Is the Labour Party in danger of imploding?

[G-Unit]

Are people on here starry eyed about Jeremy Corbyn?
I haven't noticed that.
There are those who seem to be in a muck sweat about him having been elected leader in accordance with Labour Party rules then the PLP decide they want him [Mr Corbyn] out but can only shift him by using the rules which is now proving to be difficult. I guess an AK47 or the "Bulgarian umbrella trick" would be quicker if somewhat undemocratic.
Of course were he a man of principle he would resign.
Now there is the rub. The words "politician" and "principle" do not fit well into the same sentence.
Fear not there remain 4 years ish before the next general election in which to elect another leader by which time questions about today's issues "where does he[the leader] stand on [fill in topic]" will be largely irrelevant.
Good innit.

Making such accusations is a rather transparent ploy imo. The less reputable media tend use it. The Mirror's attempt to win friends in Sheffield. Ouch!;

A spot of drizzle wasn't enough to put off the people of the Socialist Republic of South Yorkshire
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/hero-worship-jeremy-corbyn-thousands-8667373

A few more here;
http://www.neonnettle.com/feed/184-10-most-anti-jeremy-corbyn-headlines-ever-written-by-the-uk-press

'Muck sweat' seems to be nearer the truth. His detractors can't seem to decide whether he's an outdated 70's socialist, a closet Marxist, or a dangerous threat to the status quo. Their rhetoric suggests the former, their actions suggest the latter.

He who must be discredited by any means possible seems to be the main message of the media. Unfortunately the only ones listening are the unthinking sheep imo. Today's younger people in particular are used to using the internet for research.

[stephen25000]

Making such accusations is a rather transparent ploy imo. The less reputable media tend use it. The Mirror's attempt to win friends in Sheffield. Ouch!;

A spot of drizzle wasn't enough to put off the people of the Socialist Republic of South Yorkshire
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/hero-worship-jeremy-corbyn-thousands-8667373

A few more here;
http://www.neonnettle.com/feed/184-10-most-anti-jeremy-corbyn-headlines-ever-written-by-the-uk-press

'Muck sweat' seems to be nearer the truth. His detractors can't seem to decide whether he's an outdated 70's socialist, a closet Marxist, or a dangerous threat to the status quo. Their rhetoric suggests the former, their actions suggest the latter.

He who must be discredited by any means possible seems to be the main message of the media. Unfortunately the only ones listening are the unthinking sheep imo. Today's younger people in particular are used to using the internet for research.

Hero worship ???

What exactly has he done to be a hero ?

[G-Unit]

Hero worship ???

What exactly has he done to be a hero ?

Who knows? I suggest you ask the Mirror 'journalists', they said it.

[Alice Purjorick]

Who knows? I suggest you ask the Mirror 'journalists', they said it.

"Mr Corbyn was accompanied on his trip to Yorkshire by director Ken Loach*, who is making a series of short films for his campaign".

* Father of Emma. Now that association, one would have opined is surely sufficient to elicit a few fans around here ? 

[stephen25000]

Who knows? I suggest you ask the Mirror 'journalists', they said it.

Then why bring it up in the first place ?

[stephen25000]

"Mr Corbyn was accompanied on his trip to Yorkshire by director Ken Loach*, who is making a series of short films for his campaign".

* Father of Emma. Now that association, one would have opined is surely sufficient to elicit a few fans around here ? 

Ah, films for publicity and hence to show Corbyn as a man of the people ?😂

[stephen25000]

Let's not forget Corbyn's ex girlfriend/lover either,  Dianne Abbot.

Now there is a great socialist. The one who sent her son to an expensive private school.

[G-Unit]

"Mr Corbyn was accompanied on his trip to Yorkshire by director Ken Loach*, who is making a series of short films for his campaign".

* Father of Emma. Now that association, one would have opined is surely sufficient to elicit a few fans around here ? 

Oh dear, Alice. He is a raving radical too, don't you know.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left_Unity_(UK)

[G-Unit]

Then why bring it up in the first place ?

If you look again, I was referring to their 'Socialist Republic of South Yorkshire' headline. Guaranteed to frighten Sheffield's inhabitants into withdrawing support from Corbyn? More likely to guarantee more support for Corbyn imo. Yorkshire folk are nowt if not stubborn. Insult them at your peril.

