1485
'When did you see Kate and Gerald on Thursday, so when was the first time that you saw Kate and Gerry on the Thursday''
Reply
'It would have been sort of late morning when we'd got back from our sailing and we got changed, got some warm things on and we were just sat on the sun loungers by the pool, erm, just having a drink and Kate and Gerry appeared, we offered them a drink, I think they turned down, they either, they'd just had a tennis lesson or had a knock, erm. In fact I think, was it Gerry had had a lesson then and was going into length degree to Kate about his style of tennis and I was joking that Kate was actually listening to this and finding it incredibly boring cos it's the sort of thing, you know, they, as a couple, they did have amazing sort of patience with each other than (inaudible), I wouldn't have that with David talking to me (inaudible), so there was that joke, so yeah I think it was Gerry just had a tennis lesson and Kate might have been having a knock up, but they were in their tennis gear'.
00.43.11
1485
'You say they turned up at your apartment''
Reply
'No, no this was down by the, this was down on the sun loungers outside the, where the pool'.
1485
'Oh right, you were downstairs'.
Reply
'And it was just about time to go and pick up the kids, so we sort of sat about ten minutes and then, so Kate and I wandered off down to the, erm, Reception to get the kids, erm, Scarlet, Madeleine and Gerry and Dave went and got, went to the toddler club to get the twins and Lily'.
1485
'Anything different about them at all''
Reply
'Nothing, again, you know, just having a good time, relaxed'.
1485
'Nothing different. Think I've asked you this as well, when you arrived at the Tapas on the third of May'.
Reply
'Umm'.
1485
'Who was already there''
Reply
'Everybody, bar Matt, erm, so, erm, yeah, going round the table'.
1485
'Yes so'.
Reply
'Yeah so, erm, Kate, Gerry, erm, Rachael and then Jane and Russell'.
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1485
'Is everybody sitting down''
Reply
'Yeah'.
1485
'What were Kate and Gerry doing when you arrived''
Reply
'Just sat at the table and having a drink, conversing with whoever was there'.
1485
'So were they talking to each other, or were they talking to somebody separate''
Reply
'Would be talking to somebody separate, I mean they weren't sort of sat together, they were sort of, they were all spread out'.
1485
'Okay'.
Reply
'Erm, but, yeah, they were just, you know, as every evening, everyone's just chatting and, you know, sometimes you'd be in pairs, someone's chatting to the groups, you know, as you do, nothing different about that night to, to any other'.
1485
'Did they have a drink on the table''
Reply
'I think by the time we arrived, there was wine on the table, cos that's generally what the waiters brought as soon as you arrived anyway, cos you, with your meal got a bottle of wine per couple or something like that free with your meal, so that was (inaudible) on, so I think yeah that was already there but there was no food'.
1485
'So it was wine they were drinking and not any cocktails or anything like that''
Reply
'No I can't remember anything else amiss, certainly no cocktails, erm, some, some people drank beer or asked for a beer on certain nights but I couldn't tell you whether that night whether anyone had beer or who had wine but I say the wine generally had, we'd had a glass of wine, erm, with the meal every evening so would have been there'.
1485
'Yes. Did you talk to Gerry''
Reply
'Yeah we all, we all talking together, I couldn't, I couldn't tell you specifically about what but he, I'm pretty sure he was sat, you know, one side, me and Kate on the other and yeah we all, we all chatted, I can't remember specifically what we'd have talked to Gerry about that night though'.
1485
'Cos that's the time that Kate mentioned about Madeleine wasn't it''
Reply
'Umm'.
1485
'So could you not remember anything that Gerry had said''
Reply
'Gerry didn't really join, when he was talking to someone else and this was conversation just between, erm, me and Kate, although I know Jane and Rachael joined in a bit, they were sitting sort of the other side of Kate, so it was sort of a conversation amongst the girls really'.
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