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Offline Eleanor

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #4440 on: June 14, 2019, 12:39:02 PM »
Eddie was definitely a well trained dog.

What?  Eddie was manic most of the time.

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #4441 on: June 14, 2019, 12:41:58 PM »
Not if the person reporting the child missing knows where the child is I'm afraid.
That makes it tricky.
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Offline Eleanor

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #4442 on: June 14, 2019, 12:45:33 PM »
That makes it tricky.

A bit more than tricky.  You have to prove it.

Offline barrier

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #4443 on: June 14, 2019, 12:51:23 PM »
What?  Eddie was manic most of the time.

How would you expect him to react,somewhere along the lines of Freud's, Henry all docile and uninteresting?

https://youtu.be/W7n0uwxpEnI
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #4444 on: June 14, 2019, 12:56:16 PM »
Eddie was definitely a well trained dog.

No one is denying Eddie was a well trained dog... But grime never said Eddie did not make a false alert in 200 case searches.. It would be impossible fir Grime to make such a statement unless every alert resulted in finding human remains.   .....blood.. Teeth... Etc

Offline Eleanor

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #4445 on: June 14, 2019, 12:57:57 PM »
How would you expect him to react,somewhere along the lines of Freud's, Henry all docile and uninteresting?

https://youtu.be/W7n0uwxpEnI

I didn't expect Eddie to throw evidence in the air.  That wasn't very well trained.

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #4446 on: June 14, 2019, 01:05:24 PM »
What?  Eddie was manic most of the time.
He was allowed to run free.  Is freedom and maniac related?
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #4447 on: June 14, 2019, 01:09:08 PM »
No one is denying Eddie was a well trained dog... But grime never said Eddie did not make a false alert in 200 case searches.. It would be impossible fir Grime to make such a statement unless every alert resulted in finding human remains.   .....blood.. Teeth... Etc
There are false positives and false negatives, Cheeky Monkey is quoting false positives due to certain causes.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #4448 on: June 14, 2019, 01:16:23 PM »
There are false positives and false negatives, Cheeky Monkey is quoting false positives due to certain causes.

Monkey is making a false claim... Grime never said Eddie had no false positives in 200 case searches... As I recall monkey went further and claimed Eddie had never been wrong in 200 case, searches

Offline Carana

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #4449 on: June 14, 2019, 01:19:30 PM »
Is there a cite for cadaver dogs alerting in the Mathews case,I've only found specialist dogs failing to find a trace.


March 2008 :Police searching for missing nine-year-old schoolgirl Shannon Matthews said today that more than 500 homes lining her route to school have been searched using specialist sniffer dogs.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2008/mar/04/ukcrime2

Update DEC 2008.

March 4: One-tenth of Yorkshire police are now deployed in the hunt for Shannon - the biggest such operation since the search for the Yorkshire Ripper. Sniffer dogs trained to find human remains search more than 500 houses.


https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2008/mar/14/2

Victim recovery dogs from four different police forces were used during searches for kidnapped schoolgirl Shannon Matthews in Dewsbury in West Yorkshire in 2008.

The dogs found evidence of dead bodies, but officers later discovered the corpses were nothing to do with her disappearance.

"The properties searched contained a high level of second-hand furniture bought from dwellings where someone had died," according to the NPIA report.

"This resulted in numerous indications that required further investigation to confirm whether they were connected to the investigation, or to previous owners of the furniture."

https://news.sky.com/story/sniffer-dogs-can-hinder-police-work-10488976

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #4450 on: June 14, 2019, 01:20:34 PM »
Like say, after being abducted, a cadaver dog that had never falsely alerted in more than 200 criminal case searches comes along and alerts on 12 separate occasions? All factors that DID occur.

So where is the evidence that Eddie never falsely alerted in 200 case searches

Offline Eleanor

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #4451 on: June 14, 2019, 01:22:12 PM »
He was allowed to run free.  Is freedom and maniac related?

How would you describe throwing evidence in the air?

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #4452 on: June 14, 2019, 01:24:03 PM »
Monkey is making a false claim... Grime never said Eddie had no false positives in 200 case searches... As I recall monkey went further and claimed Eddie had never been wrong in 200 case, searches
He gave the full quote several times. 
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #4453 on: June 14, 2019, 01:26:46 PM »
How would you describe throwing evidence in the air?
He picked up some of the clothing as well.  Maybe that was something that helped Eddie determine whether to alert or not.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #4454 on: June 14, 2019, 01:29:36 PM »
He gave the full quote several times.

The quote does not support the statement that Eddie did not give a false alert in 200 case searches..