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Other High Profile Cases and Persons of Interest => Oscar Pistorius and the killing of girlfriend Reeva Steenkamp. => Topic started by: John on June 22, 2016, 02:59:14 PM

Title: Oscar Pistorius sentencing deferred until 6th July 2016.
Post by: John on June 22, 2016, 02:59:14 PM: Oscar Pistorius to be sentenced for murder on July 6

The date for Oscar Pistorius' sentencing for the murder of former girlfriend Reeva Steenkamp has been set for July 6.

Earlier, his defence barrister asked the Paralympian to remove his prosthetic legs in the courtroom during his sentencing hearing in Pretoria.

Barry Roux told the court the man they were looking at, standing on his stumps, was the man who was scared for his life at 3am, and thought an intruder was in his home.

The double-amputee's manslaughter conviction was overturned last year by an appeals court, which convicted Pistorius of the more serious charge of murder following the death of his girlfriend Reeva Steenkamp in 2013.

(http://a57.foxnews.com/images.foxnews.com/content/fox-news/world/2016/06/15/pistorius-walks-on-stumps-in-dramatic-court-moment/_jcr_content/article-text/article-par-2/images/image.img.jpg/880/558/1465998631307.jpg?ve=1&tl=1)

http://www.itv.com/news/story/2016-06-15/oscar-pistorius-to-be-sentenced-for-murder-on-july-6/

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Title: Re: Oscar Pistorius sentencing deferred until 6th July 2016.
Post by: mercury on June 24, 2016, 09:53:34 PM: There is a new Telly interview with Mark Williams-Thomas and Oscar Pistorius on ITV tonight. Its nearly finished now but you can see it on +1 or itv catch up

Also online at itvhub, but you need to sign up

My personal opinion: he has no defence and was acting/lying, sometimes you can just tell
I wanted to believe him though

If you #oscarpistorius you will see a lot of good points made
Title: Re: Oscar Pistorius sentencing deferred until 6th July 2016.
Post by: puglove on June 26, 2016, 12:45:17 AM: Quote from: mercury on June 24, 2016, 09:53:34 PM
There is a new Telly interview with Mark Williams-Thomas and Oscar Pistorius on ITV tonight. Its nearly finished now but you can see it on +1 or itv catch up

Also online at itvhub, but you need to sign up

My personal opinion: he has no defence and was acting/lying, sometimes you can just tell
I wanted to believe him though

If you #oscarpistorius you will see a lot of good points made

I watched it and, yes, he was lying. He's a loathsome, self-serving brat. He fake-blubbed through it, and only managed to squeeze out one single tear. At one point, he rubbed his hands over his face so that his stringy spit looked like tears. He's shitting himself about going back to prison. He meant to kill Reeva. Even if some misguided judge finds otherwise, he meant to kill someone. He shot to kill. I can't believe how transparent he was.
Title: Re: Oscar Pistorius sentencing deferred until 6th July 2016.
Post by: mercury on June 26, 2016, 11:29:20 PM: He wasnt innocent of killing someone thats why he was found guilty first of manslaughter/culpable homicide

The prosecution managed to convince the supreme court his defence was not convincing and it was murder

If no one attacks or threatens you you cant just shoot them dead

He reckons hes done time and should just do community service

He reckons he didnt know it was her, there is no proof of that and more importantly he didnt convince the court for various reasons, and reading a few forums and papers has not convnced the majority of people either
I dont think this is a miscarriage of justice but if it is no doubt he will begin appeals whilst incarcerated or could confess and get sentence reduced
Title: Re: Oscar Pistorius sentencing deferred until 6th July 2016.
Post by: John on June 29, 2016, 02:59:14 AM: Quote from: mercury on June 26, 2016, 11:29:20 PM
He wasnt innocent of killing someone thats why he was found guilty first of manslaughter/culpable homicide

The prosecution managed to convince the supreme court his defence was not convincing and it was murder

If no one attacks or threatens you you cant just shoot them dead

He reckons hes done time and should just do community service

He reckons he didnt know it was her, there is no proof of that and more importantly he didnt convince the court for various reasons, and reading a few forums and papers has not convnced the majority of people either
I dont think this is a miscarriage of justice but if it is no doubt he will begin appeals whilst incarcerated or could confess and get sentence reduced

The lady Judge has messed up already in this case so surely she won't be taken in by Pistorius a second time. Hopefully he gets 15 years for what he did. Anything less will be a miscarriage for sure.

