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Offline Nicholas

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #525 on: April 27, 2019, 08:05:12 PM »
Troll exposure blog
“However, this manipulation of families and stories for his own benefit raises some other questions too: like have other stories been manipulated, anonymous sources created on a hush-hush basis for the promise of monies in return.
https://trollexposure.wordpress.com/2019/04/27/auctorem-inquisitor/

Michelle Diskin Bates states:
“It was quite an eye-opener when I became aware of the extent of the symbiotic relationship between the police and the media. However, the releasing of information to the media in the case against Barry clearly emphasised the practice.

Yet Barry George and his sister Michelle Diskin Bates have been in the same such mutually beneficial relationships.

And commended such:
“A great great teaming. Miscarriage of justice victims need strong support and experienced, structured assistance to fight their convictions. Good luck with the new venture.
Michelle
(Barry George’s sister)

https://insidetime.org/are-you-a-victim-of-a-genuine-miscarriage-of-justice/

“As a former Detective and with a high profile Mark receives almost daily contact from people asking for help . Sadly Mark is just not able to take on every case, but will take on as many case as he can . He is normally working on 6 or more serious cases at any one time.
Mark has decided alongside his TV investigations to turn some of his these into Podcasts - his fist podcast will be released in 2019.
Recent investigations:
Mark and lawyer David Wells were commissioned by the family of 18 year old Ivana Smit to undertake an investigation into her suspicious death in Kuala Lumpur in 2018.
Mark recently teamed up with Peter Faulding from Specialist Group International using the latest in search technology to re-investigate three unsolved murders : Nicola Payne aged 18 years who was last seen on the 14th December 1991, Sarah Benford aged 14 who was last seen on the 6th April 2000 and lee Boxall aged 15 years who was last seen on the 10th September 1998.
Mark has previously visited Srinagar, Kashmir a number of times to investigate the murder of Sarah Grove. On the 6th April 2013 Sarah viciously attacked in the bedroom of her house boat and stabbed over 40 times by her killer . My investigation uncovered new evidence and got an exclusive interview with the main suspect. This case remains ongoing with very slow progress through the Indian criminal justice system, the main suspect Richard De Wit is still on trial for her murder.
If you think Mark can help you with an unsolved case or a missing person please get in touch.
Mark also runs a Specialists Investigations company - working for private clients and companies on very sensitive investigations. http://www.williams-thomas.co.uk/thismorning

March 2018
“The story had it all: sex, drugs and a stunning teenage model who plunged, naked, 14 floors to her death from the home of an American cryptocurrency tycoon and his glamorous wife in the booming Malaysian capital, Kuala Lumpur. As news of the violent end of Ivana Smit, 18, flashed around the world, it grew in the telling, spawning claims the Dutch citizen had been murdered, and that her killers were being protected by corrupt police.

Adding fuel to the fire was a British former policeman and TV celebrity, Mark Williams-Thomas, who made the 2012 TV documentary which exposed the crimes of Jimmy Savile. Working with UK lawyer David Wells, he travelled to KL and compiled – at a cost of £8,000 – an unofficial report for Ivana’s family. Last week Wells issued a press release, headlined: ‘Model’s fatal fall was no accident, conclude St Albans solicitor and private investigator duo.’ They say they have ‘no doubt’ that in Britain, Ivana’s death would be treated as homicide.

But was it? Absent from every account so far of Ivana’s death on December 7 is a single word from the last people who saw her alive, and from whose 20th floor balcony she plunged: Alex Johnson, 44, and his Kazakh wife, Luna, 31. Last week, they gave their first interview to The Mail on Sunday
.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5565257/Riddle-death-plunge-model.html


“Model's fatal fall was no accident conclude St Albans solicitor and private investigator duo | Wells Burcombe LLP
https://www.wellsburcombe.co.uk › mod...
29 Mar 2018 · St Albans crime lawyer, David Wells has been working with award-winning crime investigator, Mark Williams-Thomas, in Kuala Lumpur to uncover the truth surrounding the death of 18-year-old model ...
« Last Edit: April 27, 2019, 08:14:19 PM by Nicholas »
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #526 on: April 27, 2019, 08:21:33 PM »

Who manipulated who?


Michelle Diskin Bates states:
“The hacking into the text messages on Millie Dowler’s mobile phone seems to have led to the public exposure of this practice. It was highly insensitive, and pointed to the belief that Millie may actually still be alive for some time after she had been murdered. It was the highlighting of disgusting behaviour like this which eventually led to the closing of one particularly salacious Sunday newspaper, The News of the World, part of the Rupert Murdoch empire. Those of us who had suffered at the printing press of this publication’s deceits breathed a huge sigh of relief when it finally closed for good. This disgraceful conduct was also clearly evident in the reporting of the 2010 murder of landscape gardener Joanna Yates in Bristol....


However, the releasing of information to the media in the case against Barry clearly emphasised the practice


WHY then did her and her brother choose to allow EX POLICE OFFICER Mark Williams Thomas (Of all people) access to sensitive case papers and allow him free reign to do with them what he wanted - as it appears to me.



