you appear to have missed my post.

[Alice Purjorick]

"because the hotel is responsible for the children of the clients"


Would someone care to explain how the OC pick up that liablity for those in accommodation without the OC ?
While you are at it explain the contractual relationships that cause this liability to be picked up?

"She must know what she is talking about" does not cut it I am afraid.

[Eleanor]

Suggesting the manager made it up is libel.

Not Libel.  They did.

[Robittybob1]

1. "The technical director of the Ocean Club resort, Silvia Batista, stated that the same night that Madeleine disappeared, she personally offered the childcare service "because the hotel is responsible for the children of the clients, but they Rejected ".

I have googled that and have not received a hit from any of silvia Batista's PJ statements or of any worthwhile provenance.  I have found it mentioned in blogs inimically hostile to the McCann family.

In my opinion it is a falsehood and just one of many put about at the time of Madeleine's disappearance and since and as such is not worthy of mention on a forum such as this.
Am I wrong in thinking this?

There would be many occasions where an article appears in a paper, it is then quoted, but the newspaper company folds so all references from the main source are lost.
The articles on the McCann case produced by the "News of the World" would be one good example.