As for the interviews with ITV, they should not have be allowed. Why a convicted murderer is allowed bail is beyond me, let alone being allowed to give TV interviews. The SA system is crazy!
Title: Re: Oscar Pistorius sentencing deferred until 6th July 2016.
Post by: John on July 05, 2016, 11:16:46 PM: A reminder for all who have been following this case that Oscar Pistorius will be sentenced tomorrow.
Title: Re: Oscar Pistorius sentencing deferred until 6th July 2016.
Post by: mercury on July 06, 2016, 12:34:43 AM: Dont wanna watch
Its horrible someone getting imprisoned
Its obvious he lied
In that latest documentary he was bringing stuff up(small details) that shouldnt matter

Never believed him but theres that question
Could he be innocent
problem for him = NO witnesses
And dodgy testimony
and fact his own lawyers failed
Title: Re: Oscar Pistorius sentencing deferred until 6th July 2016.
Post by: John on July 06, 2016, 02:03:31 AM: Quote from: mercury on July 06, 2016, 12:34:43 AM
Dont wanna watch
Its horrible someone getting imprisoned
Its obvious he lied
In that latest documentary he was bringing stuff up(small details) that shouldnt matter

Never believed him but theres that question
Could he be innocent
problem for him = NO witnesses
And dodgy testimony
and fact his own lawyers failed

The murder conviction is sound in my opinion regardless of who the victim was. For the sake of argument, even if we believe him for a moment that he thought the person in the toilet was an intruder he did not have the right to shoot them to death.

His story is a bit like the toilet door, full of holes.
Title: Re: Oscar Pistorius sentencing deferred until 6th July 2016.
Post by: John on July 06, 2016, 10:02:25 AM: Oscar Pistorius sentenced to 6 years in jail for the murder of Reeva Steenkamp!

Yes, that right, Masipa has done it again and given murderer Pistorius a sentence much lower than that of the15 years minimum set down by South African Law. It seems life is extremely cheap in SA and especially so if you are a white athlete.

That sentence is an insult to victim Reeva Steenkamp and to justice. Pistorius could now serve as little as two years in prison for the murder of his former girlfriend.

Judge Masipa told the Court that Pistorius has lost much and had shown great remorse!

(http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/live-experience/cps/512/cpsprodpb/vivo/live/images/2016/7/6/c4fe0f9b-8df1-438d-bce1-7e5c9f5be2c9.jpg)

Oscar Pistorius hugs his sister...

(http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/live-experience/cps/512/cpsprodpb/vivo/live/images/2016/7/6/9a912f71-3a2a-4a98-9228-ff6698a04d39.jpg)

Before being taken down to the cells.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-36719561
Title: Re: Oscar Pistorius sentencing deferred until 6th July 2016.
Post by: stephen25000 on July 06, 2016, 10:07:39 AM: Quote from: John on July 06, 2016, 10:02:25 AM
Oscar Pistorius sentenced to 6 years in jail for the murder of Reeve Steenkamp!

Yes, that right, Masipa has done it again and given murderer Pistorius a sentence much lower than that of 15 years minimum set down by South African Law.

I hope the prosecution appeal for a higher sentence.

Masipa seems to have a thing for Pistorius.

What doesn't she get about him deliberately taking a life.

Even now, he may only serve 3 years.
Title: Re: Oscar Pistorius sentencing deferred until 6th July 2016.
Post by: Wonderfulspam on July 06, 2016, 10:13:24 AM: Masipa said Oscar was remorseful?!

