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Alleged Miscarriages of Justice => Jeremy Bamber and the callous murder of his father, mother, sister and twin nephews. Case effectively CLOSED by CCRC on basis of NO APPEAL REFERRAL. => Topic started by: Holly Goodhead on June 13, 2015, 01:16:29 AM
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http://www.fishpond.com.au/Books/Deviant-Paul-Harrison/9781904091929
"Penned by crime writer and former police officer Paul Harrison, Deviant is the only book on the subject written by someone in attendance at the 1986 trial of Jeremy Bamber, accused of murdering five members of his family in the dead of night at White House Farm in Essex.A culmination of three decades of research, in the course of this work the author has interviewed all the key investigative police officers and lawyers, and communicated with the convicted murderer and a number of his associates.The investigation has taken the author around the globe arousing a great deal of publicity and, in the process, antagonised the small band of fanatical supporters of the killer resulting in a number of death threats. The author has also incurred the displeasure of Essex Police, highlighting incompetence and internal subterfuge, issues which clearly hampered the prosecution of the crime.With startling evidence never before seen and a dramatic conclusion this, for the first time in print, is the real story of what happened the night three adults and two children were bludgeoned and shot to death at White House Farm."
About the Author
"A police officer covering three decades, Paul Harrison operated in a number of investigative roles and was for a time an undercover officer. He was one of the first in the UK to work closely with the FBI on psychological profiling and, as a result of further research, he has interviewed many serial killers and mass murderers across the globe, collating crime profiles on each one. Since retiring from the police he has become a crime writer and historian, a field in which he is highly regarded and through which he has become a popular speaker at police and crime writing conferences. He also acts as a media crime consultant working with authors and writers in creating police and crime storylines and is credited with creating professional personalities of some of the best known detectives on television.He has a number of books to his name including Dancing with the Devil, the story of Glasgow serial killer Bible John, and is currently working on a book covering the lives and psychology of killers he has interviewed and another featuring some of the worst inmates of Wakefield's notorious prison.Away from a life of police and crime, he is an ardent football supporter and suffers the travails of his hometown club, Leeds United."
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We have heard all this baloney before in other real life cases as book sales is the name of the game.
One observation, the three adults and two children were not bludgeoned and shot to death at White House Farm so nil ponts to Waterstones for the intro...bad start!!
(http://images.foyles.co.uk/xlarge/books/img/1/9/0/9781904091929.jpg)
http://www.waterstones.com/book/deviant/paul-harrison/9781904091929
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I would strongly recommend anyone intending to read 'Deviant' also reads Paul Harrison's book:
"The Cupboard Under the Stairs: A Boy Trapped in Hell..."
It is available as an e-book from Amazon using their free reading app: Whispernet:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Cupboard-Under-Stairs-Trapped/dp/1845967895
I would describe the book as a sort of auto-biography. Two things stood out for me. Firstly Paul tells how he failed his maths CSE exam at school and also the police entrance exams as he struggled with maths. Lots of people struggle with maths so nothing particularly significant in this. However Paul then goes on to describe all sorts of horrors with his family, school teachers, employers, and just about everyone he ever encounters. This ranges from claims of serious abuse to being beaten up senseless by absolute strangers for no apparent reason. I found myself coming back to one recurring question, based on the laws of probability what are the statistical chances of all this happening to one seemingly average guy born in Carlisle in 1959 and bred in the UK?
Secondly it appears his police career wasn't plain sailing. As I said he failed his entrance exams circa 1977 but his father, also a serving officer, apparently pulled a few strings. He then details roles of dog handler, armed officer on nuclear convoy escort duties (he was firearm trained) and undercover intelligence officer dealing with football hooliganism. Apparently his last months of active service, circa 1997, were littered with confrontations with senior police officers and those in authority. After sustaining injuries while on duty that caused him to be classed as 'disabled' he was forced into a period of rehabilitation. He suffered damage to his knees from which he would never fully recover. Although he doesn't say how this damage occurred. Apparently the official line from the police was that he no longer fulfilled the criteria for being an active police officer as he was unable to kneel, bend or rely on his knees to support him. He doesn't actually ever make reference to any rank, or working closely with the FBI on psychological profiling as claimed above.
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Shall I go for the one with the more attractive cover (and prettiest author), or the earth-shaker that's (hopefully) going to end the Bamber saga once and for all?
(http://i.imgur.com/BRnsTaw.jpg)
.. or maybe plump for the cheaper of the two hardbacks. Just noticed that Foyles have cut the 'Deviant' pre-order price by £2.80, so it's now only £11.19 plus free devilry.
But is that thick low enough for pugsy and her wonky whotsit?
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Shall I go for the one with the more attractive cover (and prettiest author), or the earth-shaker that's (hopefully) going to end the Bamber saga once and for all?
(http://i.imgur.com/BRnsTaw.jpg)
.. or maybe plump for the cheaper of the two hardbacks. Just noticed that Foyles have cut the 'Deviant' pre-order price by £2.80, so it's now only £11.19 plus free devilry.
But is that thick low enough for pugsy and her wonky whotsit?
If it is I think she will need to turn the cover as those eyes staring up her leg will send her running for the hills 8)><(
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If it is I think she will need to turn the cover as those eyes staring up her leg will send her running for the hills 8)><(
Too right. I'm not having those beady mincers peering at my wonky whotsit.
I don't really feel inclined to throw any more money at books about Bamber. I'm sure I'll get the gist of both books on here, and I'm equally sure that if either book contained something earth-shattering it would have leaked out by now, to boost sales. Who, apart from a few crime-geeks and a handful of others, is going to buy these books?
(Sorry, DarcySarto, if you're who I think you are 8(8-)) )
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Too right. I'm not having those beady mincers peering at my wonky whotsit.
I don't really feel inclined to throw any more money at books about Bamber. I'm sure I'll get the gist of both books on here, and I'm equally sure that if either book contained something earth-shattering it would have leaked out by now, to boost sales. Who, apart from a few crime-geeks and a handful of others, is going to buy these books?
(Sorry, DarcySarto, if you're who I think you are 8(8-)) )
Mincers = mince pies, eyes.
