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Offline faithlilly

Re: Official Find Madeleine Campaign site on Facebook block non supporters!
« Reply #630 on: October 07, 2015, 12:19:34 AM »
What Faithlilly seems to be saying is that it matters not a jot whether Kerry Needham actually WAS abused by McCann supporters, all that matters is that the GBP believe that she was, and that somehow this has destroyed the credibility of McCann supporters forever more.  Have I got that right?  If so, no wonder she's feeling so deliriously pleased with herself tonight!

In the PR war being waged by the McCanns all that does matter is what the GBP can be made to believe.

Unfortunately they miscalculated the consequences this time.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline faithlilly

Re: Official Find Madeleine Campaign site on Facebook block non supporters!
« Reply #631 on: October 07, 2015, 12:20:37 AM »
As if life isn't difficult enough for these two families ... it seems there are those with nothing better to do than try to drive a wedge between them for their own personal motives be it malice or sheer enjoyment. 

The forced withdrawal from twitter doesn't help anyone ... particularly children whose kidnapping by a parent or relative can be flagged up in time to prevent something more serious happening.

"What about all the other missing children?" ... maybe that is one lifeline less for them.

Then perhaps the McCanns shouldn't have pulled their Twitter account in a fit of pique.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline misty

Re: Official Find Madeleine Campaign site on Facebook block non supporters!
« Reply #632 on: October 07, 2015, 12:28:51 AM »
As if life isn't difficult enough for these two families ... it seems there are those with nothing better to do than try to drive a wedge between them for their own personal motives be it malice or sheer enjoyment. 

The forced withdrawal from twitter doesn't help anyone ... particularly children whose kidnapping by a parent or relative can be flagged up in time to prevent something more serious happening.

"What about all the other missing children?" ... maybe that is one lifeline less for them.

To re-enforce the point you have just made, further demonstrating the damage the trolls have done resulting in the closure of one outlet synonymous with missing children, namely Madeleine McCann :-

http://www.news.com.au/technology/online/when-missing-kids-go-viral-why-everyones-sharing-lost-children-now/story-fnjwnhzf-1227558043736

THE idea of a “viral” missing child sounds wrong, like people rubbernecking from their cars for a better view of an accident.

While it’s uncomfortable evidence of our base instincts, this fascination with real-life horror stories could be key to solving some of the world’s most perplexing disappearances.

Despite serious concerns over false leads and trolling, these rapidly expanding networks have already been responsible for finding children who might otherwise have been lost forever.

The numbers are persuasive. Missing toddler William Tyrrell’s Facebook page has more than 57,000 likes, with users as far afield as the US and the Netherlands sharing his story.

A typical appeal on the Australian Missing and Endangered Children Facebook page about Clive Hart, a 12-year-old who went missing in Perth two weeks ago, has had more than 800 shares across the country. Commenters on the page often add their postcode to illustrate how far the post has been shared. “Shared Gladstone 4680”, comments a Queensland woman on Clive’s post. “Shared 2680”, adds a user from Griffith, NSW.

It’s a global phenomenon. Missing Children Argentina has almost 150,000 likes. A post about Sofia Herrera, a child who vanished seven years ago, reads: “It takes more inquisitive glances, more restless attitudes, more pro-activeness, more sensitivity, more interest, more activity in the search. Sofia needs us.” It has almost 7000 shares.

“Thanks for sharing your image,” reads another post. “Thanks for lending us your eyes.”

Missing Children South Africa has almost 60,000 likes, while America’s National Center for Missing and Exploited Children has 291,631 likes, with a post about missing Ohio two-year-old Rainn Peterson gaining almost 19,000 shares (she has since been found).

It’s hard to quantify how many of these posts have led to a child being located, since witnesses are encouraged to directly contact the police, rather than speculate online. But there are definite examples.

In January, Carl Koppelman solved the cold case of 16-year-old Tammy Jo Alexander, who went missing in the 1970s, when a childhood friend shared a photo. He recognised Tammy Jo from a photo on the WebSleuths site of an unidentified US teenager found shot to death in a cornfield in 1979. Could a similar moment help discover the identity of South Australia’s suitcase girl?

Last June, a cashier at a truck stop in Louisiana was approached by a middle-aged man and a teenager she recognised from an online video, local TV station 10 News reported. Fawn Dominque sent the pair to another cashier while she checked the footage, and then rang the police. She had found Ashley Lyon from Florida and her abductor, 41-year-old Steven Myers.
Dominque had recognised them from one of the more controversial pages about missing kids — that of former prosecutor Nancy Grace, a TV personality on CNN’s “must-see, must-share” channel HLN.
Grace has almost two million likes, and one recent post about an abandoned baby gained 50,000 shares.