“Propaganda, known today euphemistically as ‘public relations’, is the manufacturing of consent. Propaganda is the act of deliberately spreading false or deceptive information, ideas, rumors, doctrines or principles propagated by an organization or movement to help or harm a target person, group of people, movement, institution, nation, etc. It’s the distortion of information to suit a particular agenda. Along with its ‘proper’ use comes the ability to control the masses and mold the collective mind.
Propaganda is so pervasive in our culture, we have trouble discerning what information is real and what is not. It’s become increasingly difficult to tell the truth from the lies, even with the power of the internet. Time has given these mind manipulators lots of practice to hone their skills. It’s important to realize the magnitude of manipulation that is being perpetrated against mankind.
https://wakeup-world.com/2015/11/16/propaganda-mind-manipulation-and-manufacturing-consent/

“According to The Mirror, George said: “When I was in emergency accommodation in Hackney, I was stood in a long hallway and I had a gun put to my head. “I went to the police station and told them and they gave me lip service. I was living in fear. There were two things in my mind: I’ve been acquitted of this crime and then I get a gun to my head.

There was talk of a Serbian hit team involved in Jill’s killing.

We think it must have been someone who had a link. It’s too much of a coincidence.”

The Met Office police confirmed that George had informed them of the incident at the time it happened, but appeared in a state of shock upon arrival and couldn’t give concrete details about what he had witnessed
.

Criminal report specialist David Wells had joined George to report the crime and told The Mirror: “He was incredibly distressed… sweating, out of breath and in quite a state. I’d seen Barry on many occasions and I had never seen him this distressed. Barry repeated that someone pointed a gun at him and made a threat – he appeared highly credible. He was very afraid. It could well have been someone linked to the murder of Jill Dando.

“It does seem unlikely someone would randomly select Barry out of millions in London and threaten him and put a gun to his head after his acquittal. If indeed it was rated as a serious complaint and investigated by police, nothing came of it.” http://igvofficial.com/case-solved-mark-williams-thomas-reveals-news-about-jill-dandos-killer/
« Last Edit: April 29, 2019, 08:11:54 AM by Nicholas »
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #527 on: April 27, 2019, 08:27:53 PM »
“As a former Detective and with a high profile Mark receives almost daily contact from people asking for help . Sadly Mark is just not able to take on every case, but will take on as many case as he can . He is normally working on 6 or more serious cases at any one time.
Mark has decided alongside his TV investigations to turn some of his these into Podcasts - his fist podcast will be released in 2019.
Recent investigations:
Mark and lawyer David Wells were commissioned by the family of 18 year old Ivana Smit to undertake an investigation into her suspicious death in Kuala Lumpur in 2018.
Mark recently teamed up with Peter Faulding from Specialist Group International using the latest in search technology to re-investigate three unsolved murders : Nicola Payne aged 18 years who was last seen on the 14th December 1991, Sarah Benford aged 14 who was last seen on the 6th April 2000 and lee Boxall aged 15 years who was last seen on the 10th September 1998.
Mark has previously visited Srinagar, Kashmir a number of times to investigate the murder of Sarah Grove. On the 6th April 2013 Sarah viciously attacked in the bedroom of her house boat and stabbed over 40 times by her killer . My investigation uncovered new evidence and got an exclusive interview with the main suspect. This case remains ongoing with very slow progress through the Indian criminal justice system, the main suspect Richard De Wit is still on trial for her murder.
If you think Mark can help you with an unsolved case or a missing person please get in touch.
Mark also runs a Specialists Investigations company - working for private clients and companies on very sensitive investigations. http://www.williams-thomas.co.uk/thismorning

March 2018
“The story had it all: sex, drugs and a stunning teenage model who plunged, naked, 14 floors to her death from the home of an American cryptocurrency tycoon and his glamorous wife in the booming Malaysian capital, Kuala Lumpur. As news of the violent end of Ivana Smit, 18, flashed around the world, it grew in the telling, spawning claims the Dutch citizen had been murdered, and that her killers were being protected by corrupt police.

Adding fuel to the fire was a British former policeman and TV celebrity, Mark Williams-Thomas, who made the 2012 TV documentary which exposed the crimes of Jimmy Savile. Working with UK lawyer David Wells, he travelled to KL and compiled – at a cost of £8,000 – an unofficial report for Ivana’s family. Last week Wells issued a press release, headlined: ‘Model’s fatal fall was no accident, conclude St Albans solicitor and private investigator duo.’ They say they have ‘no doubt’ that in Britain, Ivana’s death would be treated as homicide.

But was it? Absent from every account so far of Ivana’s death on December 7 is a single word from the last people who saw her alive, and from whose 20th floor balcony she plunged: Alex Johnson, 44, and his Kazakh wife, Luna, 31. Last week, they gave their first interview to The Mail on Sunday
.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5565257/Riddle-death-plunge-model.html


“Model's fatal fall was no accident conclude St Albans solicitor and private investigator duo | Wells Burcombe LLP
https://www.wellsburcombe.co.uk › mod...
29 Mar 2018 · St Albans crime lawyer, David Wells has been working with award-winning crime investigator, Mark Williams-Thomas, in Kuala Lumpur to uncover the truth surrounding the death of 18-year-old model ..
.