Wonky whotsit =
www.youtube.com/watch?v=wayRYHG0kUo
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Mincers = mince pies, eyes.
Wonky whotsit =
www.youtube.com/watch?v=wayRYHG0kUo
Wonky whotsit = furniture
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=m1pD2rLR1_g
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Mincers = mince pies, eyes.
Wonky whotsit =
www.youtube.com/watch?v=wayRYHG0kUo
Goodnight petal x
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Goodnight petal x
Goodnight, duck. XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Much as I love you, I don't understand why you insist on supporting Bamber. I hate to labour a point, but if there was any human blood in the silencer, it HAD to be Bamber.
I hope he dies, lonely and scared.
I will never forgive him for killing the boys.
Karma, baby!!!
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Goodnight, duck. XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Much as I love you, I don't understand why you insist on supporting Bamber. I hate to labour a point, but if there was any human blood in the silencer, it HAD to be Bamber.
I hope he dies, lonely and scared.
I will never forgive him for killing the boys.
Karma, baby!!!
I don't support JB per se just think in all probability he's a MoJ and test my theories/arguments! I don't believe anyone, even Mike, would support a double child killer if they thought for one moment JB was responsible.
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I don't support JB per se just think in all probability he's a MoJ and test my theories/arguments! I don't believe anyone, even Mike, would support a double child killer if they thought for one moment JB was responsible.
Hang on, Holl.....Mike Tesko? Fat little bloke, wears clothes from Oxfam, lives in sheltered housing, eats Monster Munch, would nick the gold out of your teeth, solves crimes with his dog........are we using HIM as a point of reference now? &%+((£
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Hang on, Holl.....Mike Tesko? Fat little bloke, wears clothes from Oxfam, lives in sheltered housing, eats pickled onion flavoured Monster Munch, would nick the gold out of your teeth, solves crimes with his dog........are we using HIM as a point of reference now? &%+((£
Lowest common denominator 8((()*/
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http://www.fishpond.com.au/Books/Deviant-Paul-Harrison/9781904091929
"Penned by crime writer and former police officer Paul Harrison, Deviant is the only book on the subject written by someone in attendance at the 1986 trial of Jeremy Bamber, accused of murdering five members of his family in the dead of night at White House Farm in Essex.A culmination of three decades of research, in the course of this work the author has interviewed all the key investigative police officers and lawyers, and communicated with the convicted murderer and a number of his associates.The investigation has taken the author around the globe arousing a great deal of publicity and, in the process, antagonised the small band of fanatical supporters of the killer resulting in a number of death threats. The author has also incurred the displeasure of Essex Police, highlighting incompetence and internal subterfuge, issues which clearly hampered the prosecution of the crime.With startling evidence never before seen and a dramatic conclusion this, for the first time in print, is the real story of what happened the night three adults and two children were bludgeoned and shot to death at White House Farm."
About the Author
"A police officer covering three decades, Paul Harrison operated in a number of investigative roles and was for a time an undercover officer.He was one of the first in the UK to work closely with the FBI on psychological profiling and, as a result of further research, he has interviewed many serial killers and mass murderers across the globe, collating crime profiles on each one. Since retiring from the police he has become a crime writer and historian, a field in which he is highly regarded and through which he has become a popular speaker at police and crime writing conferences. He also acts as a media crime consultant working with authors and writers in creating police and crime storylines and is credited with creating professional personalities of some of the best known detectives on television.He has a number of books to his name including Dancing with the Devil, the story of Glasgow serial killer Bible John, and is currently working on a book covering the lives and psychology of killers he has interviewed and another featuring some of the worst inmates of Wakefield's notorious prison.Away from a life of police and crime, he is an ardent football supporter and suffers the travails of his hometown club, Leeds United."
Talking about Wakefield prison reminded me of the above highlighted in red. As far as I can see PH has no relevant qualifications to undertake professional assessment of prisoners? I've no idea what the rules are with authors in this regard? Can anyone turn up at a high security prison on the basis they want to interview and write about prisoners? When David James Smith, journalist, interviewed JB for The Times he had to jump through many hoops:
"It has taken months to reach this moment, and I have jumped through many hoops to make it happen, layer after layer of permissions have been necessary, up through the highest echelons of government".
http://davidjamessmith.net/pdf_articles/DJS_bamber.pdf
I guess PH might not necessarily be referring to face-to-face interviews but interviews conducted via letters?
PH often refers to the psychological profiling of criminals eg above and in the Scottish Express article:
"He added: "Having studied and worked within psychological and criminal profiling since the late 1980s, I know how the criminal mind works".
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/524489/Mass-killer-Jeremy-Bamber-s-threat-to-Scots-author-Harrison
According to PH's book, which I described as a sort of auto-biography, he was a Detective Sergeant in 1989 and left the police force around 1997 circa 38 yoa. Something about this doesn't quite ring true:
1. Profiling involves a lot of statistical work and by PH's own admission his maths is very poor failing his maths CSE exam and the police entrance exams (father who was a serving officer pulled a few strings and he was given the answers).
2. I'm not sure what PH was doing during his last circa 8 years of service ie whether he was promoted but if his rank remained at Detective Sergeant I'm surprised he was one of the first to be picked to work with the FBI on criminal profiling?
3. He appears to have been invalided out of the police force with a small lump sum payment. This was on the basis that he no longer fulfilled the criteria for being an active police officer as he was unable to kneel, bend or rely on his knees to support him. But if he had a desk based job working with the FBI on criminal profiling would physical fitness be a necessary requirement?
I really couldn't give a flying fig what anyone writes about JB whether they be posters, authors, journalists or anyone. Everyone has right to express his/her opinion/views as far as I'm concerned but what I don't like is BS.
On a separate note PH states in his book he despised wrongdoing and corruption in the police force and yet he seems to fail to note the irony in that his entrance into the police force was based on wrongdoing and corruption @)(++(*
Perhaps Reader on Blue hit the nail on the head from the off when he picked up on one of PH's posts where PH stated he hated deliberate lies and Reader pointed out that all lies are by definition deliberate @)(++(*
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Actually PH's book refers to his rank as sergeant. I think I must have got carried away with the detective bit! He may well have been a detective but I can only see reference to the title of sergeant. Apparently a detective is plain clothed, trained in criminal investigations and attached to CID but equal in rank to their uniformed counterparts.
