Shane Mitchell’s whereabouts during the course of the entire evening?

[Mr Apples]

For many, SM’s failure to corroborate his younger brother’s alibi was one of the most salient pieces of evidence pointing towards LM’s guilt. Despite this, there doesn’t appear to be much information in the public domain regarding SM’s whereabouts that evening, after his infamous internet session between 1650 - 1716 hrs. The only info that does seem to be available around the issue of his whereabouts in the evening is that he left the house shortly after LM did (at approx 1730/1740 hrs) and, according to CM, he was in and out of the house quite a lot that evening (which CM said was a tad annoying as she was trying to have a fly cigarette, after telling her boys she had quit smoking; she mentions this in a podcast). The only other thing that has been mentioned with regards to SM’s whereabouts after 1730 hrs is that he was caught out lying/fabricating about where he had been that night and that he was allegedly, at one point that evening, 7 miles away somewhere filling his car with petrol.Why so far away? We know that he was in the house at 2240 as he had given LM a torch to go out searching for Jodi with (along with the dog, Mia). But, what was he doing over the entire course of that evening? A lot of focus was placed upon CM as possibly the person who was burning blood-stained, forensically incriminating clothing belonging to her son LM in the Mitchells’ log burner. But, could it have been SM solely who was the person burning said clothing? I did read very recently on a youtube comment (not the most reliable source, admittedly) that, in addition to fires being lit in the Mitchells’ garden at 1830 and 2200, there was another sighting of burning taking place in their garden at 0200 on 01.07.03 (in which case, it would have to have been SM doing this, since CM & LM were being questioned at the police station at this time). Or was it a joint effort by the two? Were their clothes tested? Were they smelling of smoke? More to the point, which other aspects of the case was SM cross-examined about or what evidence about him was led at court that was separate from his porn site/car site session?

I would really appreciate your input on this one, preferably with cites.

Thanks.

[Nicholas]

there doesn’t appear to be much information in the public domain regarding SM’s whereabouts that evening, after his infamous internet session between 1650 - 1716 hrs. The only info that does seem to be available around the issue of his whereabouts in the evening is that he left the house shortly after LM did (at approx 1730/1740 hrs) and, according to CM, he was in and out of the house quite a lot that evening (which CM said was a tad annoying as she was trying to have a fly cigarette, after telling her boys she had quit smoking; she mentions this in a podcast).

Did Shane Mitchell help his brother dispose of any materials that night?

[Mr Apples]

Interesting quote from Parky41, on this very forum, a few years ago:

Why did SM travel into Oxgangs later that evening, after 9pm to get fuel? As this is why he said he travelled there, to fuel up the car? - Are there any scrap merchants near Oxgangs that SM used? A mechanic having access to this place?  Why Oxgangs for fuel? there were many other stations to get fuel? Tesco just up the road? Was SM disposing of evidence? Why was CM's car spotted elsewhere? Was SM driving it? When she claimed to be home all evening? What are these new claims that her car was at the West end of this path later that evening? only being heard now? - Why are we not hearing about these reports from these witness's who came forward? - Why is SL dismissing these as being wrong or mistaken, or idle gossip? - but asking people to consider every other piece of hearsay? Or unproven claims that the defence sought not to use - why does she feel she is somewhat superior in intelligence to every expert in their field?

Parky41, where did you hear about SM travelling to Oxgangs? Please forward a cite. Or did you read it on that private group you are a member of -- the private group, some of whose members allegedly attended Luke Mitchell's trial between November 2004 and January 2005? It would be very useful indeed if you could post a link to this private group (you can even pm me if you don't wish to divulge this group publicly . . . mum's the word, and all that).

[Nicholas]

24th March 2010
Corinne Mitchell
nugnug.

thank you for that post. Everyone should read this book. I know,from experience that it can happen to anyone. We were an normal, law abiding family with no problems. None of us had been in trouble with the police. It is really scary, in this day and age that this can happen.

Who supplied Shane Mitchell, Corinne Mitchell & L Mitchell their drugs

Where was Shane Mitchell on the night of the murder and what was he doing

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[Nicholas]

Interesting quote from Parky41, on this very forum, a few years ago:

Why did SM travel into Oxgangs later that evening, after 9pm to get fuel? As this is why he said he travelled there, to fuel up the car? - Are there any scrap merchants near Oxgangs that SM used? A mechanic having access to this place?  Why Oxgangs for fuel? there were many other stations to get fuel? Tesco just up the road? Was SM disposing of evidence? Why was CM's car spotted elsewhere? Was SM driving it? When she claimed to be home all evening? What are these new claims that her car was at the West end of this path later that evening? only being heard now? - Why are we not hearing about these reports from these witness's who came forward? - Why is SL dismissing these as being wrong or mistaken, or idle gossip? - but asking people to consider every other piece of hearsay? Or unproven claims that the defence sought not to use - why does she feel she is somewhat superior in intelligence to every expert in their field?

