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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Is the Labour Party in danger of imploding?
« Reply #195 on: August 19, 2016, 02:09:29 PM »
Can the Labour Party ever hope to survive intact regardless of whether Corbyn or Smith win the leadership election?

It will become encysted in Parliament.
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Offline Angelo222

Re: Is the Labour Party in danger of imploding?
« Reply #196 on: August 19, 2016, 02:30:11 PM »
It will become encysted in Parliament.
"during the encystment it degenerates and loses all trace of structure. This wandering appears to be accidental, and to have nothing to do with the further evolution of the animal which takes place..............."


I can't see how a split down the middle can be avoided if Corbyn is allowed to peddle his Trotskyite/Marxist rubbish any longer.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Is the Labour Party in danger of imploding?
« Reply #197 on: August 19, 2016, 02:54:53 PM »
I can't see how a split down the middle can be avoided if Corbyn is allowed to peddle his Trotskyite/Marxist rubbish any longer.

I understand that Corbyn is a democratic socialist. Unlike Trotskyists they believe in electoral politics. I haven't seen any examples of Trotskyite/Marxist rubbish being peddled by him. Would you care to provide examples?
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Re: Is the Labour Party in danger of imploding?
« Reply #198 on: August 19, 2016, 05:40:37 PM »
Corbyn's problem, along with his band of devoted followers is that he cannot accept someone else could lead the Labour Party.

He is probably sincere in his beliefs and some of his policies I support, but some like his 500 billion investment plan appear hot air, and he has no idea of how to finance them other than more borrowing.

Offline G-Unit

Re: Is the Labour Party in danger of imploding?
« Reply #199 on: August 19, 2016, 06:10:58 PM »
Corbyn's problem, along with his band of devoted followers is that he cannot accept someone else could lead the Labour Party.

He is probably sincere in his beliefs and some of his policies I support, but some like his 500 billion investment plan appear hot air, and he has no idea of how to finance them other than more borrowing.

Two hundred and fifty thousand people voted for Corbyn to be leader. His nearest rival got eighty thousand votes. One hundred and seventy-odd disagreed and staged an attempted coup. At this moment in time he is the only one who has the right to lead the party.
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Re: Is the Labour Party in danger of imploding?
« Reply #200 on: August 19, 2016, 07:22:31 PM »
Two hundred and fifty thousand people voted for Corbyn to be leader. His nearest rival got eighty thousand votes. One hundred and seventy-odd disagreed and staged an attempted coup. At this moment in time he is the only one who has the right to lead the party.

Indeed, votes paid for, last year.

It is abundantly clear that his ego cannot imagine anyone else being leader.

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Re: Is the Labour Party in danger of imploding?
« Reply #201 on: August 19, 2016, 07:29:45 PM »
By the way G-Unit.

What will Corbyn do if he wins the election and those M.P.'s you mentioned don't cooperate with him and/or leave the party ?

Then 'his' Labour Party could no longer be the official opposition.

Offline Angelo222

Re: Is the Labour Party in danger of imploding?
« Reply #202 on: August 19, 2016, 08:04:29 PM »
Two hundred and fifty thousand people voted for Corbyn to be leader. His nearest rival got eighty thousand votes. One hundred and seventy-odd disagreed and staged an attempted coup. At this moment in time he is the only one who has the right to lead the party.

And lead it he will but the Party is doomed to oblivion under Corby and his 70's mindset.  The existing Labour Party will end up just another defunct socialist has been.
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Offline mercury

Re: Is the Labour Party in danger of imploding?
« Reply #203 on: August 19, 2016, 08:16:55 PM »
And lead it he will but the Party is doomed to oblivion under Corby and his 70's mindset.  The existing Labour Party will end up just another defunct socialist has been.
Whatbenefit has privatisation  brought all these years vs the problems its created?
wouldnt labour be in abetter position in 2016 with the experience of both?

Offline G-Unit

Re: Is the Labour Party in danger of imploding?
« Reply #204 on: August 19, 2016, 08:44:17 PM »
Indeed, votes paid for, last year.

It is abundantly clear that his ego cannot imagine anyone else being leader.

Yeah yeah. Corbyn is leader and is likely to stay leader. Quite an achievement considering the concerted efforts of the PLP and the media to discredit him. They have not found anything to use against him, poor souls. No cash for questions, no excessive expense claims, no high jinks with animals, no downloaded porn. Quite a refreshing change.
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Re: Is the Labour Party in danger of imploding?
« Reply #205 on: August 19, 2016, 08:49:42 PM »
Yeah yeah. Corbyn is leader and is likely to stay leader. Quite an achievement considering the concerted efforts of the PLP and the media to discredit him. They have not found anything to use against him, poor souls. No cash for questions, no excessive expense claims, no high jinks with animals, no downloaded porn. Quite a refreshing change.


...and Foxtrot Alpha chance of winning a General Election. 8)--))

By the way, who would you be referring to as regards 'high jinks with animals'  or 'downloaded porn' ?

Would you care to enlighten us all ?

Offline mercury

Re: Is the Labour Party in danger of imploding?
« Reply #206 on: August 19, 2016, 08:52:39 PM »

...and Foxtrot Alpha chance of winning a General Election. 8)--))

By the way, who would you be referring to as regards 'high jinks with animals'  or 'downloaded porn' ?

Would you care to enlighten us all ?

Does it matter if it came to it? If the partywere united they could vote down every tory new law they didnt like, surely thats miles better than being a labour leader but being a half tory and letting thrm get their way all the time?
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stephen25000

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Re: Is the Labour Party in danger of imploding?
« Reply #207 on: August 19, 2016, 08:59:20 PM »
Does it matter if it came to it? If the partywere united they could vote down every tory new law they didnt like, surely thats mikes better than being a labour leader but being a half tory and letting thrm get their way all the time?

They may vote down legislation, but they can only succeed with other parties, or with the help of the House of Lords  and sometimes the media.

So far, in Parliament, Cameron walked over Corbyn, and so did May in her one encounter, in P.M.'s Question Time, which is what most of the average voting public observe as regards politics.

Like it or , impressions do count.

All, I see with Corbyn is a bunch of baying sycophants and little else.

For an example of that, listen to Galloway on Talk Sport, Fridays from 7 to 10 pm.

Offline G-Unit

Re: Is the Labour Party in danger of imploding?
« Reply #208 on: August 19, 2016, 09:12:42 PM »
By the way G-Unit.

What will Corbyn do if he wins the election and those M.P.'s you mentioned don't cooperate with him and/or leave the party ?

Then 'his' Labour Party could no longer be the official opposition.

We'll see. It's all speculative atm.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Is the Labour Party in danger of imploding?
« Reply #209 on: August 19, 2016, 09:37:52 PM »
They may vote down legislation, but they can only succeed with other parties, or with the help of the House of Lords  and sometimes the media.

So far, in Parliament, Cameron walked over Corbyn, and so did May in her one encounter, in P.M.'s Question Time, which is what most of the average voting public observe as regards politics.

Like it or , impressions do count.

All, I see with Corbyn is a bunch of baying sycophants and little else.

For an example of that, listen to Galloway on Talk Sport, Fridays from 7 to 10 pm.

Look at the crowds who have turned out to hear him; they don't care about childish point scoring at PMQ's, they care about jobs, housing, infrastructure and a decent chance for all. Labour MP's voting for Tory austerity policies are not what they want. Corbyn may or may not be able to deliver, but he's the only one who is prepared to try.
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