See relevant section for role and duties of sergeant:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergeant#United_Kingdom
This shows the rank structure:
https://www.policeuk.com/police_ranks.php
Basically Sergeant is one rank from entry level of Constable.
Have other ex-officers turned to writing? Albert Kirby intends to write a book. He reached the rank of Detective Superintendent:
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/james-bulger-remembered-albert-kirby-3322230
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Can't wait to read this promised revealing new evidence, won't hold my breath though.
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Wow it's so bad I feel embarrassed for him!
The 'smoking gun' is a letter PH claims he received from from an old lag, published in full, claiming SC was JB's accomplice! I had to skip to the end to get that. I'm up to page 31 and for the most part all he has done is slag of JB's "disciples".
It's clear few have contributed. Those who have are in the main now deceased: DS Jones, DI Miller, ACC Simpson and Ed Lawson QC and therefore are unable to confirm or deny PH's claims.
The guy is completely barking IMO and makes Mike look sane @)(++(*
Hope he stays holed up on the sparsely populated island and doesn't decide to relocate to the mainland.
He obviously never learns. On the first page he states he has had to endure deliberate lies published on the internet about him. Reader on Blue kindly pointed out to him when he was posting and made reference to deliberate lies that all lies are by definition deliberate @)(++(*
I wonder why he is so fixated on "deliberate lies" @)(++(*
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He has acknowledged Caroline as his "talented researcher" ?>)()<
So not Keira then? @)(++(* @)(++(* @)(++(* @)(++(* @)(++(*
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So not Keira then? @)(++(* @)(++(* @)(++(* @)(++(* @)(++(*
Why not? Coz PH says not? @)(++(* @)(++(* @)(++(* @)(++(*
Pleased you can see the funny side of being associated with such drivel!
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Why not? Coz PH says not? @)(++(* @)(++(* @)(++(* @)(++(*
Pleased you can see the funny side of being associated with such drivel!
I just see the funny side of you! @)(++(* @)(++(* @)(++(* @)(++(* @)(++(*
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I just see the funny side of you! @)(++(* @)(++(* @)(++(* @)(++(* @)(++(*
How's this for funny then. Inside cover of Deviant "Penned by crime writer and former police officer Paul Harrison, Deviant is the only book on the subject written by someone in attendance at the 1986 trial of Jeremy Bamber...,"
Page 137: "I [PH] was fortunate in that one such encounter was with a gentleman called Ed Lawson QC. I had no idea at the time, but within minutes of sharing refreshments with him I learned that he had been the junior for Geoffrey Rivlin, Bamber's defence council at the murder trial".
@)(++(* @)(++(* @)(++(* @)(++(*
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How's this for funny then. Inside cover of Deviant "Penned by crime writer and former police officer Paul Harrison, Deviant is the only book on the subject written by someone in attendance at the 1986 trial of Jeremy Bamber...,"
Page 137: "I [PH] was fortunate in that one such encounter was with a gentleman called Ed Lawson QC. I had no idea at the time, but within minutes of sharing refreshments with him I learned that he had been the junior for Geoffrey Rivlin, Bamber's defence council at the murder trial".
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The intonation being? I don't think any trial has a 'cast list'. Why would someone at the trial remember all the names and faces of every member of the defence/prosecution?
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Wow it's so bad I feel embarrassed for him!
The 'smoking gun' is a letter PH claims he received from from an old lag, published in full, claiming SC was JB's accomplice! I had to skip to the end to get that. I'm up to page 31 and for the most part all he has done is slag of JB's "disciples".
It's clear few have contributed. Those who have are in the main now deceased: DS Jones, DI Miller, ACC Simpson and Ed Lawson QC and therefore are unable to confirm or deny PH's claims.
The guy is completely barking IMO and makes Mike look sane @)(++(*
Hope he stays holed up on the sparsely populated island and doesn't decide to relocate to the mainland.
He obviously never learns. On the first page he states he has had to endure deliberate lies published on the internet about him. Reader on Blue kindly pointed out to him when he was posting and made reference to deliberate lies that all lies are by definition deliberate @)(++(*
I wonder why he is so fixated on "deliberate lies" @)(++(*
is that it ? Is that the sum of new evidence?
As an ex copper you would think he would know better - an ex con says one thing - With no proof - and then JB says he is telling lies .
End of . Its hear say -
or even it could be a letter written by someone with a grudge - or perceived grudge.
anonymous letters - worth nothing unless they contain something that could be proved.
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Why not? Coz PH says not? @)(++(* @)(++(* @)(++(* @)(++(*
Pleased you can see the funny side of being associated with such drivel!
Didn't I tell you so yonks ago. Only Jeremy Bamber and AN Other know the finer details as to why he risked everything and did what he did and they ain't for telling. 8(0(*
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is that it ? Is that the sum of new evidence?
As an ex copper you would think he would know better - an ex con says one thing - With no proof - and then JB says he is telling lies .
End of . Its hear say -
or even it could be a letter written by someone with a grudge - or perceived grudge.
anonymous letters - worth nothing unless they contain something that could be proved.
Anonymous letters seem to feature much in this book so no surprises there then.
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Didn't I tell you so yonks ago. Only Jeremy Bamber and AN Other know the finer details as to why he risked everything and did what he did and they ain't for telling. 8(0(*
Yes you have always believed JB had an accomplice. But SC?
According to the ex-con SC shot June and NB. Then attacked NB with the rifle. NB was only able to raise his arms to defend himself. How could he raise both arms when the pathologist made it perfectly clear NB lost complete use of his left arm from the gunshot wound he sustained upstairs.
PH has made no attempt to critique this so-called anonymous letter. I wouldn't mind betting it's nothing more than his own warped imagination.
I wonder how many anonymous letters reach the sparsely populated island on any given day? &%+((£. I'm surprised we haven't heard about sinking ferries en route 8)-)))
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/524489/Mass-killer-Jeremy-Bamber-s-threat-to-Scots-author-Harrison
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is that it ? Is that the sum of new evidence?
