The Leonor Cipriano case reviewed... AGAIN!

[sadie]

You would think after confessing to Joana's murder - that would be game over -  and they would then automatically say what they did with the body and what they did with the murder weapons.    After all there would be no benefit or reason to hide that information once they'd confessed.  Surely it would have been in their own best interests to co-operate fully.        And yet no trace of a body or murder weapons has ever been found.

Common sense dictates that even though a confession can be extracted from an innocent person,  there is no way an innocent person can say where the body or the murder weapons ended up if they didn't commit the crime in the first place.   

'Fed to the  pigs' was the PJ theory to get round that rather large problem IMO.   As far as I know there has never been a credible explanation as to what happened to the murder weapons and why LC or her brother could not say what they did with them.

IMO the only credible reason is that they couldn't say where -  because they didn't murder Joana.   

 

Well reasoned and presented, Benice

[Lyall]

Don't bother, Sadie

[sadie]

Sadie

You look at a few snapshots and dictate that this murdered child had a  'caring family and a lovely life' 

Let's look at that 'caring family'  shall we  ?  ...  and realisticly  judge how  'lovely'  that child's short life will have been

The mother dumped how many of her   kids  ?   (  onto the various men who fathered them  )  ...  never to see them again 

The uncle,  who was put in prison for leaving a man blind  ...  have failed to murder him for money  ?

This  'caring'  family  who,  for some God forsaken reason,   you defend,  are s..m

That poor little girl,  who you insist is,   'almost certainly'  alive,  lived a sad life at the mercy of sadists who eventually ended her short life in a savage way

By the way, you also insisted that the man Jane Tanner saw was  'almost certainly'  the abductor too,  didn't you  ..  over and over again

Your judgment is horribly skewed

We will see, Icabod   

Hopefully time will tell

[sadie]

The Murder at the Vicarage is starting in a minute. I'd limit your amateur sleuthing to TV drama.

Oh, you had better watch it then,    Maybe you will learn something?




Another lovely photograph of a beautifully presented Joana with which to wish you good night.

http://www.mccannfiles.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/joanacipriano101.jpg



Joana at school.  Beautifully presented and slim but not at all underweight imo.

[John]

Enough of the patronising sanctimonious twaddle for one night guys.  I think quite a few have put a toe or two over the line of acceptable posting tonight.

[stephen25000]

We will see, Icabod   

Hopefully time will tell

Your judgement on the Cipriano case is is tempered by your adoration of all things Mccann.

If it had not been Amaral involved in the case, this case would have not got a look in.

[Mr Gray]

In March, the Court of Appeal of Evora confirmed an earlier ruling that Leonor Cipriano had been tortured while in police custody in 2004, but that it could not identify those responsible. Leonor Cipriano had yet to receive compensation from the state. Gonçalo de Sousa Amaral and António Fernandes Nuno Cardoso, senior officials in the judicial police, had been sentenced to 18 months’ and 27 months’ imprisonment respectively, for falsely claiming Leonor Cipriano had fallen down the stairs. However, both sentences were suspended on the grounds that the officers had no previous criminal convictions.


 The above is from the amnesty int website

[Mr Gray]

Your judgement on the Cipriano case is is tempered by your adoration of all things Mccann.

If it had not been Amaral involved in the case, this case would have not got a look in.

 of course you have absolutely no proof of that Stephen...just spouting off your opinions as facts once again

[stephen25000]

of course you have absolutely no proof of that Stephen...just spouting off your opinions as facts once again

You know the old saying,

If it walks like a duck,quacks like a duck.......................

Meanwhile would you care to remind us what happened to Cipriano in her most recent hearing in court ?

[Mr Gray]

You know the old saying,

If it walks like a duck,quacks like a duck.......................

Meanwhile would you care to remind us what happened to Cipriano in her most recent hearing in court ?

she may well be the victim of corrupt police officers,,Montclair has said he has not known anyone win an appeal in 37 yrs

[stephen25000]

she may well be the victim of corrupt police officers,,Montclair has said he has not known anyone win an appeal in 37 yrs

That is what you want to believe, but it doesn't make it true, does it ?

[Mr Gray]

That is what you want to believe, but it doesn't make it true, does it ?

if it walks like a duck Stephen...

[Mr Gray]

That is what you want to believe, but it doesn't make it true, does it ?

its also whats on the amnesty website

[stephen25000]

its also whats on the amnesty website

What happened to Cipriano in her most recent court hearing ?

[Mr Gray]

What happened to Cipriano in her most recent court hearing ?

see my previous posts and you will keep going round in circles all day

 I strongly believe Leonor was the victim of a miscarriage of justice...both of them confessed...when did you last hear of a confession being used as evidence in a uk court