“Intervener (Barry George)
Ian Glen QC
Gordon Bishop (Instructed by Wells Burcombe)

https://www.supremecourt.uk/cases/docs/uksc-2010-0046-judgment.pdf

https://www.wellsburcombe.co.uk/employees/david-wells/

“Ian Glen had been a puzzle to me. When I had first googled him he had come up as a QC specialising in "serious crime" cases; there seemed no linkage between him and sex cases of any sort - rape or abuse. I was puzzled at why this QC had been selected by Williams-Thomas, but having no reason to dig deeper I just put it down to his being handy and affordable to hire, without there being any reason in particular. When I read todays' professional journalism about the Savile matters, something made me decide to go back and take a closer look at the QC from Exposure. That 'something' was when the Telegraph appeared to climb onto the  bus commisioned by the Mail on Sunday today
 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/jimmy-savile/11172622/Police-launch-fraud-probe-into-claim-for-compensation-by-alleged-victim-of-Jimmy-Savile.html  Finding that Telegraph article led me back to a much older one. It was the article the Telegraph had published when reviewing Exposure - in 2012.
Of course, Savile is now dead, and cannot put his side of the story in response to any of these allegations. But Williams-Thomas’s case against Savile convinced a QC, Ian Glen, that there is enough evidence for Savile to be arrested if he were still alive. Glen’s contribution made the programme feel even more authoritative.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/tv-and-radio-reviews/9585422/Jimmy-Savile-Exposure-ITV1-review.html
I had never thought that deeply about the QC's contribution but Mark Williams-Thomas obviously knew which journalistic buttons needed pressing when he made his TV show.
“Once we had collected the evidence it was important to test it, and for this reason I showed it to a leading barrister, Ian Glen QC. His verdict was the evidence amounted to a pattern of offending that the complainants were speaking about.” http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/reporter-describes-investigation-harrowing-jimmy-2497131
I wondered how the leading barrister felt now that it has become obvious that all of Williams-Thomas' complainants have one by one, been demonstrated to be bogus
http://jimcannotfixthis.blogspot.co.uk/2014/10/root-vegetable.html
 They do say in this blogging game that the secret is to join the dots and see where they lead, so I did. The first time I found Ian Glen was in the Daily Mail of all places! It was just a matter of a few weeks ago! That was just a coincidence obviously. He seemed not very sympatico with his own profession
Ian Glen QC told a legal magazine that "liberal advertising regulations" and "micro specialisation" had encouraged "self-promotion". He said, in an interview with Counsel magazine, that changes had only helped those who "outpace the rest in getting their noses into the trough". And "worst of all", some barristers seemed to believe their own publicity and measured success in money terms, he said. Mr Glen, a barrister for 35 years, said that had led to "exaggerated claims" on the legal aid fund. Interviewers, who compiled a profile of Mr Glen for the latest edition of the magazine, asked what changes he had seen "for the worst". "Worst of all has been the decline of humility," said Mr Glen. "Advocacy is not about the advocate ." Mr Glen - who has been a QC, or "silk", for 18 years - was also asked where he saw himself in five years' time. "Most of us are contemplating doing something completely different without knowing quite what it is," he said. "I have considered the discreet advert 'Disillusioned senior silk with bags of life experience seeks new challenge' but I can't decide where to place it. Any ideas?" http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/pa/article-2722691/Barrister-hits-noses-trough.html
I ventured in my own mind that he might fancy a career as a TV pundit. The next place I found the QC was in the pages of the Telegraph! What a line of dots it was turning out to be! This reference went back a few years though, all the way to 2008 and when I realised the QC wanted to be a DJ, you could have knocked me down with a feather, guys n gals

Once upon a time when a Queen's counsel heard the initials DJ, it would be a signal to swap his silk gown for a dinner jacket. Not any more."I'm going to DJ at Glastonbury," says Ian Glen QC. "I've played at the Grosvenor House hotel before, but never at Glastonbury. I play a mixture of house and reggae."Glen, 56, will be "on the decks" when the nightclub Chinawhite takes over the festival's Left Field Stage. The event will raise money for the Miscarriage of Justice Organisation, of which he is a trustee.The barrister knows the owner of Chinawhite through his licensing work. Although he also represents Spearmint Rhino, thankfully he assures me that he has no plans to perform a pole dance.
However it was that last dot - that last piece of information that really led to me making this Blogpost. As soon as I read Spearmint Rhino, my data antennae were twitching. There was something I remembered. Here it is:
Read more here:
http://jimcannotfixthis.blogspot.com/2014/10/keeping-my-own-counsel.html

https://annaraccoon.com/2013/07/24/the-other-side-of-exposure-the-real-victims-of-the-jimmy-savile-story/
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #528 on: April 27, 2019, 09:08:18 PM »
Troll exposure blog
“Our criminal justice system has been warped, warped by people who should’ve known better. Warped by an agenda, not to get justice for genuine victims but to feed statistics and other artificial needs. It has become from top down one which was perverting the presumption of innocence
The culture is what needs to change. The mentality of making an allegation stick instead of pursuing actual evidence which either proves OR disproves the allegation.
Questions like whether our criminal justice system is really totally broken by corruption and personal agendas.
If such agendas stretch up as far as the former principal legal adviser to the head of the CPS (DPP) then questions about how far such matters have infiltrated our legal system should be asked and answered.
Then add in the exploitation of the media in such… and it becomes a veritable Masterchef recipe for witchhunts.
https://trollexposure.wordpress.com/2019/04/27/tonight-matthew/
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #529 on: April 27, 2019, 09:31:59 PM »

Michelle Diskin Bates book is filled with propaganda and mind manipulative tactics that the naive, gullible and no doubt vulnerable readers will get sucked into, as I once did.