As an ex copper you would think he would know better - an ex con says one thing - With no proof - and then JB says he is telling lies .
End of . Its hear say -
or even it could be a letter written by someone with a grudge - or perceived grudge.
anonymous letters - worth nothing unless they contain something that could be proved.
Hello Guinness. Lovely to see you on the forum again 8**8:/:
This author/book appear very unprofessional imo.
As I've already stated those police officers the author claims to have interviewed are all now deceased and no attempt has been made to verify these meetings by way of photos or even date, time and venue.
A quote from a journalist, Stuart Philips, was freelance so again the reader has to accept the authors use of his material at face-value.
The author claims a chance meeting with the late Ed Lawson QC. Again no way of verifying the meeting and/or discussion used in the book.
The author also claims he attempted to track-down JB's friend Brett Collins in New Zealand. He claims he eventually received a phone call but by his own admission he is unable to confirm he was talking to the man himself. Obviously if BC turns up at a later date and states he never made such a call the author has his get out clause.
A lot of completely irrelevant information particularly with regard to JB's "disciples".
I can't imagine any reader of true crime rating this book anything other than very poor.
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So not Keira then? @)(++(* @)(++(* @)(++(* @)(++(* @)(++(*
Rochy gets a mention, too! 8((()*/
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Anonymous letters seem to feature much in this book so no surprises there then.
I've just read the anonymous "smoking gun" letter, and I have no reason AT ALL to believe it isn't genuine.
It just really, really reminds me of when Gladys pretended to be Gav.
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Rochy gets a mention, too! 8((()*/
Well remembered puglove. I read the name D...C...and thought I know that name but all I could think of was the petite woman form Liberty.
I remember Roch asking me to stop flirting with him on Blue as his girlfriend was going to join the forum &%+((£
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Well remembered puglove. I read the name D...C...and thought I know that name but all I could think of was the petite woman form Liberty.
I remember Roch asking me to stop flirting with him on Blue as his girlfriend was going to join the forum &%+((£
He told me to stop flirting with him because I reminded him of Esma Cannon. 8(8-))
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PH thanks the following:
"Thanks must also go to Colin, Dawn, Brett, Matthew, Archie, Liz, Fred, Beverly and Chris. Also to Ronald DeFeo, Stephen Bentley, Graham McDonald, Tony Bennett, Peter Healy, and not forgetting the talented researcher Caroline Rowland for providing additional detail on the case. A mention must go to David Chakrabarti for his knowledgable opinion and messages of support, and to Ben Borland, Editor of the Scottish Express,..."
Wonder why some are identified by first name only and others first and surname &%+((£ To protect identity or can allude to for example "Colin" Caffell but a get out clause if Colin Caffell complains he didn't contribute &%+((£
By PH's own admission he could not confirm for sure the person who called him claiming to be Brett was in fact the man himself!
As I said all police officers quoted: ACC Simpson, DI Miller and DS Jones are deceased. The other officer quoted wished to remain anonymous &%+((£
The quality and professionalism between CAL's excerpts and PH's finished item couldn't be starker.
I think PH's book is highly offensive to the victims and surviving family members. It really is in poor taste. I hope Colin Caffell does not read the "anonymous letter" 8(8-)) It has no credibility or authenticity whatsoever.
I am pleased some of us ie Andrea and myself saw through PH from day one.
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I understood a certain Brett had disappeared totally below the radar possibly even changing his name so I find it unlikely that he contributed to anything lately. In fact there was suggestion he wasn't of this world any more.
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The intonation being? I don't think any trial has a 'cast list'. Why would someone at the trial remember all the names and faces of every member of the defence/prosecution?
P95 PH's 'interview' with DS Jones:
"I [PH] then asked about Bamber's moods in court. Stan had said that Bamber became very happy, jovial throughout the day of questioning. Why did he later feel this so important?"
Inside cover of Deviant "Penned by crime writer and former police officer Paul Harrison, Deviant is the only book on the subject written by someone in attendance at the 1986 trial of Jeremy Bamber...,"
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These books amount to little more than opinion. The campaign team promote the myth that some new evidence has been revealed which will result in a referral to the Appeal Court. I can't see how altered documents or the odd new photo can ever change what most of us already know about the murders. For anything new to come near to a referral would require everything we already know to be binned and that is just not going to happen.
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So, having had a head start on the rest of us Holly, what is the - “startling evidence never before seen and a dramatic conclusion this, for the first time in print, is the real story of what happened the night three adults and two children were bludgeoned and shot to death at White House Farm.”
Is there only this anonymous letter, nothing else?... and what about the dramatic conclusion?
Why do you say that it's - “highly offensive to the victims and surviving family members”?
Is there any acknowledgement of interviews conducted with David Boutflour and/or Ann & Peter Eaton?
Or with Barbara Wilson?
What about any with Julie Smerchanski, nee Mugford?
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Makes you wonder if he was at the trial and interviewed the officers before they died - why has he waited so long to write the book? Especially if there is nothing new in it. I will read it, but the inclusion of an anonymous letter to me smacks of "effect" and "drama" and I can not see anyone giving it any value. Unless the writer of the letter comes forward and becomes public.
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So, having had a head start on the rest of us Holly, what is the - “startling evidence never before seen and a dramatic conclusion this, for the first time in print, is the real story of what happened the night three adults and two children were bludgeoned and shot to death at White House Farm.”
Is there only this anonymous letter, nothing else?... and what about the dramatic conclusion?
Yes SC as JB's accomplice: SC murdered NB and June, unclear who murdered the twins and JB murdered SC (according to the anonymous letter).
Why do you say that it's - “highly offensive to the victims and surviving family members”?
It totally lacks credibility and authenticity. It is sensationalist. It runs for 11 plus pages of small text. PH has made no attempt to critique it. It is fatally flawed eg it is at odds with the pathological evidence.