[Alice Purjorick]

Let's not forget Corbyn's ex girlfriend/lover either,  Dianne Abbot.

Now there is a great socialist. The one who sent her son to an expensive private school.

She was late teens early twenties at the time, like about 40 years ago, so a quick knee trembler on the way home from a demo is probably more like.
She could have done the usual socialist thing and sent him to Westminster Prep School and then Holland Park Incomprehensible, like so many others.

[stephen25000]

If you look again, I was referring to their 'Socialist Republic of South Yorkshire' headline. Guaranteed to frighten Sheffield's inhabitants into withdrawing support from Corbyn? More likely to guarantee more support for Corbyn imo. Yorkshire folk are nowt if not stubborn. Insult them at your peril.

So how many Yorkshire folk vote Labour, Tory, Liberal Democrats, etc.  ?

For someone who claims not to be interested in Corbyn, you appear to back him.

Yesterday, you claimed I insulted him, can you tell me where I did that ?

[Alice Purjorick]

Oh dear, Alice. He is a raving radical too, don't you know.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left_Unity_(UK)

He is so too but Emma was a leading light in "The Libel Trial".
So on the basis of "Lloyd George knows my father"............................ &%+((£

[Alfie]

I repeat, you have neglected to provide any EVIDENCE to support your assertion. Let's see now, who were the film crew working for? ['crew' is a misnomer, it was one man, I believe]

Freelance filmmaker Yannis Mendez, who is working for the Guardian to follow Corbyn and volunteers for his campaign, made the footage while they were on their way from London to Newcastle.
https://www.rt.com/uk/356171-corbyn-train-floor-labour/

Yannis Mendez
@MrYannisMendez
Freelance Film-maker working with The Guardian, Middle East Eye, RT and many other.
https://twitter.com/mryannismendez

So not employed by Corbyn or the Labour Party then.

Other evidence of his transport habits, also in The Guardian [is the paper a secret supporter?]

Jeremy Corbyn caught looking gloomy on night bus
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/aug/01/fan-catches-jeremy-corbyn-looking-gloomy-on-night-bus

Please provide your EVIDENCE that Corbyn had an ulterior motive for sitting on the floor.

Don't be absurd.  It is my OPINION and my SUSPICION, both of which I am ENTITLED to hold without having to provide EVIDENCE.  You are perfectly at liberty to believe that Corbyn is a man so principled and honorable that he would NEVER stoop to anything so low as a publicity stunt.  THat is your opinion for which I won't demand you provide evidence, because that would be an idiotic request and impossible to fulfill.

[Alfie]

Corbyn agreed to have a film-maker with him on the train and presumably was not forced at gunpoint to sit on the floor of the train extolling the virtues of re-nationalizing thr railways, nor I doubt did he object when this footage made its way into the mainstream media.  It is entirely up to the individual how he or sue interprets this little episode in Corbyn's campaign for re-election, but IMO you would have to be incredibly naive if you believed he ddn't thnk that this footage would enhance his reputation with the Labour members he is relyng on for their vote.

[G-Unit]

Don't be absurd.  It is my OPINION and my SUSPICION, both of which I am ENTITLED to hold without having to provide EVIDENCE.  You are perfectly at liberty to believe that Corbyn is a man so principled and honorable that he would NEVER stoop to anything so low as a publicity stunt.  THat is your opinion for which I won't demand you provide evidence, because that would be an idiotic request and impossible to fulfill.

People often say 'In my opinion', but what is an opinion? Often people present beliefs and prejudices as opinions. In the context of rational logical debate opinions are based on verifiable facts. This allows others to see the facts upon which the opinion rests and to either offer another interpretation or present other facts supporting their opposing opinion.

Beliefs and prejudices aren't based on verifiable facts, so they can't be verified or disproved. Hence they are irrational and illogical. In a debate they obviously carry less weight than a factually-based opinion.

In this context your opinion is actually a belief or prejudice because you don't seem able to provide any supporting facts.

My belief [as you describe it] is actually an opinion because I provided another example of Corbyn taking the rough with the smooth on public transport.
http://writing.colostate.edu/guides/teaching/co300man/pop12d.cfm