Michelle Diskin Bates 🎀
@Michelle_Diskin
·
8h
I’ll be speaking about miscarriage of justice and the Dando case, and my friend, Trudi Benjamin, will also be here. So come along for the workshops in the morning and the speakers in the afternoon. Join us for a cuppa and a natter in the breaks
🤗

The “Dando case” not the Barry George case?!  *&^^& 

Another slip up maybe or her true colours and contempt shining through? Who is the unworthy one beneath consideration?

My opinions. My observations.


Hannah
@hannahjames40
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23h
I was having a discussion with my son earlier (he mentioned handing in his homework on Religious Studies).
We discussed how religion is important when it encourages good family values, structures and general decency.

Who would oppose that?
1

Michelle Diskin Bates 🎀
@Michelle_Diskin
·
23h
That’s probably morality. Not a bad thing of course 🤗
1
1

Hannah
@hannahjames40
Replying to
@Michelle_Diskin
Agreed.
Some of the scientific and moralistic views in scripture are a force for good.
10:57 PM · Apr 26, 2019 · Twitter for Android



 *&^^&
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #530 on: April 27, 2019, 10:02:13 PM »

Hannah
@hannahjames40
·
23h
I was having a discussion with my son earlier (he mentioned handing in his homework on Religious Studies).
We discussed how religion is important when it encourages good family values, structures and general decency.

Who would oppose that?
1

Michelle Diskin Bates 🎀
@Michelle_Diskin
·
23h
That’s probably morality. Not a bad thing of course 🤗
1
1

Hannah
@hannahjames40
Replying to
@Michelle_Diskin
Agreed.
Some of the scientific and moralistic views in scripture are a force for good.
10:57 PM · Apr 26, 2019 · Twitter for Android



 *&^^&


Michelle Diskin Bates 🎀
@Michelle_Diskin
Replying to
@HelgaSpeck
Police denied it was a hit because no one claimed it. Well someone did...3 times, the first just three hours after she was killed. I knew of the second two, programme found the all important first in Barry’s evidence boxes! More than credible now...covered up?
Very likely
😡


What complete and utter BS!
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #531 on: April 28, 2019, 12:19:28 AM »
“As a former Detective and with a high profile Mark receives almost daily contact from people asking for help . Sadly Mark is just not able to take on every case, but will take on as many case as he can . He is normally working on 6 or more serious cases at any one time.
Mark has decided alongside his TV investigations to turn some of his these into Podcasts - his fist podcast will be released in 2019.
Recent investigations:
Mark and lawyer David Wells were commissioned by the family of 18 year old Ivana Smit to undertake an investigation into her suspicious death in Kuala Lumpur in 2018.
Mark recently teamed up with Peter Faulding from Specialist Group International using the latest in search technology to re-investigate three unsolved murders : Nicola Payne aged 18 years who was last seen on the 14th December 1991, Sarah Benford aged 14 who was last seen on the 6th April 2000 and lee Boxall aged 15 years who was last seen on the 10th September 1998.
Mark has previously visited Srinagar, Kashmir a number of times to investigate the murder of Sarah Grove. On the 6th April 2013 Sarah viciously attacked in the bedroom of her house boat and stabbed over 40 times by her killer . My investigation uncovered new evidence and got an exclusive interview with the main suspect. This case remains ongoing with very slow progress through the Indian criminal justice system, the main suspect Richard De Wit is still on trial for her murder.
If you think Mark can help you with an unsolved case or a missing person please get in touch.
Mark also runs a Specialists Investigations company - working for private clients and companies on very sensitive investigations. http://www.williams-thomas.co.uk/thismorning

March 2018
“The story had it all: sex, drugs and a stunning teenage model who plunged, naked, 14 floors to her death from the home of an American cryptocurrency tycoon and his glamorous wife in the booming Malaysian capital, Kuala Lumpur. As news of the violent end of Ivana Smit, 18, flashed around the world, it grew in the telling, spawning claims the Dutch citizen had been murdered, and that her killers were being protected by corrupt police.

Adding fuel to the fire was a British former policeman and TV celebrity, Mark Williams-Thomas, who made the 2012 TV documentary which exposed the crimes of Jimmy Savile. Working with UK lawyer David Wells, he travelled to KL and compiled – at a cost of £8,000 – an unofficial report for Ivana’s family. Last week Wells issued a press release, headlined: ‘Model’s fatal fall was no accident, conclude St Albans solicitor and private investigator duo.’ They say they have ‘no doubt’ that in Britain, Ivana’s death would be treated as homicide.