"Jeremy said he had been out shooting, he didn't say where, and that Sheila had gone with him. He told her shooting was good for getting rid of tension and let her fire off some shots. He said Sheila was a nut job and was always high as a kite, but he had the measure of her and he wasn't worried about her having a rifle in her hands because he was controlling everything she did. Sheila had really enjoyed it and laughed when Jeremy told her to think of Mum and Dad's face on the target she was firing at".
"About 10 minutes later, the two of them went upstairs to shoot and kill their parents when they were asleep. Jeremy said this is where they would offer least resistance. By this stage he said Sheila wasn't with it, she was hyped up, full of passion and hatred for their parents and was making ranting and snorting noises like a mad women out of control".
"He said Sheila she was screaming and crying so he went upstairs after her and the way she was acting frightened him, [This is after she had murdered June and NB] she was talking about the twins being little devils and evil, she was like something possessed".
Is there any acknowledgement of interviews conducted with David Boutflour and/or Ann & Peter Eaton?
No
Or with Barbara Wilson?
No
What about any with Julie Smerchanski, nee Mugford?
No
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Is this Jeremy and Sheila 'done it' claim simply something Harrison has invented in order to instill some sensationalism in an otherwise dull book? Is this his eureka moment?
Sounds more like he is attempting to pull Jeremy's chain in order to get a reaction from him.
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Makes you wonder if he was at the trial and interviewed the officers before they died - why has he waited so long to write the book? Especially if there is nothing new in it. I will read it, but the inclusion of an anonymous letter to me smacks of "effect" and "drama" and I can not see anyone giving it any value. Unless the writer of the letter comes forward and becomes public.
"A culmination of three decades in research, in the course of this work the author has interviewed all the key investigative police officers and lawyers, and communicated with convicted murderer and a number of associates"
I kid you not! The above is from the inside cover of the book.
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Is this Jeremy and Sheila 'done it' claim simply something Harrison has invented in order to instill some sensationalism in an otherwise dull book? Is this his eureka moment?
Sounds more like he is attempting to pull Jeremy's chain in order to get a reaction from him.
To get the measure of the man we need to consider what is known about him since he launched on Blue:
- His behaviour on Blue and Red - banned from both forums
- His MO and claims re his other books eg Bible John: similar to his book re WHF ie uses a deceased detective:
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/bible-john-police-officer-says-2218723
- His claims of an anonymous letter and death threat re his WHF book:
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/524489/Mass-killer-Jeremy-Bamber-s-threat-to-Scots-author-Harrison
- His claims in his auto-biography:
He starts off with claims of extremely serious sexual/emotional/physical abuse at the hands of his father. This included his father taking him to a model railway enthusiasts club which was a front for a paedophile ring. He names the title of this chapter 'The Flying Scotsman'. Apparently he was passed around where he had to engage in various acts including washing a mans feet, legs and private parts with a bowl of hot water. Followed by a woman who looked very trustworthy, was pleasant and nice but then he was made to touch her in places hitherto unknown. Then another woman who looked friendly and younger than the other woman who washed him all over and defiled him with her fingers. One man who liked to smack bottoms and see his handprint. Another who had a "sick and disgusting penchant for bottoms" and would have PH sit above him on a four legged stool minus its seat and carry out various perversions (which he details). He tells about physical abuse inflicted on him by primary school teachers. This extended to a teacher throwing him on an oil stove in front of a full class (primary school) with PH suffering burns to his back. The mother of his 13 year old girlfriend seducing him in basque and stockings and using him as a sex slave twice a week over a six week period. She threatened to accuse him of rape if he reported the abuse. He was the same age as her daughter he was dating at the time. Beaten up by a gang in Gretna as he ventured over the border from Carlisle. He was at one time a postie and reported other posties for opening post and theft. He was then ostracised/bullied by his colleagues/superiors. Similar things happened with all his employers ie reported wrongdoing or things he thought were not right and then suffered in some shape or form. At one time he was a barista and a customer walked in and physically assaulted him for no apparent reason. He was then beaten up senseless by a Chinese gang on the London underground for no apparent reason and required facial reconstruction." And so it goes on and on...."
http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Cupboard-Under-Stairs-Trapped/dp/1845967895
I don't believe a word that comes out of Paul Harrison's mouth.
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I should add that his auto-biography was written after his mother, father and brother died.
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I should add that his auto-biography was written after his mother, father and brother died.
But the "autobio" is written by Paul Mason... an alter-ego?
Thanks for the info on 'Deviant', but I'll refrain from giving an opinion until I've read it.
Though I will say this about the letter... why would Bamber risk everything he has argued for (blaming solely his sister for thirty years), by telling some lag that he was also responsible and the driving force behind the murders?
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But the "autobio" is written by Paul Mason... an alter-ego?
Thanks for the info on 'Deviant', but I'll refrain from giving an opinion until I've read it.
Though I will say this about the letter... why would Bamber risk everything he has argued for (blaming solely his sister for thirty years), by telling some lag that he was also responsible and the driving force behind the murders?
I was reading this book till 2.00 this morning (bloody Amazon one-click) and then I fell asleep and dreamt that I was at Gilderoy Lockhart's booksigning for "Magical Me." %56&
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But the "autobio" is written by Paul Mason... an alter-ego?
Thanks for the info on 'Deviant', but I'll refrain from giving an opinion until I've read it.
Though I will say this about the letter... why would Bamber risk everything he has argued for (blaming solely his sister for thirty years), by telling some lag that he was also responsible and the driving force behind the murders?
Very true, a load of bollocks to be sure!
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But the "autobio" is written by Paul Mason... an alter-ego?
Pseudonym? There's no doubt whatsoever the book is about the life of Paul Harrison author of Deviant.
Thanks for the info on 'Deviant', but I'll refrain from giving an opinion until I've read it.
The way to go 8((()*/ There's nothing new per se (other than the 'anonymous' letter) however PH appears to enjoy being contrary. For example he claims the deceased detectives who contributed to Deviant all advised him that DCI Jones always believed JB was involved and was just taking a softly softly approach to nailing JB. It is incredibly dull and boring - you will need the patience of a saint to plough through it.
Though I will say this about the letter... why would Bamber risk everything he has argued for (blaming solely his sister for thirty years), by telling some lag that he was also responsible and the driving force behind the murders?
