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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Is this another example of a potentially crucial error by the VRD handler?
« Reply #330 on: August 12, 2018, 09:59:25 AM »
It seems that it's not enough to be told that the alerts aren't evidence. They seem to think it's important to go a step further and try to prove that the alerts weren't 'real' alerts anyway.

What do you think about the alert to cuddle cat.... Why should grime and the dogs be beyond criticism.... You don't really make, any sense imo

Offline G-Unit

Re: Is this another example of a potentially crucial error by the VRD handler?
« Reply #331 on: August 12, 2018, 10:09:12 AM »
You already know the, answer to that... But I see nothing wrong with posters trying to establish the truth... Do you

It could be said you have pored over the files trying to discredit the McCanns

I don't see how a poster's opinion of where a cadaver dog's nose is when it alerts will help to establish the truth.
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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Is this another example of a potentially crucial error by the VRD handler?
« Reply #332 on: August 12, 2018, 10:10:30 AM »
It seems that it's not enough to be told that the alerts aren't evidence. They seem to think it's important to go a step further and try to prove that the alerts weren't 'real' alerts anyway.
Rather than attack the poster and their motives why not actually address the rather valid points she has made regarding the alert to the clothes?
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Is this another example of a potentially crucial error by the VRD handler?
« Reply #333 on: August 12, 2018, 10:15:24 AM »
I don't see how a poster's opinion of where a cadaver dog's nose is when it alerts will help to establish the truth.

Assessing the validity  of the alerts will help establish  the, truth... You seem oversensitive to any criticism  of grime or the, alerts..... And I'm sure I know, why

Offline jassi

Re: Is this another example of a potentially crucial error by the VRD handler?
« Reply #334 on: August 12, 2018, 10:18:12 AM »
Rather than attack the poster and their motives why not actually address the rather valid points she has made regarding the alert to the clothes?

Validity is a matter of opinion, seemingly yours.
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Offline carlymichelle

Re: Is this another example of a potentially crucial error by the VRD handler?
« Reply #335 on: August 12, 2018, 10:23:43 AM »
Validity is a matter of opinion, seemingly yours.

mcann supporters have always been afraid of the dogs   it makes  you  wonder why doesnt  it?? just because  dogs cant talk doesnt  mean they dont understand  what they are trained to  do
« Last Edit: August 12, 2018, 10:28:12 AM by carlymichelle »

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Is this another example of a potentially crucial error by the VRD handler?
« Reply #336 on: August 12, 2018, 10:26:22 AM »
mcann supporters have always been afraid of the dogs   it makes  you  wonde r why doesnt  it?? just because  dogs cant talk doesnt  mean they dont understand  what they are trained to  do

What rubbish ...some sceptics misguidedly think this, when the reality is that supporters better understand that the, alerts, which are basically meaningless
« Last Edit: August 12, 2018, 10:31:59 AM by Davel »

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Is this another example of a potentially crucial error by the VRD handler?
« Reply #337 on: August 12, 2018, 10:46:08 AM »
What rubbish ...some sceptics misguidedly think this, when the reality is that supporters better understand that the, alerts, which are basically meaningless
Not meaningless. IMO
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Is this another example of a potentially crucial error by the VRD handler?
« Reply #338 on: August 12, 2018, 10:49:08 AM »
Not meaningless. IMO

Then tell me what they mean to you

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Is this another example of a potentially crucial error by the VRD handler?
« Reply #339 on: August 12, 2018, 11:00:32 AM »
Then tell me what they mean to you
They are clues that must fit into the final scenario (with a fair degree of certainty).
They are a form of intelligence.

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synonyms:   information gathering, surveillance, observation, reconnaissance, spying, espionage, undercover work, infiltration, ELINT, cyberespionage, humint; informalrecon
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Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: Is this another example of a potentially crucial error by the VRD handler?
« Reply #340 on: August 12, 2018, 11:03:35 AM »
What rubbish ...some sceptics misguidedly think this, when the reality is that supporters better understand that the, alerts, which are basically meaningless
You forgot the IYO.
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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Is this another example of a potentially crucial error by the VRD handler?
« Reply #341 on: August 12, 2018, 11:05:16 AM »
Validity is a matter of opinion, seemingly yours.
Every time G-Unit posts we are remind to Accept Nothing, Believe No-One, and Confirm Everything.  Why should the dog handler and his alerts be exempt from such scrutiny, and if questions are raised, then their validity discussed, not brushed over in ad hom attacks?
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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Is this another example of a potentially crucial error by the VRD handler?
« Reply #342 on: August 12, 2018, 11:06:28 AM »
mcann supporters have always been afraid of the dogs   it makes  you  wonder why doesnt  it?? just because  dogs cant talk doesnt  mean they dont understand  what they are trained to  do
You forgot the IYO (just pointing this out as SIL seems to have forgotten to do so).
"Surely the fact that their accounts were different reinforces their veracity rather than diminishes it? If they had colluded in protecting ........ surely all of their accounts would be the same?" - Faithlilly

Offline Sunny

Re: Is this another example of a potentially crucial error by the VRD handler?
« Reply #343 on: August 12, 2018, 11:19:30 AM »
You forgot the IYO (just pointing this out as SIL seems to have forgotten to do so).

To be honest I don't think carlymichelle's post needed an IMO, since I became interested in the case and have looked at forums, twitter etc the dogs seem to be the main point discussed by the supporters, that and of course Goncalo Amaral and the sceptics themselves. All IMO but based on my views of forums etc.
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Offline Sunny

Re: Is this another example of a potentially crucial error by the VRD handler?
« Reply #344 on: August 12, 2018, 11:28:06 AM »
What rubbish ...some sceptics misguidedly think this, when the reality is that supporters better understand that the, alerts, which are basically meaningless

You forgot IMO Davel.
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