But was it? Absent from every account so far of Ivana’s death on December 7 is a single word from the last people who saw her alive, and from whose 20th floor balcony she plunged: Alex Johnson, 44, and his Kazakh wife, Luna, 31. Last week, they gave their first interview to The Mail on Sunday
.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5565257/Riddle-death-plunge-model.html


“Model's fatal fall was no accident conclude St Albans solicitor and private investigator duo | Wells Burcombe LLP
https://www.wellsburcombe.co.uk › mod...
29 Mar 2018 · St Albans crime lawyer, David Wells has been working with award-winning crime investigator, Mark Williams-Thomas, in Kuala Lumpur to uncover the truth surrounding the death of 18-year-old model ...

“Miscarriages of Justice/Wrongful Convictions
Overturning a conviction is not easy, but it can be achieved.
The team at ‘Specialist Investigations’ have reviewed some of the countries most high profile criminal convictions, such as the tragic case of Barry George, the so called ‘Essex Boys’ murders (a case which is now before the criminal cases review commission requesting a fresh appeal), and the case of a British Dentist which is currently under extensive review and is considered a genuine miscarriage of Justice
https://specialistinvestigations.com/services/

So do they not consider the other two to be “genuine?”
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #532 on: April 28, 2019, 01:30:57 AM »
“Ian Glen had been a puzzle to me. When I had first googled him he had come up as a QC specialising in "serious crime" cases; there seemed no linkage between him and sex cases of any sort - rape or abuse. I was puzzled at why this QC had been selected by Williams-Thomas, but having no reason to dig deeper I just put it down to his being handy and affordable to hire, without there being any reason in particular. When I read todays' professional journalism about the Savile matters, something made me decide to go back and take a closer look at the QC from Exposure. That 'something' was when the Telegraph appeared to climb onto the  bus commisioned by the Mail on Sunday today
 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/jimmy-savile/11172622/Police-launch-fraud-probe-into-claim-for-compensation-by-alleged-victim-of-Jimmy-Savile.html  Finding that Telegraph article led me back to a much older one. It was the article the Telegraph had published when reviewing Exposure - in 2012.
Of course, Savile is now dead, and cannot put his side of the story in response to any of these allegations. But Williams-Thomas’s case against Savile convinced a QC, Ian Glen, that there is enough evidence for Savile to be arrested if he were still alive. Glen’s contribution made the programme feel even more authoritative.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/tv-and-radio-reviews/9585422/Jimmy-Savile-Exposure-ITV1-review.html
I had never thought that deeply about the QC's contribution but Mark Williams-Thomas obviously knew which journalistic buttons needed pressing when he made his TV show.
“Once we had collected the evidence it was important to test it, and for this reason I showed it to a leading barrister, Ian Glen QC. His verdict was the evidence amounted to a pattern of offending that the complainants were speaking about.” http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/reporter-describes-investigation-harrowing-jimmy-2497131
I wondered how the leading barrister felt now that it has become obvious that all of Williams-Thomas' complainants have one by one, been demonstrated to be bogus
http://jimcannotfixthis.blogspot.co.uk/2014/10/root-vegetable.html
 They do say in this blogging game that the secret is to join the dots and see where they lead, so I did. The first time I found Ian Glen was in the Daily Mail of all places! It was just a matter of a few weeks ago! That was just a coincidence obviously. He seemed not very sympatico with his own profession
Ian Glen QC told a legal magazine that "liberal advertising regulations" and "micro specialisation" had encouraged "self-promotion". He said, in an interview with Counsel magazine, that changes had only helped those who "outpace the rest in getting their noses into the trough". And "worst of all", some barristers seemed to believe their own publicity and measured success in money terms, he said. Mr Glen, a barrister for 35 years, said that had led to "exaggerated claims" on the legal aid fund. Interviewers, who compiled a profile of Mr Glen for the latest edition of the magazine, asked what changes he had seen "for the worst". "Worst of all has been the decline of humility," said Mr Glen. "Advocacy is not about the advocate ." Mr Glen - who has been a QC, or "silk", for 18 years - was also asked where he saw himself in five years' time. "Most of us are contemplating doing something completely different without knowing quite what it is," he said. "I have considered the discreet advert 'Disillusioned senior silk with bags of life experience seeks new challenge' but I can't decide where to place it. Any ideas?" http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/pa/article-2722691/Barrister-hits-noses-trough.html
I ventured in my own mind that he might fancy a career as a TV pundit. The next place I found the QC was in the pages of the Telegraph! What a line of dots it was turning out to be! This reference went back a few years though, all the way to 2008 and when I realised the QC wanted to be a DJ, you could have knocked me down with a feather, guys n gals