"I became involved with him in a physical and emotional way" followed by "He did get more intimate towards me and through the odd hug and one sided conversations I gave him the support I think he needed".
The letter is very detailed but is fatally flawed with regards to pathological evidence, soc and ballistics.
I was thinking of uploading the letter to the forum but on reflection I don't want to add to this unsavoury circus surrounding the tragedy at WHF.
Other authors who have written about the case: Caffell, Lee, Lomax, Powell and Wilkes have done so sensitively with consideration for all concerned and stuck to the facts of the case. Not so with this author %56&
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I was reading this book till 2.00 this morning (bloody Amazon one-click) and then I fell asleep and dreamt that I was at Gilderoy Lockhart's booksigning for "Magical Me." %56&
Finished the book. I'm actually ........no, I won't say it. I'm not a writer, so I'm not qualified to critique it. This sums up my feelings.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Qf6Sv3A9zs
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Finished the book. I'm actually ........no, I won't say it. I'm not a writer, so I'm not qualified to critique it. This sums up my feelings.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Qf6Sv3A9zs
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I will write a review and put it on the Waterstones site and copy it here.
I haven't read so many books about the same topic since reading the Secret Seven, Amelia Jane and Mr Pink-Whistle ?{)(**
My favourite childhood story was Polly's P's and Q's. I remember I drove everyone nuts insisting it was the only story I wanted. I was petrified I would end up with stickers all over me if I didn't say please and thank-you. It was psychologically thrilling:
http://www.enidblytonsociety.co.uk/magazine-details.php?magid=426
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/books/6570310/Why-Enid-Blytons-greatest-creation-was-herself.html
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Mr Pink Whistle was a bit risque. Imagine this trying to pass children's book censors today...
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Mr Pink Whistle was a bit risque. Imagine this trying to pass children's book censors today...
A touch of "jake the peg" (a third leg) penned by Rolf Harris maybe...
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A touch of "jake the peg" (a third leg) penned by Rolf Harris maybe...
I'm surprised Holly Goodhead was allowed past the entrance gate. 8(8-))
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Finished the book. I'm actually ........no, I won't say it. I'm not a writer, so I'm not qualified to critique it. This sums up my feelings.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Qf6Sv3A9zs
?{)(** Could you possibly be showing your age there - I loved peter Sellers
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I will write a review and put it on the Waterstones site and copy it here.
I haven't read so many books about the same topic since reading the Secret Seven, Amelia Jane and Mr Pink-Whistle ?{)(**
My favourite childhood story was Polly's P's and Q's. I remember I drove everyone nuts insisting it was the only story I wanted. I was petrified I would end up with stickers all over me if I didn't say please and thank-you. It was psychologically thrilling:
http://www.enidblytonsociety.co.uk/magazine-details.php?magid=426
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/books/6570310/Why-Enid-Blytons-greatest-creation-was-herself.html
Paul Harrison should hang his head in shame for attempting to incriminate an innocent young woman, Sheila Caffell, in Bamber's dastardly deed. There wasn't a chance in a million that she would have knowingly endangered her beloved children. What a scoundrel to ever suggest such a thing!
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Inside cover of "Deviant":
"Penned by crime writer and former police officer Paul Harrison. Deviant is the only book on the subject written by someone in attendance at the 1986 trial of Jeremy Bamber, accused of murdering five members of his family in the dead of the night at White House Farm".
"A culmination of three decades in research, in the course of the work the author has interviewed all the key investigative police officers and lawyers, and communicated with the convicted murderer and a number of his associates".
P15:
..."This is a detail that was reinforced during my [PH] attendance at Bamber's trial. I felt no suspicion or doubt that the evidence presented by the prosecution was anything but truthful and honest. Indeed, the one aspect of the trial that did stand out for me was the arrogance and almost nonchalant attitude of Bamber himself, this wasn't the demeanour of a man stunned by incredulous shock at his dire circumstances, or of a man who believed his innocence would ultimately be proven to the world. I remember noting down at the time that Bamber, throughout the trial and during his own evidence, seemed ruthless and without remorse or sympathy for his slaughtered family. I said at the time his emotional state was so cold that it was likely ice water coursed through his veins and not human blood..."
P95:
"I [PH during his claimed interview with DS Jones] then asked about Bamber's moods in court. Stan had said that Bamber became very happy, jovial throughout the day of questioning...."
P137:
"In 2002, I [PH] was working as a clerk to a High Court Judge at the Royal Courts of Justice in London. One of my duties was to liaise with various barrister chambers involved in the cases coming before the courts. During my time working with the judiciary I made many contacts in the legal world and most, because of the nature of the role, were acquaintances. I was fortunate in that one such encounter was with a gentleman called Ed Lawson QC. I had no idea at the time, but within minutes of sharing refreshments with him I learned that he had been the junior for Geoffrey Rivlin, Bamber's defence council at the murder trial".
1. If PH attended JB's trial why did he have to ask DS Jones about Bamber's moods in court?
2. If PH attended trial and spent three decades researching the case why did he not know the identity of Ed Lawson QC in 2002?
3. Three of the four police officers PH claims to have interviewed are now deceased (ACC Simpson, DI Miller and DS Jones) and the other officer wished to remain anonymous? We have no evidence whatsoever that any such interviews took place.
4. The only member of the legal profession PH claims to have interviewed/had a chance meeting with is now deceased (Ed Lawson QC) We have no evidence whatsoever that any such interview/chance meeting took place.
This book is a complete fraud %56& The Press Complaints Commission do not deal with complaints about books only newspapers and magazines. I have established through Waterstones that if I wish to make a formal complaint I have to do so through PH's little known publishers Vertical Editions but I understand others have beaten me to it!
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Paul Harrison should hang his head in shame for attempting to incriminate an innocent young woman, Sheila Caffell, in Bamber's dastardly deed. There wasn't a chance in a million that she would have knowingly endangered her beloved children. What a scoundrel to ever suggest such a thing!
