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stephen25000

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Re: Is the Labour Party in danger of imploding?
« Reply #285 on: August 23, 2016, 05:20:20 PM »
A politician pulling a stroke ? That has to be a first by the dastardly Mr Corbyn he should be thoroughly ashamed of himself
Were he only like that nice Mr Hamilton, that nice Mrs Smith and that nice Mr Osborne..... &%+((£


Aren't we being told Corbyn is politics Mr. Clean and doesn't look for photo opportumites or the equivalent. 8**8:/:

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Re: Is the Labour Party in danger of imploding?
« Reply #286 on: August 23, 2016, 05:47:25 PM »
On the BBC now too so it must be true:

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-37167700

Does this restore my opinion to one of equal merit to G-Unit's?  I live in hope..!

Yes, that's him alright in the pic posted on the Virgin Trains website. What are all those tickets sticking up from the backs of the seats?



Is this chap right?

The Transport Salaried Staffs Association said Virgin Trains was being "disingenuous", claiming the empty seats were in fact reserved.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37167700

The BBC seems to have more pics than Virgin, including this one;



It looks like Corbyn but is he sitting, talking or what? Perhaps Virgin will release the full video eventually. Not that I suspect Virgin of manipulating anything. What would they stand to gain except keeping their rail franchises?


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Re: Is the Labour Party in danger of imploding?
« Reply #287 on: August 23, 2016, 06:01:20 PM »
Yes, that's him alright in the pic posted on the Virgin Trains website. What are all those tickets sticking up from the backs of the seats?



Is this chap right?

The Transport Salaried Staffs Association said Virgin Trains was being "disingenuous", claiming the empty seats were in fact reserved.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37167700

The BBC seems to have more pics than Virgin, including this one;



It looks like Corbyn but is he sitting, talking or what? Perhaps Virgin will release the full video eventually. Not that I suspect Virgin of manipulating anything. What would they stand to gain except keeping their rail franchises?

Surely Corbyn reserved a seat ?

After all he must show leadership and organizational skills.




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Re: Is the Labour Party in danger of imploding?
« Reply #288 on: August 23, 2016, 06:27:41 PM »

Aren't we being told Corbyn is politics Mr. Clean and doesn't look for photo opportumites or the equivalent. 8**8:/:

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stephen25000

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Re: Is the Labour Party in danger of imploding?
« Reply #289 on: August 23, 2016, 06:31:54 PM »
I wonder if Corbyn supporters will be looking for safe seats at the next election.  @)(++(*

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Re: Is the Labour Party in danger of imploding?
« Reply #290 on: August 23, 2016, 07:41:39 PM »
If this was a stunt , and it is looking like it was, then he will have lost a lot more cred than it is believed he had.
JC seems a nice ,friendly guy you can sit havea have a chat with, but he has ambition, and determination- Hitler had ambiiton, and determination and his follwer loved the guy, but then...well, not always a good trait you know.

The Georgous,sexy, millionaire socialists, (no flat cappers here man, nay way) don't like him because he doesn't fit in with their greed and self serving,PR. Tthey don't support him because he doesn't fit their man for the corporate job of 'makin munny fur us' and to Tony 'makin moe munny for me' then corbyn will be eased out of office on something stupid... watch this spot!  and he should watch his back!
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Re: Is the Labour Party in danger of imploding?
« Reply #291 on: August 23, 2016, 08:11:47 PM »
If this was a stunt , and it is looking like it was, then he will have lost a lot more cred than it is believed he had.
JC seems a nice ,friendly guy you can sit havea have a chat with, but he has ambition, and determination- Hitler had ambiiton, and determination and his follwer loved the guy, but then...well, not always a good trait you know.

The Georgous,sexy, millionaire socialists, (no flat cappers here man, nay way) don't like him because he doesn't fit in with their greed and self serving,PR. Tthey don't support him because he doesn't fit their man for the corporate job of 'makin munny fur us' and to Tony 'makin moe munny for me' then corbyn will be eased out of office on something stupid... watch this spot!  and he should watch his back!

Luckily for him others are prepared to watch his back; other passengers are speaking out;

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/passengers-dispute-virgin-trains-version-of-jeremy-corbyn-sitting-on-floor-video-a7205631.html

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Re: Is the Labour Party in danger of imploding?
« Reply #292 on: August 23, 2016, 08:28:54 PM »
Luckily for him others are prepared to watch his back; other passengers are speaking out;

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/passengers-dispute-virgin-trains-version-of-jeremy-corbyn-sitting-on-floor-video-a7205631.html

I know someone who uses that line regularly, and agrees that something should be done and Corbyn giving it attention is a great thing. JC, if he travels a lot should book ahead like I  and many others do. He didn't have to sit on the floor at all, standing in the isle is what most people have to do.And he didn't have to sit there for the full journey. The rail companies are a disgrace. They need to go to Switzerland and see how it is done properly.
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stephen25000

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Re: Is the Labour Party in danger of imploding?
« Reply #293 on: August 23, 2016, 08:30:42 PM »
I know someone who uses that line regularly, and agrees that something should be done and Corbyn giving it attention is a great thing. JC, if he travels a lot should book ahead like I  and many others do. He didn't have to sit on the floor at all, standing in the isle is what most people have to do.And he didn't have to sit there for the full journey. The rail companies are a disgrace. They need to go to Switzerland and see how it is done properly.