The larger-than-life, divisive star operates at the intersection between real-life crime and entertainment. Her team use Crowdtangle, a tool that helps companies find and track content that’s performing strongly across the social web, Buzzfeed reported this week. Producers filter for grisly crime, helping them identify the missing children, abductions, rapes and murders that are triggering the highest sharing rates among Facebook users.

It’s disconcerting that cases might get extra attention depending on how attractive a child is or how relatable the crime, but it’s something that’s been happening in the media for decades.

The parents of missing three-year-old Madeleine McCann endured years of unproven allegations against them, which led to an inquiry into press standards in the UK. With social media stoking the fire, some campaigns to track down a missing child can get out of hand, and unsubstantiated rumours built up into stories with the power to ruin lives.

Amateur online detectives have caused all sorts of distress to victims’ families and friends and innocent suspects in murder cases.

Popular podcast Serial hit the headlines when it provoked a frenzy of speculation about a 1999 high school murder, upsetting and angering the victim’s family.
Back in 1996, the case of murdered six-year-old JonBenet Ramsey led to what her parents John and Patsy called “the first cyberspace lynching”, a new form of witch-hunting and vigil[ censored word]m that tore into almost everyone connected to the case, and contributed to the shutdown of the Justice Watch website.
A posting of William Tyrrell’s story to the “Unresolved Mysteries” section of social network Reddit, which has 114,446 readers, recently attracted 200-plus comments, including uncorroborated accusations against family members and government organisations. Another post about the case on Facebook reads: “I was up in applehill today and seen a boy they also called william that looked just like your some and when I saw them I had gotten a sick feeling about it” (sic).

But despite the upsetting effect of these comments, even the slim chance that a child could be found keeps families determined to use the connected world of social media. Relatives often run Facebook pages themselves, or post regular public appeals years after the police have had to move on. When Suzie Ratcliffe posted on Facebook in 2012 about her sister Joanne, who went missing at Adelaide Oval in 1973, a woman came forward with potential new clues.

It’s a world of pain, shattered hopes and potential exploitation of tragedy for personal and commercial gain. Nevertheless, most parents with a lost child would pray for their baby to go viral.




« Last Edit: October 07, 2015, 01:00:45 AM by misty »

Offline Brietta

Re: Official Find Madeleine Campaign site on Facebook block non supporters!
« Reply #633 on: October 07, 2015, 12:46:22 AM »
To re-enforce the point you have just made, further demonstrating the damage the trolls have done resulting in the closure of one outlet synonymous with missing children, namely Madeleine McCann :-

http://www.news.com.au/technology/online/when-missing-kids-go-viral-why-everyones-sharing-lost-children-
now/story-fnjwnhzf-1227558043736

THE idea of a “viral” missing child sounds wrong, like people rubbernecking from their cars for a better view of an accident.

While it’s uncomfortable evidence of our base instincts, this fascination with real-life horror stories could be key to solving some of the world’s most perplexing disappearances.

Despite serious concerns over false leads and trolling, these rapidly expanding networks have already been responsible for finding children who might otherwise have been lost forever.

The numbers are persuasive. Missing toddler William Tyrrell’s Facebook page has more than 57,000 likes, with users as far afield as the US and the Netherlands sharing his story.

A typical appeal on the Australian Missing and Endangered Children Facebook page about Clive Hart, a 12-year-old who went missing in Perth two weeks ago, has had more than 800 shares across the country. Commenters on the page often add their postcode to illustrate how far the post has been shared. “Shared Gladstone 4680”, comments a Queensland woman on Clive’s post. “Shared 2680”, adds a user from Griffith, NSW.

It’s a global phenomenon. Missing Children Argentina has almost 150,000 likes. A post about Sofia Herrera, a child who vanished seven years ago, reads: “It takes more inquisitive glances, more restless attitudes, more pro-activeness, more sensitivity, more interest, more activity in the search. Sofia needs us.” It has almost 7000 shares.

“Thanks for sharing your image,” reads another post. “Thanks for lending us your eyes.”

Missing Children South Africa has almost 60,000 likes, while America’s National Center for Missing and Exploited Children has 291,631 likes, with a post about missing Ohio two-year-old Rainn Peterson gaining almost 19,000 shares (she has since been found).

It’s hard to quantify how many of these posts have led to a child being located, since witnesses are encouraged to directly contact the police, rather than speculate online. But there are definite examples.