Once upon a time when a Queen's counsel heard the initials DJ, it would be a signal to swap his silk gown for a dinner jacket. Not any more."I'm going to DJ at Glastonbury," says Ian Glen QC. "I've played at the Grosvenor House hotel before, but never at Glastonbury. I play a mixture of house and reggae."Glen, 56, will be "on the decks" when the nightclub Chinawhite takes over the festival's Left Field Stage. The event will raise money for the Miscarriage of Justice Organisation, of which he is a trustee.The barrister knows the owner of Chinawhite through his licensing work. Although he also represents Spearmint Rhino, thankfully he assures me that he has no plans to perform a pole dance.
However it was that last dot - that last piece of information that really led to me making this Blogpost. As soon as I read Spearmint Rhino, my data antennae were twitching. There was something I remembered. Here it is:
Read more here:
http://jimcannotfixthis.blogspot.com/2014/10/keeping-my-own-counsel.html

QC DJ on the decks at Glastonbury - Mar 2008
“Once upon a time when a Queen's counsel heard the initials DJ, it would be a signal to swap his silk gown for a dinner jacket. Not any more.
"I'm going to DJ at Glastonbury," says Ian Glen QC. "I've played at the Grosvenor House hotel before, but never at Glastonbury. I play a mixture of house and reggae."
Glen, 56, will be "on the decks" when the nightclub Chinawhite takes over the festival's Left Field Stage. The event will raise money for the Miscarriage of Justice Organisation, of which he is a trustee.
The barrister knows the owner of Chinawhite through his licensing work. Although he also represents Spearmint Rhino, thankfully he assures me that he has no plans to perform a pole dance.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/1582598/QC-DJ-on-the-decks-at-Glastonbury.html

October 2012
“Barry George today launched a test case bid to overturn a ''defective'' decision denying him compensation after he wrongly imprisoned for the murder of Jill Dando.
Mr George, 52, who was cleared after a retrial in 2008, is seeking a High Court ruling that could open the way for him to claim an award of up to £500,000.
His case is one of five test cases assembled for senior judges to decide who is now entitled to payments in ''miscarriages of justice'' cases following a landmark decision by the Supreme Court in May 2011.
Mr George's claim for damages for lost earnings and wrongful imprisonment was rejected by the Ministry of Justice on the grounds that he was not legally entitled to compensation.
That decision is being defended by Justice Secretary Chris Grayling in a three-day hearing at London's High Court.
Ian Glen QC, appearing for Mr George, is asking Mr Justice Beatson and Mr Justice Irwin to rule the decision to deny compensation ''defective and contrary to natural justice'' and a breach of the right to a fair trial under Article 6 of the European Convention on Human Rights.
The proceedings follow the Supreme Court's redefinition of the legal meaning of what constitutes a ''miscarriage of justice'' after debating when compensation should be paid to people wrongly convicted of crime.
Miss Dando was shot dead outside her home in Fulham in April 1999.
After his conviction in 2001, Mr George, of Fulham, west London, was acquitted of killing the 37-year-old BBC presenter at the 2008 retrial.
The case was referred to by one of the panel of nine Supreme Court justices who gave the landmark miscarriage of justice ruling.
Lord Hope described how a particle of ''firearms discharge'' matching particles found in the cartridge case of the bullet which killed Miss Dando, had been found in a pocket of a coat worn by Mr George.
Evidence about the ''firearms discharge'' particle and its significance were called into question following a review and Mr George's conviction was quashed by the Court of Appeal in 2007 and the retrial ordered.
When found not guilty in 2008, the Crown Prosecution Service said he ''had the right to be regarded as innocent''.
In the Supreme Court ruling, the then president Lord Phillips said that the ''mere quashing'' of a conviction could not be a ''trigger for compensation''.
He said a ''miscarriage of justice'' occurred when a new fact ''so undermined'' prosecution evidence that no conviction could ''possibly be based upon it''.
He said the new ''test'' would not guarantee that all those entitled to compensation were ''in fact innocent''.
But it would ensure that when innocent defendants were convicted on discredited evidence they were not ''precluded'' from obtaining compensation because they could not prove their innocence beyond reasonable doubt.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/9614673/Barry-George-battles-over-compensation-for-Jill-Dando-conviction.html
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Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #533 on: April 28, 2019, 08:31:25 AM »
Whilst Barry George's "odd" behaviour may not make him a murderer, doubts still remain.

Investigative journalist Mark Williams Thomas looked again at the the case and presented his findings which appeared to point away from George. But how do any of us know whether he had been influenced in any way by his bias?

Barry George is not innocent enough for compensation!

High Court judges ruled “There was indeed a case upon which a reasonable jury, properly directed, could have convicted the claimant of murder."

To what evidence were the judges referring?

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Ian Glen QC passed away in 2016

The only mention of this fact in Michelle Diskin Bates book is in brackets stating “now sadly deceased”

No mention of her and Barry George attending his funeral, like their is of Gerry Conlon? However he is referred to as a friend?

All the mention he gets is “now sadly deceased?”

“East Anglian Chambers regrets to announce the death yesterday of door tenant Ian Glen QC. Aged 65, he had been suffering from cancer. https://www.ealaw.co.uk/ian-glen-qc/

According to Michelle Diskin Bates, Barry George was stopped and searched in London one day whilst meeting up with Ian Glen QC. Apparently her brother wasn’t doing anything when he was stopped and wasn’t behaving in a worrying or threatening way and the police left when Barry pointed Ian out to them.

