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Offline Angelo222

Re: Official Find Madeleine Campaign site on Facebook block non supporters!
« Reply #735 on: October 07, 2015, 05:49:48 PM »
The investigation to which you refer was not concerned with investigating Madeleine McCann's case.

The only investigation going on at that time was to prove her mother's culpability. Why on earth would any sane person co-operate in such an aberration?
Wham Bam! and another case is successfully off the books ... and had it been so, we would probably have a few more inexplicable child disappearances in the area and a special wing in prison reserved for their mothers.

Without going of topic too much.  Every investigator knows that when a kid disappears in suspicious circumstances it is the family who attract attention in the first instance.  The only family Madeleine had around her were her siblings and parents.  The PJ were right to suspect the latter and go through the motions.  The McCanns had other ideas though and that was their failing.
De troothe has the annoying habit of coming to the surface just when you least expect it!!

Je ne regrette rien!!

Offline Brietta

Re: Official Find Madeleine Campaign site on Facebook block non supporters!
« Reply #736 on: October 07, 2015, 05:55:05 PM »
The reason the McCanns exited twitter was because they couldn't control it and make it a site with only supporters posting on it.

Why would anyone wish to post anything other than support on a site dedicated to a missing child?
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Official Find Madeleine Campaign site on Facebook block non supporters!
« Reply #737 on: October 07, 2015, 05:56:56 PM »
The reason the McCanns exited twitter was because they couldn't control it and make it a site with only supporters posting on it.
You obviously don't understand twitter very well. 

Offline jassi

Re: Official Find Madeleine Campaign site on Facebook block non supporters!
« Reply #738 on: October 07, 2015, 05:58:59 PM »
Why would anyone wish to post anything other than support on a site dedicated to a missing child?

Presumably because they wish to leave the parents in no doubt of what people think of them.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Angelo222

Re: Official Find Madeleine Campaign site on Facebook block non supporters!
« Reply #739 on: October 07, 2015, 06:02:57 PM »
You obviously don't understand twitter very well.

Yes Alfie if you say so..   @)(++(*
De troothe has the annoying habit of coming to the surface just when you least expect it!!

Je ne regrette rien!!

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Official Find Madeleine Campaign site on Facebook block non supporters!
« Reply #740 on: October 07, 2015, 06:15:19 PM »
Yes Alfie if you say so..   @)(++(*
The OFM Twitter account had total control over what it posted to its followers.  None of its detractors had any control over what it tweeted or to whom.  Additionally, as we know the OFM twitter account could block any abuser or undesirable so that it did not have to read all the crap others were tweeting about.  However poor woman probably couldn't block out the crap coming her way fast enough and felt that enough was enough.  No one enjoys being abused relentlessly by dozens of anonymous trolls and ......... on a daily basis, and that's the main difference between twitter and facebook - there are fewer anonymous accounts on the latter, so generally less abuse (though it still exists of course).

Offline Brietta

Re: Official Find Madeleine Campaign site on Facebook block non supporters!
« Reply #741 on: October 07, 2015, 06:19:02 PM »
Presumably because they wish to leave the parents in no doubt of what people think of them.

Then using a vehicle set up to benefit a missing child and other missing children to vent their spleen is a repulsive action and rather shows them up for exactly what they are.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline G-Unit

Re: Official Find Madeleine Campaign site on Facebook block non supporters!
« Reply #742 on: October 07, 2015, 06:20:05 PM »
Why would anyone wish to post anything other than support on a site dedicated to a missing child?

Why would a well-known McCann supporter want to say on twitter that Ben Needham, being in his twenties, is old enough to 'find himself'?
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Offline jassi

Re: Official Find Madeleine Campaign site on Facebook block non supporters!
« Reply #743 on: October 07, 2015, 06:23:45 PM »
Then using a vehicle set up to benefit a missing child and other missing children to vent their spleen is a repulsive action and rather shows them up for exactly what they are.

I've never been clear how Madeleine, or anyone else has benefited from a twitter account.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

stephen25000

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Re: Official Find Madeleine Campaign site on Facebook block non supporters!
« Reply #744 on: October 07, 2015, 06:24:41 PM »
The reason the McCanns exited twitter was because they couldn't control it and make it a site with only supporters posting on it.