So much in this campaign/case has been hidden

[Nicholas]

For many, SM’s failure to corroborate his younger brother’s alibi was one of the most salient pieces of evidence pointing towards LM’s guilt. Despite this, there doesn’t appear to be much information in the public domain regarding SM’s whereabouts that evening, after his infamous internet session between 1650 - 1716 hrs. The only info that does seem to be available around the issue of his whereabouts in the evening is that he left the house shortly after LM did (at approx 1730/1740 hrs) and, according to CM, he was in and out of the house quite a lot that evening (which CM said was a tad annoying as she was trying to have a fly cigarette, after telling her boys she had quit smoking;

So many lies

[Nicholas]

and, according to CM, he was in and out of the house quite a lot that evening (which CM said was a tad annoying as she was trying to have a fly cigarette, after telling her boys she had quit smoking; she mentions this in a podcast).

Telling too

[Nicholas]

But, could it have been SM solely who was the person burning said clothing? I did read very recently on a youtube comment (not the most reliable source, admittedly) that, in addition to fires being lit in the Mitchells’ garden at 1830 and 2200, there was another sighting of burning taking place in their garden at 0200 on 01.07.03 (in which case, it would have to have been SM doing this, since CM & LM were being questioned at the police station at this time). Or was it a joint effort by the two? Were their clothes tested? Were they smelling of smoke? More to the point, which other aspects of the case was SM cross-examined about or what evidence about him was led at court that was separate from his porn site/car site session?

Did you read Shaun Hall’s (Brother of killer Simon Hall) fantastical witness statement about travelling to Lincolnshire for the Christmas family meal on the 16th December 2001 and of him swapping bracelets with his brother Simon around the time forensics were carried out on the cars?

Shaun Hall never went on the family Christmas meal by the way nor was he collected by Phil Hall on the morning of Sunday the 16th Dec but only claims to ‘remember’ this after Suffolk police make arrests on the 25th of July 2002

Killers and their family members/enablers can and do lie.

There is definitely more to Shane Mitchell and his movements than has been told up until now, especially given the fact he was arrested and charged with perverting the course of justice.

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[Nicholas]

For many, SM’s failure to corroborate his younger brother’s alibi was one of the most salient pieces of evidence pointing towards LM’s guilt. Despite this, there doesn’t appear to be much information in the public domain regarding SM’s whereabouts that evening, after his infamous internet session between 1650 - 1716 hrs. The only info that does seem to be available around the issue of his whereabouts in the evening is that he left the house shortly after LM did (at approx 1730/1740 hrs) and, according to CM, he was in and out of the house quite a lot that evening (which CM said was a tad annoying as she was trying to have a fly cigarette, after telling her boys she had quit smoking; she mentions this in a podcast). The only other thing that has been mentioned with regards to SM’s whereabouts after 1730 hrs is that he was caught out lying/fabricating about where he had been that night and that he was allegedly, at one point that evening, 7 miles away somewhere filling his car with petrol.Why so far away? We know that he was in the house at 2240 as he had given LM a torch to go out searching for Jodi with (along with the dog, Mia). But, what was he doing over the entire course of that evening? A lot of focus was placed upon CM as possibly the person who was burning blood-stained, forensically incriminating clothing belonging to her son LM in the Mitchells’ log burner. But, could it have been SM solely who was the person burning said clothing? I did read very recently on a youtube comment (not the most reliable source, admittedly) that, in addition to fires being lit in the Mitchells’ garden at 1830 and 2200, there was another sighting of burning taking place in their garden at 0200 on 01.07.03 (in which case, it would have to have been SM doing this, since CM & LM were being questioned at the police station at this time). Or was it a joint effort by the two? Were their clothes tested? Were they smelling of smoke? More to the point, which other aspects of the case was SM cross-examined about or what evidence about him was led at court that was separate from his porn site/car site session?

I would really appreciate your input on this one, preferably with cites.

Thanks.