In January, Carl Koppelman solved the cold case of 16-year-old Tammy Jo Alexander, who went missing in the 1970s, when a childhood friend shared a photo. He recognised Tammy Jo from a photo on the WebSleuths site of an unidentified US teenager found shot to death in a cornfield in 1979. Could a similar moment help discover the identity of South Australia’s suitcase girl?

Last June, a cashier at a truck stop in Louisiana was approached by a middle-aged man and a teenager she recognised from an online video, local TV station 10 News reported. Fawn Dominque sent the pair to another cashier while she checked the footage, and then rang the police. She had found Ashley Lyon from Florida and her abductor, 41-year-old Steven Myers.
Dominque had recognised them from one of the more controversial pages about missing kids — that of former prosecutor Nancy Grace, a TV personality on CNN’s “must-see, must-share” channel HLN.
Grace has almost two million likes, and one recent post about an abandoned baby gained 50,000 shares.

The larger-than-life, divisive star operates at the intersection between real-life crime and entertainment. Her team use Crowdtangle, a tool that helps companies find and track content that’s performing strongly across the social web, Buzzfeed reported this week. Producers filter for grisly crime, helping them identify the missing children, abductions, rapes and murders that are triggering the highest sharing rates among Facebook users.

It’s disconcerting that cases might get extra attention depending on how attractive a child is or how relatable the crime, but it’s something that’s been happening in the media for decades.

The parents of missing three-year-old Madeleine McCann endured years of unproven allegations against them, which led to an inquiry into press standards in the UK. With social media stoking the fire, some campaigns to track down a missing child can get out of hand, and unsubstantiated rumours built up into stories with the power to ruin lives.

Amateur online detectives have caused all sorts of distress to victims’ families and friends and innocent suspects in murder cases.

Popular podcast Serial hit the headlines when it provoked a frenzy of speculation about a 1999 high school murder, upsetting and angering the victim’s family.
Back in 1996, the case of murdered six-year-old JonBenet Ramsey led to what her parents John and Patsy called “the first cyberspace lynching”, a new form of witch-hunting and vigil[ censored word]m that tore into almost everyone connected to the case, and contributed to the shutdown of the Justice Watch website.
A posting of William Tyrrell’s story to the “Unresolved Mysteries” section of social network Reddit, which has 114,446 readers, recently attracted 200-plus comments, including uncorroborated accusations against family members and government organisations. Another post about the case on Facebook reads: “I was up in applehill today and seen a boy they also called william that looked just like your some and when I saw them I had gotten a sick feeling about it” (sic).

But despite the upsetting effect of these comments, even the slim chance that a child could be found keeps families determined to use the connected world of social media. Relatives often run Facebook pages themselves, or post regular public appeals years after the police have had to move on. When Suzie Ratcliffe posted on Facebook in 2012 about her sister Joanne, who went missing at Adelaide Oval in 1973, a woman came forward with potential new clues.

It’s a world of pain, shattered hopes and potential exploitation of tragedy for personal and commercial gain. Nevertheless, most parents with a lost child would pray for their baby to go viral.


I couldn't follow your link, Misty, like the people who are trying to derail Madeleine's campaign in any which way they can ... it isn't joined up. Try ...
http://www.news.com.au/technology/online/when-missing-kids-go-viral-why-everyones-sharing-lost-children-now/story-fnjwnhzf-1227558043736
 

Heartbreaking article, though and very thought provoking about the desperation of people looking for their loved ones.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline misty

Re: Official Find Madeleine Campaign site on Facebook block non supporters!
« Reply #634 on: October 07, 2015, 01:03:10 AM »

I couldn't follow your link, Misty, like the people who are trying to derail Madeleine's campaign in any which way they can ... it isn't joined up. Try ...
http://www.news.com.au/technology/online/when-missing-kids-go-viral-why-everyones-sharing-lost-children-now/story-fnjwnhzf-1227558043736
 

Heartbreaking article, though and very thought provoking about the desperation of people looking for their loved ones.

Thanks for pointing that out, I have amended my link. (I'm having a lot of problems c&p'ing on Windows 10 & Edge for some reason)

Offline Brietta

Re: Official Find Madeleine Campaign site on Facebook block non supporters!
« Reply #635 on: October 07, 2015, 01:10:51 AM »
Thanks for pointing that out, I have amended my link. (I'm having a lot of problems c&p'ing on Windows 10 & Edge for some reason)

From your link I went to the Australian suitcase child and watched the webcam video released by the police.

Chilling that it was reported ... "Detectives are sorting through the records of thousands of children who match the profile of the little girl and could be the victim.
How sad there are all those missing children and tortured families out there.  Yet no-one has claimed this little girl.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline misty

Re: Official Find Madeleine Campaign site on Facebook block non supporters!
« Reply #636 on: October 07, 2015, 01:30:23 AM »
From your link I went to the Australian suitcase child and watched the webcam video released by the police.