Do you think the police recognised Ian Glen QC? Do you think the police recognised Barry George?
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Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #534 on: April 28, 2019, 08:51:30 AM »
Ian Glen QC passed away in 2016

The only mention of this fact in Michelle Diskin Bates book is in brackets stating “now sadly deceased”

No mention of her and Barry George attending his funeral, like their is of Gerry Conlon? However he is referred to as a friend?

All the mention he gets is “now sadly deceased?”

“East Anglian Chambers regrets to announce the death yesterday of door tenant Ian Glen QC. Aged 65, he had been suffering from cancer. https://www.ealaw.co.uk/ian-glen-qc/

According to Michelle Diskin Bates, Barry George was stopped and searched in London one day whilst meeting up with Ian Glen QC. Apparently her brother wasn’t doing anything when he was stopped and wasn’t behaving in a worrying or threatening way and the police left when Barry pointed Ian out to them.

Do you think the police recognised Ian Glen QC? Do you think the police recognised Barry George?

Also according to Michelle Diskin Bates, Ian Glen QC coined the phrase “not innocent enough!” It’s all there in black and white in her book.

My brother, who was wrongly convicted of the murder of TV presenter, Jill Dando, has never been awarded any compensation for the years he spent incarcerated for this killing. His conviction was quashed in 2007, and he was then released in 2008, when the jury at his second trial unanimously found him not guilty. Since then, we have tried every avenue we could think of to get this government to correct the wrong, and to make recompense for all that he has lost.’
Michelle Bates

http://www.thejusticegap.com/2015/12/2015-a-year-in-the-justice-gap/

Maybe it's finally time for Michelle Bates to be transparent in order to convince those of us who believe him to not be innocent enough.

And maybe she would be open and honest enough to publicise the total sum of money her brother accrued since his conviction was over turned?

All I'm witnessing is greed; which has nothing to do with truth or justice.
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #535 on: April 28, 2019, 09:08:58 AM »
Also according to Michelle Diskin Bates, Ian Glen QC coined the phrase “not innocent enough!” It’s all there in black and white in her book.

Do you think she is mistaken?

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/barry-george-not-innocent-enough-for-compensation-after-jill-dando-murder-conviction-29022810.html

According to this article the traits of conceited individuals, are arrogance, narcissism and megalomania.
https://exploringyourmind.com/conceited-people-traits-and-behaviors/

From my observations of Michelle Diskin Bates she has all three!

Again, my observations, my opinions.

I witnessed Michelle Diskin Bates uncontrollable arrogance in her recent TV interviews, I’ve witnessed it as far back as 2010!

And it features heavenly in her book.

“Conceited people with megalomaniac tendencies think that they’re very socially important. They consider themselves capable of performing great deeds and holders of enormous wealth. However, these beliefs are both irrational and overestimated
“Their lack of modesty and humility makes these individuals believe they’re always right simply because they’re them. Thus, they often use positions of false power or authority to defend and impose their perspective onto others.


It part of the reason some people have been unable to see through the facade.
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Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #536 on: April 28, 2019, 09:31:06 AM »
Team Barry 2008 by Mike Bourke, Uncle of Barry George - taken from “Mike’s Story the battle to clear Barry George of the Jill Dando murder https://www.amazon.co.uk/Mikes-Story-Battle-George-murder/dp/1907163441

“To make things even better a ‘spokesman’ for him allegedly confirmed some of those manufactured stories. Pat Reynolds said to me one day: ‘with friends like those who needs enemies?’ It was a little sad to see the end results of the long hard battle and one day a despairing Margaret said to me that it was now worse than when he was in prison. In an October 10 feature in the Daily Mail David Jones summed up the whole sorry state of affairs. He described how Jill’s grave had been a haven of peace for Jack Dando, aged 90, and her brother Nigel, but that now Barry was planning to visit it. Singh Clair, described as Barry’s spokesman confirmed that. Nigel Dando said that he would not object to the visit: ‘It might give Mr George cause to ponder and reflect’, he said. The article described how others in ‘Team Barry’ included his sister, his mother, friend Robert Charig, and Sion Jenkins was described as a fringe member. Then there was the body charged with monitoring Barry and smoothing his path back into society under a Multi Agency Public Protection Agreement. (MAPPA)

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=ltgorwROQfwC&pg=PA212&lpg=PA212&dq=Then+there+was+the+body+charged+with+monitoring+Barry+and+smoothing+his+path+back+into+society+under+a+Multi+Agency+Public+Protection+Agreement&source=bl&ots=Osy89OF-cJ&sig=ACfU3U0zgkLRZxktkcCyj-B_-VTf-1st0Q&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjP_uOK-dvhAhWssKQKHT4IBzYQ6AEwAHoECAoQAQ#v=onepage&q=Then%20there%20was%20the%20body%20charged%20with%20monitoring%20Barry%20and%20smoothing%20his%20path%20back%20into%20society%20under%20a%20Multi%20Agency%20Public%20Protection%20Agreement&f=false

So it would appear, at least since the time the book Stand Against Injustice was published last year, Barry George is still being monitored under MAPPA.