Another mccann tantrum then

Offline Brietta

Re: Official Find Madeleine Campaign site on Facebook block non supporters!
« Reply #745 on: October 07, 2015, 06:25:33 PM »
The OFM Twitter account had total control over what it posted to its followers.  None of its detractors had any control over what it tweeted or to whom.  Additionally, as we know the OFM twitter account could block any abuser or undesirable so that it did not have to read all the crap others were tweeting about.  However poor woman probably couldn't block out the crap coming her way fast enough and felt that enough was enough.  No one enjoys being abused relentlessly by dozens of anonymous trolls and ......... on a daily basis, and that's the main difference between twitter and facebook - there are fewer anonymous accounts on the latter, so generally less abuse (though it still exists of course).

Why would any civilised human being think that posting comments so vile they often reduced the recipient to tears ... day in ... day out ... is appropriate behaviour?
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline jassi

Re: Official Find Madeleine Campaign site on Facebook block non supporters!
« Reply #746 on: October 07, 2015, 06:30:00 PM »
Of course these posts weren't aimed at the webmaster, personally, were they?
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

stephen25000

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Re: Official Find Madeleine Campaign site on Facebook block non supporters!
« Reply #747 on: October 07, 2015, 06:30:25 PM »
Why would any civilised human being think that posting comments so vile they often reduced the recipient to tears ... day in ... day out ... is appropriate behaviour?

Some of your fellow mccann supporters need to follow that adage.

Offline Brietta

Re: Official Find Madeleine Campaign site on Facebook block non supporters!
« Reply #748 on: October 07, 2015, 06:32:28 PM »
I've never been clear how Madeleine, or anyone else has benefited from a twitter account.

Then I suggest you read back on this thread and read Misty's post on the subject.  In fact I'll save you the bother it deserves to be bumped.


Quote from: misty on Today at 12:28:51 AM
To re-enforce the point you have just made, further demonstrating the damage the trolls have done resulting in the closure of one outlet synonymous with missing children, namely Madeleine McCann :-

http://www.news.com.au/technology/online/when-missing-kids-go-viral-why-everyones-sharing-lost-children-now/story-fnjwnhzf-1227558043736

THE idea of a “viral” missing child sounds wrong, like people rubbernecking from their cars for a better view of an accident.

While it’s uncomfortable evidence of our base instincts, this fascination with real-life horror stories could be key to solving some of the world’s most perplexing disappearances.

Despite serious concerns over false leads and trolling, these rapidly expanding networks have already been responsible for finding children who might otherwise have been lost forever.

The numbers are persuasive. Missing toddler William Tyrrell’s Facebook page has more than 57,000 likes, with users as far afield as the US and the Netherlands sharing his story.

A typical appeal on the Australian Missing and Endangered Children Facebook page about Clive Hart, a 12-year-old who went missing in Perth two weeks ago, has had more than 800 shares across the country. Commenters on the page often add their postcode to illustrate how far the post has been shared. “Shared Gladstone 4680”, comments a Queensland woman on Clive’s post. “Shared 2680”, adds a user from Griffith, NSW.

It’s a global phenomenon. Missing Children Argentina has almost 150,000 likes. A post about Sofia Herrera, a child who vanished seven years ago, reads: “It takes more inquisitive glances, more restless attitudes, more pro-activeness, more sensitivity, more interest, more activity in the search. Sofia needs us.” It has almost 7000 shares.

“Thanks for sharing your image,” reads another post. “Thanks for lending us your eyes.”

Missing Children South Africa has almost 60,000 likes, while America’s National Center for Missing and Exploited Children has 291,631 likes, with a post about missing Ohio two-year-old Rainn Peterson gaining almost 19,000 shares (she has since been found).

It’s hard to quantify how many of these posts have led to a child being located, since witnesses are encouraged to directly contact the police, rather than speculate online. But there are definite examples.

In January, Carl Koppelman solved the cold case of 16-year-old Tammy Jo Alexander, who went missing in the 1970s, when a childhood friend shared a photo. He recognised Tammy Jo from a photo on the WebSleuths site of an unidentified US teenager found shot to death in a cornfield in 1979. Could a similar moment help discover the identity of South Australia’s suitcase girl?