Chilling that it was reported ... "Detectives are sorting through the records of thousands of children who match the profile of the little girl and could be the victim.
How sad there are all those missing children and tortured families out there.  Yet no-one has claimed this little girl.

It is a strange case, for sure.
She may be an adopted or fostered child lost to the system, or something more sinister - perhaps not even a native Australian.
There are a lot of tortured families out there, some of which know where the child is but legally are unable to bring them home. These are troubled times.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Official Find Madeleine Campaign site on Facebook block non supporters!
« Reply #637 on: October 07, 2015, 07:15:21 AM »
I agree Benice, the general public will be appalled but by the seemingly senseless abuse of a single mother by the juggernaut that is the McCann 'campaign'.

the general public will not bat an eyelid

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Official Find Madeleine Campaign site on Facebook block non supporters!
« Reply #638 on: October 07, 2015, 07:19:25 AM »
The McCanns in this instance have definitely been hoisted by their own petard.

Painting yourself as victims is something the McCanns have excelled at from the very beginning. And demonising those you claim to be victimising you isn't hard in a country that loathes bullies.

So now we have Kerry stating in the print media that she has had McCann-supporting trolls abuse her. The public will believe her, they have no reason not to. That no one has provided proof of this abuse will not matter. That Kerry, the grieving mother of a vanished child, has claimed she has been abused will be more than enough evidence for the GBP.

So now and for ever more McCann supporters will be villified for abusing the mother of a missing child. They can cry foul in their fetid forums forever but to the GBP it will matter not one jot. The moral high ground is theirs to claim no longer. Kerry is the victim, the faithful , and  by extension the McCanns, the aggressors.

What a delicious irony !

the GBP won't bat an eyelid

Offline carlymichelle

Re: Official Find Madeleine Campaign site on Facebook block non supporters!
« Reply #639 on: October 07, 2015, 07:21:15 AM »
the GBP won't bat an eyelid
they already have davel so has the rest of the world but keep in your fantasy  land 

stephen25000

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Re: Official Find Madeleine Campaign site on Facebook block non supporters!
« Reply #640 on: October 07, 2015, 07:22:45 AM »
LoL - You're the one desperately trying to deflect away from the fact that Kerry supports the McCanns - which in view of your opinion of anyone and everyone who supports them -  makes your 'approving' posts about what she said more than a tad hypocritical IMO.     As she is a supporter of the McCanns I'm surprised you haven't posted   'We only have her word for it'.   That's what you usually do.

Anyway I'll leave you to carry on wriggling.  Goodnight Stephen.

I predict the usual 'tit for tat' response.

You didn't answer my question.

Do you think Madeleine will be found ?

and don't preach about tit for tat, that's just what you did.


stephen25000

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Re: Official Find Madeleine Campaign site on Facebook block non supporters!
« Reply #641 on: October 07, 2015, 07:34:56 AM »
I've just seen a really sick making comment directed towards the Drs McCann within a minute of entering another forum ... I would go so far as to say it was evil.

You are accusing McCann supporters of posting the same sort of hatred ... please be so kind as to name and shame ... in other words ... put up, or shut up.

Try reading  Kerry Needhams statement.

YOU ARE IN DENIAL.

stephen25000

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Re: Official Find Madeleine Campaign site on Facebook block non supporters!
« Reply #642 on: October 07, 2015, 07:36:37 AM »
As if life isn't difficult enough for these two families ... it seems there are those with nothing better to do than try to drive a wedge between them for their own personal motives be it malice or sheer enjoyment. 

The forced withdrawal from twitter doesn't help anyone ... particularly children whose kidnapping by a parent or relative can be flagged up in time to prevent something more serious happening.

"What about all the other missing children?" ... maybe that is one lifeline less for them.

tHE WEDGE CAME FROM WHO IS BEHIND THE Madeleine FACEBOOK PAGE.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Official Find Madeleine Campaign site on Facebook block non supporters!
« Reply #643 on: October 07, 2015, 07:42:56 AM »
The GBP wont bat an eyelid...a major misunderstanding has happened...interestingly Kerry Needham has criticised the McCanns but the McCanns have not criticised the Needhams

stephen25000

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Re: Official Find Madeleine Campaign site on Facebook block non supporters!
« Reply #644 on: October 07, 2015, 07:44:50 AM »
The GBP wont bat an eyelid...a major misunderstanding has happened...interestingly Kerry Needham has criticised the McCanns but the McCanns have not criticised the Needhams

Trough their proxies dave they have, as usual.