According to his sister, he took a case against this decision but lost, having to pay all the costs himself.
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #537 on: April 28, 2019, 09:55:51 AM »
So it would appear, at least since the time the book Stand Against Injustice was published last year, Barry George is still being monitored under MAPPA.

According to his sister, he took a case against this decision but lost, having to pay all the costs himself.

Barry George was initially assessed as showing signs of “histrionics, paranoia and narcissism, and had a personality disorder.

“George's lawyers also brought in evidence from a neuropsychiatrist to dispute prosecution suggestions that he showed signs of "histrionics, paranoia and narcissism" and had a personality disorder.
Prof Michael Kopelman implied that George could not have been as calculating as alleged. "[He] described to me that he can be aware of what's going on around him but just can't respond," the professor said.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2008/aug/01/jilldando.ukcrime2

Much of the assessments carried out on Barry George would have meant relying on what he chose to tell those who were assessing him at the time. It was then up to them to form an opinion.

The FACT Barry George is still under MAPPA suggests all is not as it seems with regards his dangerousness to himself, others and the public.
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #538 on: April 28, 2019, 10:13:49 AM »
Do you think she is mistaken?

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/barry-george-not-innocent-enough-for-compensation-after-jill-dando-murder-conviction-29022810.html

According to this article the traits of conceited individuals, are arrogance, narcissism and megalomania.
https://exploringyourmind.com/conceited-people-traits-and-behaviors/

From my observations of Michelle Diskin Bates she has all three!

Again, my observations, my opinions.

I witnessed Michelle Diskin Bates uncontrollable arrogance in her recent TV interviews, I’ve witnessed it as far back as 2010!

And it features heavenly in her book.

“Conceited people with megalomaniac tendencies think that they’re very socially important. They consider themselves capable of performing great deeds and holders of enormous wealth. However, these beliefs are both irrational and overestimated
“Their lack of modesty and humility makes these individuals believe they’re always right simply because they’re them. Thus, they often use positions of false power or authority to defend and impose their perspective onto others.


It part of the reason some people have been unable to see through the facade.

Michelle Diskin Bates claimed in 2018:
“If Barry had been a dangerous offender recently released, I would have been right behind this monitoring of his movements by the police. Indeed, I would have never fought for his freedom from the sentence in the first place. If you do the crime, you must do the time.

WHAT, if anything, did she learn following the confession of Simon Hall?

Based on my opinions and observations and her lack of insight I question her judgement regarding her brother, his arrest, conviction and all that followed. Supported by the fact she was estranged from him some 12 years leading up to the murder.

WHAT were the reasons for the estrangement?

It’s clear, not only from reading what her uncle says but from information on the World Wide Web that Michelle Diskin Bates has made poor decisions. Her attempts at covering them up are see through, which again leaves me questioning her credibility and integrity.

Her grandiose sense of self, as I see it, is also of concern.

My opinions my observations.

Michelle Diskin-Bates will address this year’s conference, copies of her book Stand Against Injustice will be available.
Michelle is a woman of integrity and dignity and we are honoured to have her as a patron of United Against Injustice.
On April 26, 1999, BBC TV presenter Jill Dando was murdered outside her home in London. Barry George was convicted and imprisoned for the murder but was later acquitted after an appeal and retrial. Stand Against Injustice is the powerful memoir of the sister of Barry George. For the first time, Michelle Diskin tells her story, the human side and truth behind one of recent history's most high profile and damaging miscarriages of justice whose life is inextricably interwoven in the drama, the trauma, the conspiracy and the fight for justice. A self-confessed "ordinary housewife," Michelle’s voice weaves the personal everyday struggles that bring depth, colour, and passion into what is an extraordinary account
. https://www.unitedagainstinjustice.com/patrons
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Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #539 on: April 28, 2019, 11:08:35 AM »
Michelle Diskin-Bates will address this year’s conference, copies of her book Stand Against Injustice will be available.
Michelle is a woman of integrity and dignity and we are honoured to have her as a patron of United Against Injustice.
On April 26, 1999, BBC TV presenter Jill Dando was murdered outside her home in London. Barry George was convicted and imprisoned for the murder but was later acquitted after an appeal and retrial. Stand Against Injustice is the powerful memoir of the sister of Barry George. For the first time, Michelle Diskin tells her story, the human side and truth behind one of recent history's most high profile and damaging miscarriages of justice whose life is inextricably interwoven in the drama, the trauma, the conspiracy and the fight for justice. A self-confessed "ordinary housewife," Michelle’s voice weaves the personal everyday struggles that bring depth, colour, and passion into what is an extraordinary account
. https://www.unitedagainstinjustice.com/patrons

WHY does it still appear some people refuse to question her credibility and integrity?

Maybe if they did they would recognise what is hidden in plain sight, as the police, family and others clearly have.

“Reality is the state of being real or actual, whereas an illusion is a mental misinterpretation of what is believed to be true. Illusions often prevent people from perceiving reality and objective truths, which consequently results in delusions, and in some cases, tragedies.
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