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Offline slartibartfast

Re: Is this another example of a potentially crucial error by the VRD handler?
« Reply #555 on: August 15, 2018, 05:54:55 PM »
I don't see VS claiming his post represents every sceptic on here... Perhaps you misread it

So what do you understand by...

“when basically that is the default position of every McCann sceptic“
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline G-Unit

Re: Is this another example of a potentially crucial error by the VRD handler?
« Reply #556 on: August 15, 2018, 06:20:42 PM »
The view that the McCanns faked an abduction is very prevalent on this forum, even if only by inference (direct accusation not being permitted of course).  If you quote any of the Tapas' group evidence to support the abduction theory it is declaimed as not independent an therefore not reliable, the clear implication being that subterfuge or fakery is involved, yet this accusation largely passes by without censure.  Therefore I was surprised to read that accusing someone else of faking evidence is "a disgrace", when basically that is the default position of every McCann sceptic re: the McCanns themselves.

As you observed, direct accusations are not permitted on the forum, yet I have seen quite a few of them directed at Martin Grime.


 
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Is this another example of a potentially crucial error by the VRD handler?
« Reply #557 on: August 15, 2018, 06:27:19 PM »
And the PJ;

I now say without doubt the PJ faked alerts
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=9940.msg479931#msg479931
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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Is this another example of a potentially crucial error by the VRD handler?
« Reply #558 on: August 15, 2018, 06:27:43 PM »
So what do you understand by...

“when basically that is the default position of every McCann sceptic“

It would be interesting to learn the definition of "every" that the poster relies.
Is that every every or selective every........ *%87
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Is this another example of a potentially crucial error by the VRD handler?
« Reply #559 on: August 15, 2018, 06:39:07 PM »
So what do you understand by...

“when basically that is the default position of every McCann sceptic“

Anyone who is sceptical  of the McCann's does not believe  them and therefore thinks they may be faking the evidence

Offline G-Unit

Re: Is this another example of a potentially crucial error by the VRD handler?
« Reply #560 on: August 15, 2018, 06:46:58 PM »
Anyone who is sceptical  of the McCann's does not believe  them and therefore thinks they may be faking the evidence

What evidence?
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Is this another example of a potentially crucial error by the VRD handler?
« Reply #561 on: August 15, 2018, 06:56:35 PM »
What evidence?

Their statements are evidence

Offline G-Unit

Re: Is this another example of a potentially crucial error by the VRD handler?
« Reply #562 on: August 15, 2018, 07:11:58 PM »
Their statements are evidence

Really? I thought you'd binned them along with the dog alerts; 'twice translated and non verbatim'.
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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Is this another example of a potentially crucial error by the VRD handler?
« Reply #563 on: August 15, 2018, 07:24:10 PM »
You don’t know the default position of every McCann Sceptic. Pretending you do and arguing against that position is a strawman argument.
It stands to reason that if you are sceptical of the McCanns' version of events you are also accusing them of faking evidence, now tell me where I am wrong there...?
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Offline slartibartfast

Re: Is this another example of a potentially crucial error by the VRD handler?
« Reply #564 on: August 15, 2018, 07:37:26 PM »
It stands to reason that if you are sceptical of the McCanns' version of events you are also accusing them of faking evidence, now tell me where I am wrong there...?

Again, that doesn’t follow for every sceptic.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Is this another example of a potentially crucial error by the VRD handler?
« Reply #565 on: August 15, 2018, 07:41:09 PM »
I don't see VS claiming his post represents every sceptic on here... Perhaps you misread it
VS did write "Therefore I was surprised to read that accusing someone else of faking evidence is "a disgrace", when basically that is the default position of every McCann sceptic re: the McCanns themselves."

if VS had said "Therefore I was surprised to read that accusing someone else of faking evidence is "a disgrace", when basically that is the default position of many McCann sceptics re: the McCanns themselves."  VS might have been OK.    "Strawman" is not a term I use myself.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Is this another example of a potentially crucial error by the VRD handler?
« Reply #566 on: August 15, 2018, 07:41:37 PM »
Really? I thought you'd binned them along with the dog alerts; 'twice translated and non verbatim'.

Then you thought wrong

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Is this another example of a potentially crucial error by the VRD handler?
« Reply #567 on: August 15, 2018, 07:42:28 PM »
As you observed, direct accusations are not permitted on the forum, yet I have seen quite a few of them directed at Martin Grime.
Cite please.
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Offline slartibartfast

Re: Is this another example of a potentially crucial error by the VRD handler?
« Reply #568 on: August 15, 2018, 07:44:22 PM »
Cite please.

They have been deleted because they were libellous.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Is this another example of a potentially crucial error by the VRD handler?
« Reply #569 on: August 15, 2018, 07:46:10 PM »
They have been deleted because they were libellous.

Could you then show me what you consider as examples of libellous statements against Grime please?
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