Its one thing to write a book about a true crime and/or potential miscarriage of justice along the lines of Lomax, Powell and Wilkes but this book by author Paul Harrison is altogether different. Harrison shows a complete disregard for research, facts, authenticity and sympathy for the victims and surviving relatives. IMO this book is nothing other than an outlet to satiate Harrison's own DEVIANT mind. And of course he is looking to exploit the WHF tragedy at a poignant time for commercial gain. Disgusting %56&
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Its one thing to write a book about a true crime and/or potential miscarriage of justice along the lines of Lomax, Powell and Wilkes but this book by author Paul Harrison is altogether different. Harrison shows a complete disregard for research, facts, authenticity and sympathy for the victims and surviving relatives. IMO this book is nothing other than an outlet to satiate Harrison's own DEVIANT mind. And of course he is looking to exploit the WHF tragedy at a poignant time for commercial gain. Disgusting %56&
8@??)( 8@??)( 8@??)( and stomp all over an innocent young woman's memory into the bargain. Double disgusting!!
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Its one thing to write a book about a true crime and/or potential miscarriage of justice along the lines of Lomax, Powell and Wilkes but this book by author Paul Harrison is altogether different. Harrison shows a complete disregard for research, facts, authenticity and sympathy for the victims and surviving relatives. IMO this book is nothing other than an outlet to satiate Harrison's own DEVIANT mind. And of course he is looking to exploit the WHF tragedy at a poignant time for commercial gain. Disgusting %56&
8@??)( 8@??)( 8@??)( 8@??)(. Harrison is a parasite. Oh!.....and a total bellend!
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8@??)( 8@??)( 8@??)( 8@??)(. Harrison is a parasite. Oh!.....and a total bellend!
Ha!! @)(++(*
I would love to read the provenance of the "smoking gun" letter.
I would also love to have sex with John Sessions. And ride a pink unicorn.
But there you go. 8)><(
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Paul Harrison (aka Mason Doyle)....
You should have gone with Sheila being locked in her bedroom, then Bamber chloroforming her. That would explain why her handbag was turned out on the bed.
If you want to write another book, give me a shout. 8((()*/
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Ha!! @)(++(*
I would love to read the provenance of the "smoking gun" letter.
I would also love to have sex with John Sessions. And ride a pink unicorn.
But there you go. 8)><(
Strange how PH described the 'anonymous' letter/envelope to the Scottish Express eg produced on a typewriter and postmarked Essex.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/524489/Mass-killer-Jeremy-Bamber-s-threat-to-Scots-author-Harrison
Yet with the "smoking gun" letter, also sent anonymously, we get no such description &%+((£
I see your gay crush on me has passed puglove. I really, really wanted to explore my bi-curiosity with you 8)><(
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Strange how PH described the 'anonymous' letter/envelope to the Scottish Express eg produced on a typewriter and postmarked Essex.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/524489/Mass-killer-Jeremy-Bamber-s-threat-to-Scots-author-Harrison
Yet with the "smoking gun" letter, also sent anonymously, we get no such description &%+((£
I see your gay crush on me has passed puglove. I really, really wanted to explore my bi-curiosity with you 8)><(
It is all so very convenient, I wonder how many of these authors other books are filled with this nonsense?
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Imo PH's book is of such poor quality I struggle to take any of it seriously. It seems to me typical lazy bloke syndrome where he has penned conversations with self along the lines of Mike's 'he says, I says', agent Z etc etc but PH has dressed them up as 'interviews' and 'anonymous letters'.
Throughout PH's book he constantly rants about JB eg is manipulative etc, etc. A good author of true-crime surely keeps his/her opinions to themselves and just presents the reader with the known facts etc?
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Imo PH's book is of such poor quality I struggle to take any of it seriously. It seems to me typical lazy bloke syndrome where he has penned conversations with self along the lines of Mike's 'he says, I says', agent Z etc etc but PH has dressed them up as 'interviews' and 'anonymous letters'.
Throughout PH's book he constantly rants about JB eg is manipulative etc, etc. A good author of true-crime surely keeps his/her opinions to themselves and just presents the reader with the known facts etc?
But we want closure, once and for all. It's about time some authors made their real views known, because I'm sick of reading books on this case that are non-commital.
There are many instances where Bamber has changed his story over the years and show that he is definitely manipulative, so why not say so?
A typical example is one where the leading players were gathered at Bourtree cottage and Colin Caffell asked Bamber about Nevill's phone call. I don't have the exact wording to hand now, but Bamber claimed in front of all those present that his dad was already hurt/injured at that point - "I really felt that", he said. Fast forward thirty years and in correspondence with Paul Harrison, Bamber now says that Nevill didn't sound as if he was hurt on the phone, simply because his original story doesn't fit with no blood being present on the telephone in the CS photos.
Jeremy Bamber is a pathological liar and that needs to be stated to counteract all the nonsense spouted his delusional supporters.
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But we want closure, once and for all. It's about time some authors made their real views known, because I'm sick of reading books on this case that are non-commital.
There are many instances where Bamber has changed his story over the years and show that he is definitely manipulative, so why not say so?
A typical example is one where the leading players were gathered at Bourtree cottage and Colin Caffell asked Bamber about Nevill's phone call. I don't have the exact wording to hand now, but Bamber claimed in front of all those present that his dad was already hurt/injured at that point - "I really felt that", he said. Fast forward thirty years and in correspondence with Paul Harrison, Bamber now says that Nevill didn't sound as if he was hurt on the phone, simply because his original story doesn't fit with no blood being present on the telephone in the CS photos.
Jeremy Bamber is a pathological liar and that needs to be stated to counteract all the nonsense spouted his delusional supporters.
We've always had closure, Myster. With all respect to Holly, the tiny band of Bamber supporters have been so crazy, fixated and outlandish, they've demolished any tiny shred of credibility Bamber hoped to find while he dredged through his piles of paper.
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But we want closure, once and for all. It's about time some authors made their real views known, because I'm sick of reading books on this case that are non-commital.
Life is full of unknowns eg the origin of life itself!