How about someone who isn't a member of Corbyn's team or supporter backing up his claims. 8(0(*

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Re: Is the Labour Party in danger of imploding?
« Reply #294 on: August 24, 2016, 03:06:21 AM »
I was under the impression from Jeremy's initial report that he had to sit on the floor all the way from London to Newcastle.  Clearly this is not the case.  There were e reserved but empty seats he could have sat in, as well as first class (I believe he was offered a freeupgrade but he preferred to martyr himself for the cause).  What a stunt.  Of course the man still walks on water as far as his disciples are concerned, so no harm done.

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Re: Is the Labour Party in danger of imploding?
« Reply #295 on: August 24, 2016, 08:48:17 AM »
I was under the impression from Jeremy's initial report that he had to sit on the floor all the way from London to Newcastle.  Clearly this is not the case.  There were e reserved but empty seats he could have sat in, as well as first class (I believe he was offered a freeupgrade but he preferred to martyr himself for the cause).  What a stunt.  Of course the man still walks on water as far as his disciples are concerned, so no harm done.

That impression was from the original newspaper report, not from Corbyn. I think you should ask yourself why so many are determined to discredit Corbyn? What threat does he pose and who to? He poses no threat to me, I know that. Who would lose out?

Those who own our railways.
Those who own our buses.
Those who provide expensive childcare. [the costs of which are often met by the taxpayer through tax credits]
Those who charge high private rental rates [the costs of which are often met by the taxpayer]
Those who provide outsourced services to councils [paid by our council tax]
Ditto for the NHS, but paid through general taxes.
Those who pay low wages to their workers [subsidised by the taxpayer who pays the worker's tax credits]

Who would gain?

The taxpayer would gain the profits from railways and buses.
Workers would be able to access affordable childcare nationally provided and regulated.
Those living in substandard housing and paying high rents would gain; they might even get a council house.
Council services would improve because the competitive nature of outsourcing means that profit, not service, is the driving force.
No private company should make profit from the NHS.
The taxpayer should not be subsidising wages for those owning and running businesses. If they can't pay decent wages they haven't got a viable business.




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Re: Is the Labour Party in danger of imploding?
« Reply #296 on: August 24, 2016, 09:47:05 AM »
That impression was from the original newspaper report, not from Corbyn. I think you should ask yourself why so many are determined to discredit Corbyn? What threat does he pose and who to? He poses no threat to me, I know that. Who would lose out?

Those who own our railways.
Those who own our buses.
Those who provide expensive childcare. [the costs of which are often met by the taxpayer through tax credits]
Those who charge high private rental rates [the costs of which are often met by the taxpayer]
Those who provide outsourced services to councils [paid by our council tax]
Ditto for the NHS, but paid through general taxes.
Those who pay low wages to their workers [subsidised by the taxpayer who pays the worker's tax credits]

Who would gain?

The taxpayer would gain the profits from railways and buses.
Workers would be able to access affordable childcare nationally provided and regulated.
Those living in substandard housing and paying high rents would gain; they might even get a council house.
Council services would improve because the competitive nature of outsourcing means that profit, not service, is the driving force.
No private company should make profit from the NHS.
The taxpayer should not be subsidising wages for those owning and running businesses. If they can't pay decent wages they haven't got a viable business.


'No private company should make profit from the NHS.'

Drug companies included then ?

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Re: Is the Labour Party in danger of imploding?
« Reply #297 on: August 24, 2016, 10:37:54 AM »

'No private company should make profit from the NHS.'

Drug companies included then ?

Drugs are a complicated matter; a whole thread could be devoted to the behaviour of large pharmaceutical companies. There are excess profits, direct and indirect bribing of doctors, and a host of other evidence of greed and malpractice.

Obviously companies make profit selling to the NHS; from the greengrocer selling food to the staff canteen to the makers of high-tech machinery. Every organisation including the NHS should have a rigorous purchasing policy.

The PPP's have damaged the NHS because many hospitals don't own the buildings they occupy and they have large debts.

Perhaps I should have said no private company should be in a position to manipulate the NHS so as to enhance it's own profits.
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Re: Is the Labour Party in danger of imploding?
« Reply #298 on: August 24, 2016, 12:55:41 PM »
That impression was from the original newspaper report, not from Corbyn. I think you should ask yourself why so many are determined to discredit Corbyn? What threat does he pose and who to? He poses no threat to me, I know that. Who would lose out?

Those who own our railways.
Those who own our buses.
Those who provide expensive childcare. [the costs of which are often met by the taxpayer through tax credits]
Those who charge high private rental rates [the costs of which are often met by the taxpayer]
Those who provide outsourced services to councils [paid by our council tax]
Ditto for the NHS, but paid through general taxes.
Those who pay low wages to their workers [subsidised by the taxpayer who pays the worker's tax credits]

Who would gain?

The taxpayer would gain the profits from railways and buses.
Workers would be able to access affordable childcare nationally provided and regulated.
Those living in substandard housing and paying high rents would gain; they might even get a council house.
Council services would improve because the competitive nature of outsourcing means that profit, not service, is the driving force.
No private company should make profit from the NHS.
The taxpayer should not be subsidising wages for those owning and running businesses. If they can't pay decent wages they haven't got a viable business.
Corbyn poses no threat at all to anyone or anything execpt the PLP, that is the problem and that is why most Labour MPs voted no confidence in him. 

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Re: Is the Labour Party in danger of imploding?
« Reply #299 on: August 24, 2016, 01:06:23 PM »
Corbyn poses no threat at all to anyone or anything execpt the PLP, that is the problem and that is why most Labour MPs voted no confidence in him.

In himself no I agree but his inability to establish a proper opposition to the Tories going forward will be detrimental to the vast majority of workers in this country.
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