Cressida Dick says enquiry will continue until it has reached its conclusion.

[barrier]

so the armchair detectives become armchair judges...we rely on the police to keep us safe...thats exactly what the team were involved in...if you want to hang them when they make a misatke...as everyone makes a mistake ...then we will have no one to keep us safe

Snr Amaral allegedly made a mistake which he's forgiven for then,tis the season of goodwill after all.

Joyeux Noel.

[barrier]

Holiday time,joyeux noel.

[Mr Gray]

Ah,so we only forgive those who are incompetent in our country, xenophobia rears its head again.

What would you think if dick had written a book saying as far as she was concerned...de menezes was a potential suicide bomber and deserved to die......no doubt you would support her freedom of speech

[Erngath]

Snr Amaral allegedly made a mistake which he's forgiven for then,tis the season of goodwill after all.

Joyeux Noel.

Madeleine's parents also made a mistake.
Perhaps time for some to forgive,  'tis the season of goodwill after all
Christmas blessings to all.

[Eleanor]

Im asking because I think the PJ investigation was absolute disgrace...but it seems im not allowed to say so....so if barrier is allowed to refer to the Home office as morons we need to have some parity on the forum...obviously there isnt any......fair enough...

I haven't censored your comment.  However, I am not the only Moderator.

[Eleanor]

She ordered the 'hard stop', which sanctioned shooting the suspect.

I presume that you have proof of that statement.

[John]

Im asking because I think the PJ investigation was absolute disgrace...but it seems im not allowed to say so....so if barrier is allowed to refer to the Home office as morons we need to have some parity on the forum...obviously there isnt any......fair enough...

You are entitled to your opinion Dave but I think you place the blame for the failed initial investigation with the wrong people.

[Mr Gray]

You are entitled to your opinion Dave but I think you place the blame for the failed initial investigation with the wrong people.

And I think you do... Almeida who wrote the interim report said the main evidence against the mccanns was the dog alerts... Which are not evidence... Yet the PJ rated then as proven facts... They also believed forensics placed maddies body in the hire car... Which we know they didn't... So it's not opinion it's fact... The PJ were convinced of the mccanns involvement based in their inability to understand the evidence... It's all in amarals book and video... IMO... They hadn't got a clue

[Eleanor]

You are entitled to your opinion Dave but I think you place the blame for the failed initial investigation with the wrong people.

I don't think so.  Who was supposedly In Charge of the Initial Investigation?  It was a complete cock up and no where near half professional.

My thoughts on Amaral are unprintable.

[Mr Gray]

You are entitled to your opinion Dave but I think you place the blame for the failed initial investigation with the wrong people.

Amaral produced his evidence in his documentary and claimed it proved Maddie died in the apartment... He was wrong.. It didn't... What does that say for the initial investigation... Bothe Portuguese and SY are not following  amarals theories... It's not hard to see why... The man was a complete...

I'm confident the case will go to the ECHR and we will see what an independent  court thinks of amarals claims... No wonder he's keeping his mouth shut now

[Eleanor]

Dear John,  You gob smack me sometimes.  You castigate me for my occasional outbursts, and then you say something like that.

[Venturi Swirl]

You are entitled to your opinion Dave but I think you place the blame for the failed initial investigation with the wrong people.

With whom do you place the blame and why?

[John]

Amaral produced his evidence in his documentary and claimed it proved Maddie died in the apartment... He was wrong.. It didn't... What does that say for the initial investigation... Bothe Portuguese and SY are not following  amarals theories... It's not hard to see why... The man was a complete...

I'm confident the case will go to the ECHR and we will see what an independent  court thinks of amarals claims... No wonder he's keeping his mouth shut now

Amaral was the coordinator of the investigation so to condemn the entire investigation on the basis of his theories implies a general prejudice towards the Portuguese police. Many detectives both Portuguese and English were involved in the initial investigation and seemingly arrived at the same conclusion eventually. Unfortunately for them though, political interference became an overriding factor, something which to this day has never been satisfactorily explained.

[Mr Gray]

Amaral was the coordinator of the investigation so to condemn the entire investigation on the basis of his theories implies a general prejudice towards the Portuguese police. Many detectives both Portuguese and English were involved in the initial investigation and seemingly arrived at the same conclusion eventually.

Amaral claims his theory was shared by the whole team.. The PJ files state the, alert to cadaver was, a proven fact.. It isn't.. There is no prejudice from me... Amaral claimed the forensics placed maddues cadaver in the hire car... They didn't... In fact all the evidence used to make the mccans arguidos was not confirmed... I have never seen any confirmation that the UK police believed amarals theory.. In fact it seems the FSS were angry with the PJ for misrepresenting their findings... On that basis I think it's fair to say the initial investigation wad an almighty Cock up...
The new investigation in Portugal has said there is NO EVIDENCE  against the mccanbs abd they are NOT SUSPECTS.. In fact according  to you they are investigating woke and wandered... Hardly an endorsement fir amaral

[Mr Gray]

Amaral was the coordinator of the investigation so to condemn the entire investigation on the basis of his theories implies a general prejudice towards the Portuguese police. Many detectives both Portuguese and English were involved in the initial investigation and seemingly arrived at the same conclusion eventually. Unfortunately for them though, political interference became an overriding factor, something which to this day has never been satisfactorily explained.

Amaral blamed political interference to cover up his own shortcomings... I dint see how any political interference affected the investigation... The problem for the investigation wasn't political interference but the fact they had no evidence to support their claims.... No evidence because the mccanns were innocent