The Leonor Cipriano case reviewed... AGAIN!

[stephen25000]

of course you don't condone torture Stephen...what you do is...pretend it didn't happen

Pathetic reply.

What you want is for everyone to agree  'Cipriano was tortured', merely to feed your hatred/dislike of Amaral and the PJ.

However, you require absolute proof for that, and not the word of a liar .

[Mr Gray]

Pathetic reply.

What you want is for everyone to agree  'Cipriano was tortured', merely to feed your hatred/dislike of Amaral and the PJ.

However, you require absolute proof for that, and not the word of a liar .

 No capitals..thats better..have you heard of Amnesty Intrnational

[stephen25000]

No capitals..thats better..have you heard of Amnesty Intrnational

Of course I have.

So have Amnesty taken the word of a liar as truth ?

[Mr Gray]

Amnesty International are an organisation that campaign against torture and they have been following the Cipriano case for some years

[Mr Gray]

Of course I have.

So have Amnesty taken the word of a liar as truth ?

 no they have taken the word of the Portuguese court

[stephen25000]

no they have taken the word of the Portuguese court

Then there should have been an independent investigation of the so called torture.

[Mr Gray]

Then there should have been an independent investigation of the so called torture.

 is the Portuguese court not independent

[DCI]

A freezer, not a fridge, yes, chest type.

Really?

How do you open drawers in a chest type freezer?

[DCI]

Police officer made arguido in the process of assaults against Leonor Cipriano, 04 May 2007

Expresso

An official of the PJ of Portimão is the seventh police officer to be implicated in the process of alleged assaults on the mother of Joana.

18:00 Friday, May 4, 2007

Gonçalo Amaral, coordinator of the Judicial Police in Portimao has been made an arguido in the process investigating the alleged assaults on Leonor Cipriano, which occurred in October 2004. The woman complained of having been beaten by punches, kicks and with a cardboard tube during "informal inquiries" that ocurred without the presence of a defense counsel and without the knowledge of the Public Prosecutor who investigated the disappearance of the child, the eight-year-old daughter of Leonor.

Goncalo Amaral was then coordinator of the PJ in Faro and this is why he has been made an arguido. Six inspectors of the Central Directorate for Combating Gangsterism are also arguidos and have already been acknowledged. Four were not recognized by the complainant, who identified the other two but exonerated them of any assault. Leonor Cipriano was sentenced to 16 years in prison for the murder, co-authored with her brother, of Joana. The child's body was never found.

[stephen25000]

Police officer made arguido in the process of assaults against Leonor Cipriano, 04 May 2007

Expresso

An official of the PJ of Portimão is the seventh police officer to be implicated in the process of alleged assaults on the mother of Joana.

18:00 Friday, May 4, 2007

Gonçalo Amaral, coordinator of the Judicial Police in Portimao has been made an arguido in the process investigating the alleged assaults on Leonor Cipriano, which occurred in October 2004. The woman complained of having been beaten by punches, kicks and with a cardboard tube during "informal inquiries" that ocurred without the presence of a defense counsel and without the knowledge of the Public Prosecutor who investigated the disappearance of the child, the eight-year-old daughter of Leonor.

Goncalo Amaral was then coordinator of the PJ in Faro and this is why he has been made an arguido. Six inspectors of the Central Directorate for Combating Gangsterism are also arguidos and have already been acknowledged. Four were not recognized by the complainant, who identified the other two but exonerated them of any assault. Leonor Cipriano was sentenced to 16 years in prison for the murder, co-authored with her brother, of Joana. The child's body was never found.

Ah yes,

Leonor the Liar.

[DCI]

Ah yes,

Leonor the Liar.

Not Amaral though? 

[stephen25000]

Not Amaral though? 

You really love him, don't you.

[Mr Gray]

Stephen...as I have said many times ...get your basic facts right,..you don't   and that's why all your conclusions are rubbish

[Montclair]

OK Stephen so what is the source of these 2009 comments...and

what were the results of the investigations

The "comments" came from the news agency Agência Lusa and the results of the investigation was 7 months added to Leonor's time in prison.

[Mr Gray]

The "comments" came from the news agency Agência Lusa and the results of the investigation was 7 months added to Leonor's time in prison.

 and were there any changes to the determination of torture by the pj?...NO