It is not known if Shaun Hall was also arrested on the 25th of July 2002 but his police witness statement was made at an Ipswich police station, whilst his brother was taken to a different police station

Shaun Hall lied in his 25th of July 2002 police witness statement

[Nicholas]

Why is SL dismissing these as being wrong or mistaken, or idle gossip? - but asking people to consider every other piece of hearsay? Or unproven claims that the defence sought not to use - why does she feel she is somewhat superior in intelligence to every expert in their field?[/b]

Sandra Lean has been purposefully deflecting away from Shane Mitchell and his antics that night

Also, for example, Shaun Hall stated:

‘I do not recall anything unusual about Simon over that weekend, other than the usual, he had no money’

Shaun Hall didn’t see his brother that weekend

But if you read his witness statement it sounds like Shaun has spoken to either his parents Lynne and Phil, or brother Simon about the Christmas family meal as he,went into detail about their timings and where there went after the meal etc

[Nicholas]

Interesting quote from Parky41, on this very forum, a few years ago:

Why is SL dismissing these as being wrong or mistaken, or idle gossip? - but asking people to consider every other piece of hearsay? Or unproven claims that the defence sought not to use - why does she feel she is somewhat superior in intelligence to every expert in their field?

Shaun Hall was also listed as a witness in the trial but a search online regarding this brings up nothing and Sandra Lean says nothing in her book ‘No Smoke’ about Shaun’s blatant lies to Suffolk police on the 25th of July 2002 either

Nor does Sandra Lean mention anything about Shaun and Simon Hall swapping bracelets

[Nicholas]

Shaun Hall was also listed as a witness in the trial but a search online regarding this brings up nothing and Sandra Lean says nothing in her book ‘No Smoke’ about Shaun’s blatant lies to Suffolk police on the 25th of July 2002 either

Nor does Sandra Lean mention anything about Shaun and Simon Hall swapping bracelets

Why hasn’t Sandra Lean told all the people she is duping about Shane Mitchell’s exact movements on the night of [Name removed]’s murder and what exactly Shane Mitchell was doing?

Was Shane Mitchell in the back garden helping his younger brother burn the clothes or did Shane or Corinne take the clothing Luke was wearing with them in the car, along with his knives, and dispose of them as far away as they could?

Simon Hall didn’t dispose of the clothes and shoes he was wearing until the Monday morning - the Mitchell’s had four days to get rid of incrimatimg eveidnece and clean up the log burner for example

[Nicholas]

The only other thing that has been mentioned with regards to SM’s whereabouts after 1730 hrs is that he was caught out lying/fabricating about where he had been that night and that he was allegedly, at one point that evening, 7 miles away somewhere filling his car with petrol.Why so far away? We know that he was in the house at 2240 as he had given LM a torch to go out searching for Jodi with (along with the dog, Mia). But, what was he doing over the entire course of that evening?

Was Shane Mitchell definitely in the house at 2240 and did he really give his younger brother Luke a torch?

Luke was seen by one of the neighbours at 10:00pm that night walking past his house so where exactly had he been or where was he going?

Sandra Lean doesn’t include the 10pm sighting of Luke in her 2010 timeline below

Jigsawman aka Sandra Lean

Timeline Monday June 30th 2003.

9pm After hanging around the abbey for a couple of hours, the boys head for home. Luke goes up to his room and puts on a video of Red dwarf.
10.30pm Luke takes the dog for her last walk of the evening.
10.39pm Judy sends a text to Lukes phone, Right Toad, say goodnight toLuke. Thats you grounded for another week.

If Luke really did take Mia out for a walk ar 10:30pm wouldn’t he have had a torch with him then?

Did the police seize a torch from Luke when he was taken to the police station and if so did the torch have Shane’s fingerprints on it?

And why did Shane keep a torch in his bedroom? Didn’t Corinne claim Luke went up the stairs to get his brothers torch or he came down with it or something?

What did Shane say about the torch in his police witness statement ?

[Nicholas]

If the police really thought Luke was a suspect in the early morning hours of the 1st of July 2003, wouldn’t they have seized the torch and carried out forensic tests on it?

What date was Luke/Shane’s torch seized and what were the forensic test results of the torch?

[Nicholas]

If the police really thought Luke was a suspect in the early morning hours of the 1st of July 2003, wouldn’t they have seized the torch and carried out forensic tests on it?

What date was Luke/Shane’s torch seized and what were the forensic test results of the torch?

Didn’t the money making scam of a TV show claim the torch was extra bright or something ?

What was the make and model of the torch ?