I don't see how authors expressing an opinion on guilt or innocence provides any sort of closure of conclusion? Authors are authors not forensic scientists. None are prepared to put their money where their mouth is and fund new tests etc which might provide closure/conclusion? How is poring over data that is some 3 decades old going to change anything? Science and technology moves on at a rapid pace; this case is still firmly rooted in the dark ages. PH ranting and making all sorts of derogatory comments about JB and those that believe he might be a MoJ is not constructive. PH's contact with JB has been limited to correspondence only? Certainly they haven't met face-to-face and I don't believe even spoken on the phone. Other than exchanging one light-hearted post on this forum I haven't had any other contact with PH whatsoever and I have no desire to. He seems to want to label anyone who believes JB might be a MoJ into a category: "disciple", "Jeremy's desperate and lonely housewives club", or a "cyber bully" and no doubt I feature somewhere amongst that lot!
I wonder how PH viewed the families/supporters of long running MoJ's such as Stefan Kiszko, Stephen Downing, Sally Clark, Guildford Four, Maguire Seven, Birmingham Six?
There are many instances where Bamber has changed his story over the years and show that he is definitely manipulative, so why not say so?
There are many instances where many have changed their story! Ranging from JM's testimony to the relatives account as to when, where and how the silencer was found and subsequently handled to PC's West timing of the phone call.
DS Jones lied to JB during his police interviews which I consider manipulation.
A typical example is one where the leading players were gathered at Bourtree cottage and Colin Caffell asked Bamber about Nevill's phone call. I don't have the exact wording to hand now, but Bamber claimed in front of all those present that his dad was already hurt/injured at that point - "I really felt that", he said. Fast forward thirty years and in correspondence with Paul Harrison, Bamber now says that Nevill didn't sound as if he was hurt on the phone, simply because his original story doesn't fit with no blood being present on the telephone in the CS photos.
If JB is innocent he will be as much in the dark as the next person and has no doubt done what we all do ie try to fit the pieces of the puzzle together. In any event I thought CC was unsure whether JB did in fact say he thought NB sounded injured when he supposedly made the call to JB? I don't believe its in any of the early witness statements?
Jeremy Bamber is a pathological liar and that needs to be stated to counteract all the nonsense spouted his delusional supporters.
I don't believe there's any evidence that JB has lied or as PH would say told "deliberate lies"! No doubt JB has been mistaken and wrong on aspects of the case but that's different to lying?
AE provided a 3 page WS on aspects of the case where she was mistaken or wrong:
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=3169.msg118117#msg118117
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Only one person knows for sure the exact sequence of events that occurred at White House Farm on the morning of the murders and as it stands at the moment he isn't for telling. However, this could change thus the move to another prison. Watch this space!
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Talking of reviews....PH has made a bit of a tit of himself on Amazon. 8(8-))
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Talking of reviews....PH has made a bit of a tit of himself on Amazon. 8(8-))
Marko Polo...another nom de plume, tit will do it for me @)(++(*
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Marko Polo...another nom de plume, tit will do it for me @)(++(*
I wouldn't mind betting we will soon see reviews from Angel, George and Sherlock his 3 German Sheps that he always makes ref to in his books (Deviant = page 21) @)(++(*
He is always keen to let everyone know he lives on a sparsely populated island surrounded by 3 German Sheps. Clearly the mark of a real man!
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I wouldn't mind betting we will soon see reviews from Angel, George and Sherlock his 3 German Sheps that he always makes ref to in his books (Deviant = page 21) @)(++(*
He is always keen to let everyone know he lives on a sparsely populated island surrounded by 3 German Sheps. Clearly the mark of a real man!
I take it you aren't overly impressed by his writings Holly? 8)--))
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I take it you aren't overly impressed by his writings Holly? 8)--))
Correct and all based on my posts in this thread criticising the content.
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Correct and all based on my posts in this thread criticising the content.
I must admit I have never been a book reader but this author has far from impressed me by his conduct on here and on blue.
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Fantasist Extraordinaire... or the man who died twice.
https://www.vice.com/en/article/y3vedv/paul-harrison-fraud (https://www.vice.com/en/article/y3vedv/paul-harrison-fraud)
https://video.vice.com/en_uk/video/10-questions-you-always-wanted-to-ask-a-serial-killer-profiler/5a954d7af1cdb3581a038311?popular=1 (https://video.vice.com/en_uk/video/10-questions-you-always-wanted-to-ask-a-serial-killer-profiler/5a954d7af1cdb3581a038311?popular=1)
https://www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/16700784.brought-to-book-the-man-whos-meant-to-be-dead/ (https://www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/16700784.brought-to-book-the-man-whos-meant-to-be-dead/)
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9490896/phoney-serial-killer-expert-deceiving-fans-yorkshire-ripper/ (https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9490896/phoney-serial-killer-expert-deceiving-fans-yorkshire-ripper/)
It appears that Paul Harrison was up to his repetitive disappearing trick when, out of the blue, I received the attached email in June 2014, purporting to have been sent by his business partner, John Scott (even though the sender identifies himself as "Paul")...
What I would also like to know is when, where and for what reason this photo was taken...
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Robin Perrie and David Wilson on Paul Harrison (October, 2023)...
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/24345202/robin-perrie-exposed-serial-killer-expert-paul-harrison-fraud/ (https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/24345202/robin-perrie-exposed-serial-killer-expert-paul-harrison-fraud/)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p0gh5gqx/david-wilsons-crime-files-series-4-scams-and-scandals-3-imposters (https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p0gh5gqx/david-wilsons-crime-files-series-4-scams-and-scandals-3-imposters)
Addressing the young and gullible...
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Robin Perrie and David Wilson on Paul Harrison (October, 2023)...
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/24345202/robin-perrie-exposed-serial-killer-expert-paul-harrison-fraud/ (https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/24345202/robin-perrie-exposed-serial-killer-expert-paul-harrison-fraud/)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p0gh5gqx/david-wilsons-crime-files-series-4-scams-and-scandals-3-imposters (https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p0gh5gqx/david-wilsons-crime-files-series-4-scams-and-scandals-3-imposters)
Sohom Das and his projections .
“He wanted to form this identity as a media expert and continued his web of deceit until he was found out.
“It was almost like an addiction for him”