What utter horse shit.

He still claims he thought she was an intruder.

If he was truly remorseful he'd admit he killed her deliberately, like the rest of the world know he did.
Title: Re: Oscar Pistorius sentencing deferred until 6th July 2016.
Post by: John on July 06, 2016, 10:48:32 AM: Quote from: Wonderfulspam on July 06, 2016, 10:13:24 AM
Masipa said Oscar was remorseful?!

What utter horse shit.

He still claims he thought she was an intruder.

If he was truly remorseful he'd admit he killed her deliberately, like the rest of the world know he did.

Even it had been an intruder, he had a lethal weapon in his possession, he shot to kill.
Title: Re: Oscar Pistorius sentencing deferred until 6th July 2016.
Post by: Angelo222 on July 06, 2016, 11:20:31 AM: Quote from: John on July 06, 2016, 10:02:25 AM
Oscar Pistorius sentenced to 6 years in jail for the murder of Reeva Steenkamp!

Yes, that right, Masipa has done it again and given murderer Pistorius a sentence much lower than that of the15 years minimum set down by South African Law. It seems life is extremely cheap in SA and especially so if you are a white athlete.

That sentence is an insult to victim Reeva Steenkamp and to justice. Pistorius could now serve as little as two years in prison for the murder of his former girlfriend.

Judge Masipa told the Court that Pistorius has lost much and had shown great remorse!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-36719561

This case has gone from bad to worse, it has rendered the South African justice system a laughing stock. Masipa is unfit to exercise her commission as a judge in my opinion. I hope the prosecution appeal her decision yet again and she is sacked.
Title: Re: Oscar Pistorius sentencing deferred until 6th July 2016.
Post by: stephen25000 on July 06, 2016, 07:47:05 PM: Quote from: Angelo222 on July 06, 2016, 11:20:31 AM
This case has gone from bad to worse, it has rendered the South African justice system a laughing stock. Masipa is unfit to exercise her commission as a judge in my opinion. I hope the prosecution appeal her decision yet again and she is sacked.

I totally agree with you on this.

The only person Pistorius feels remorse for, is himself.

The judge was worse than useless.
Title: Re: Oscar Pistorius sentencing deferred until 6th July 2016.
Post by: John on July 06, 2016, 08:36:07 PM: I don't think many onlookers would disagree with this...

A fair comment, "Human rights barrister Adam Wagner wrote on Twitter: "Why has Oscar Pistorius been given six years for murder if he got five for culpable homicide?""

Legal experts slam Oscar Pistorius sentence as an 'insult to women' as he's jailed for just six years

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/legal-experts-slam-oscar-pistorius-8359721
Title: Re: Oscar Pistorius sentencing deferred until 6th July 2016.
Post by: John on July 06, 2016, 09:17:09 PM: Profile: Oscar Pistorius' sister sets up home in London

(http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=113802&d=1398125817)

Convicted murderer Oscar Pistorius and sister Aimée.

Aimée Pistorius reportedly departed South Africa because of stress according to Oscar Pistorius' psychologist. The Pretoria High Court previously heard that Aimee‚ to whom he is exceedingly close‚ left South Africa for Britain to get away from the stress and publicity following his marathon trial for the murder of his girlfriend Reeva Steenkamp.

Aimee Joy Pistorius (26) is the youngest child and only daughter of Henke and his wife Sheila Pistorius, she was born in Johannesburg, Gauteng in South Africa. She has two older brothers, Carl Pistorius and Oscar Pistorius. Her mother Sheila was just 45 when she passed away. She graduated in 2007 from the Pretoria High School for Girls. In 2010 she graduated from the University of Pretoria and took up a post working as a assistant lecturer at her alma mater.