Last June, a cashier at a truck stop in Louisiana was approached by a middle-aged man and a teenager she recognised from an online video, local TV station 10 News reported. Fawn Dominque sent the pair to another cashier while she checked the footage, and then rang the police. She had found Ashley Lyon from Florida and her abductor, 41-year-old Steven Myers.
Dominque had recognised them from one of the more controversial pages about missing kids — that of former prosecutor Nancy Grace, a TV personality on CNN’s “must-see, must-share” channel HLN.
Grace has almost two million likes, and one recent post about an abandoned baby gained 50,000 shares.

The larger-than-life, divisive star operates at the intersection between real-life crime and entertainment. Her team use Crowdtangle, a tool that helps companies find and track content that’s performing strongly across the social web, Buzzfeed reported this week. Producers filter for grisly crime, helping them identify the missing children, abductions, rapes and murders that are triggering the highest sharing rates among Facebook users.

It’s disconcerting that cases might get extra attention depending on how attractive a child is or how relatable the crime, but it’s something that’s been happening in the media for decades.

The parents of missing three-year-old Madeleine McCann endured years of unproven allegations against them, which led to an inquiry into press standards in the UK. With social media stoking the fire, some campaigns to track down a missing child can get out of hand, and unsubstantiated rumours built up into stories with the power to ruin lives.

Amateur online detectives have caused all sorts of distress to victims’ families and friends and innocent suspects in murder cases.

Popular podcast Serial hit the headlines when it provoked a frenzy of speculation about a 1999 high school murder, upsetting and angering the victim’s family.
Back in 1996, the case of murdered six-year-old JonBenet Ramsey led to what her parents John and Patsy called “the first cyberspace lynching”, a new form of witch-hunting and vigil[ censored word]m that tore into almost everyone connected to the case, and contributed to the shutdown of the Justice Watch website.
A posting of William Tyrrell’s story to the “Unresolved Mysteries” section of social network Reddit, which has 114,446 readers, recently attracted 200-plus comments, including uncorroborated accusations against family members and government organisations. Another post about the case on Facebook reads: “I was up in applehill today and seen a boy they also called william that looked just like your some and when I saw them I had gotten a sick feeling about it” (sic).

But despite the upsetting effect of these comments, even the slim chance that a child could be found keeps families determined to use the connected world of social media. Relatives often run Facebook pages themselves, or post regular public appeals years after the police have had to move on. When Suzie Ratcliffe posted on Facebook in 2012 about her sister Joanne, who went missing at Adelaide Oval in 1973, a woman came forward with potential new clues.

It’s a world of pain, shattered hopes and potential exploitation of tragedy for personal and commercial gain. Nevertheless, most parents with a lost child would pray for their baby to go viral.

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=6663.msg279025#msg279025
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Official Find Madeleine Campaign site on Facebook block non supporters!
« Reply #749 on: October 07, 2015, 06:32:47 PM »
As you don't really understand Facebook it seems a bit pointless having this discussion with you.  Nevertheless, the notion that everyone on FB is buying likes to boost their page is simply nonsense.  It's easy to spot those pages that have resorted to it (and IMO they are few and far between these days).  These are pages with huge amounts of likes but very little actual interaction from other users, such as comments under posts, shares, etc.  This does not apply to OFM which has a very active online community with thousands of comments and shares after every post.   Companies that do buy likes to make their product seem more popular than their competitors run the risk of losing all credibility when it becomes apparent (which it will) that their likes are not genuine.  I would never dream of buying likes for my business, and I can't see any reason why the McCanns would feel the need to boost their number artificially from a very healthy 160k to 600,000 - what purpose would it serve anyway?  "My missing child is more popular than your missing child?"  Puh-lease.

"I  can't see" is hardly a definitive statement now is it? It is merely your opinion.
As for what you do with your business how is that relevant here?
All I have said is "if it can be done it is best to assume it has been done in the absence of incontrovertible evidence to the contrary". You disagree with that as a global principle; fair enough.
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