Aimée was employed by Investec in South Africa at the time of the murder on St Valentine's Day 2013 but this year transferred to the London office as a business analyst. She announced her move to the UK on May 6‚ when she tweeted a photo stating, “And so the adventure begins”‚ alongside one word‚ “London”.
Title: Re: Oscar Pistorius sentencing deferred until 6th July 2016.
Post by: mercury on July 06, 2016, 10:26:57 PM: The law is an ass sometimes

5 years (only 10 months served inside) for culpable homcide but 6 for murder? Will be out again before you can say Jack Robinson.

Endangered species poachers, and cattle thieves get decades in prison sentences and thieves get 15 years in SA
But a man who the courts decided murdered his girlfriend gets 6...
Masipa says a lengthy prison sentence doesnt serve justice, well dear, try applyng that philosophy evenly then

Sentences should be just and I dont believe the "mitigating circumstances" quite cut the mustard.

(How do you cut mustard btw?)

He is not a very good actor is he? You could see his grin when being led away, was a done deal beforehand.
I hope Nel objects, just for the record at least.

Read opinions on #oscarpistorius

Lastly I dont believe for a second that Reevas parents thought it was "fair"

Next move, poetic justice in the future. No man can escape that.
Title: Re: Oscar Pistorius sentencing deferred until 6th July 2016.
Post by: mercury on July 06, 2016, 11:30:59 PM: Quote from: John on July 06, 2016, 09:17:09 PM
Profile: Oscar Pistorius' sister sets up home in London

(http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=113802&d=1398125817)

Convicted murderer Oscar Pistorius and sister Aimée.

Aimée Pistorius reportedly departed South Africa because of stress according to Oscar Pistorius' psychologist. The Pretoria High Court previously heard that Aimee‚ to whom he is exceedingly close‚ left South Africa for Britain to get away from the stress and publicity following his marathon trial for the murder of his girlfriend Reeva Steenkamp.

Aimee Joy Pistorius (26) is the youngest child and only daughter of Henke and his wife Sheila Pistorius, she was born in Johannesburg, Gauteng in South Africa. She has two older brothers, Carl Pistorius and Oscar Pistorius. Her mother Sheila was just 45 when she passed away. She graduated in 2007 from the Pretoria High School for Girls. In 2010 she graduated from the University of Pretoria and took up a post working as a assistant lecturer at her alma mater.

Aimée was employed by Investec in South Africa at the time of the murder on St Valentine's Day 2013 but this year transferred to the London office as a business analyst. She announced her move to the UK on May 6‚ when she tweeted a photo stating, “And so the adventure begins”‚ alongside one word‚ “London”.
Shes not had her brains blown out and not being eaten by worms so free to do whatever
Title: Re: Oscar Pistorius sentencing deferred until 6th July 2016.
Post by: John on July 07, 2016, 02:59:56 PM: The Prosecution have 14 days in which to appeal the lenient sentence since Judge Masipa broke established sentencing guidelines. In addition, handing down a 6 year sentence for murder could set a dangerous precedent in South Africa.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1394991/legal-expert-claims-oscar-pistorius-could-be-released-on-house-arrest-in-just-one-year-after-murdering-girlfriend-reeva-steenkamp/
Title: Re: Oscar Pistorius sentencing deferred until 6th July 2016.
Post by: mercury on July 07, 2016, 11:08:32 PM: Precedent for who? Ive read the cliches about rich famous and white or just rich and famous and them always getting a lessrer sentence or not beng found gulty at all and unfortunately it seems to be being borne out

I dont for a second think SA judges will start lessening sentences for murder when they hand out sentences of over a decade and more for just theft (referringto black people mainly of course)

The pitiful thing about this sentence apart from its length is that OP will be out within a year albeit under house arrest, thats just under 2 years suffering for him for taking someones life

Even in the UK you can do more time for robbery and lesser crimes

Pathetic
Title: Re: Oscar Pistorius sentencing deferred until 6th July 2016.
Post by: John on July 22, 2016, 10:27:49 PM: I hate to say it but I was right again, the South African prosecutor is to appeal the sentence handed down to killer Pistorius. Halleujah!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-36855498